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    Taoist View on Vegetarianism

    Ultra Supreme Emptiness Emperor the Heavenly Lord's Scripture of Forty-nine Chapters ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0018 ) says:

    The Heavenly Lord said:

    The precept of being vegetarian is the fundamental of Tao, and is a bridge of truth, which crosses the ocean of births and deaths, between the ferry and the other shore of liberation.

    If you wish to learn Tao, you should be a vegetarian and keep the precepts, and your every single thought should be righteous and Real, then the evils and delusions will vanish of themselves.

    Most living beings had abandoned the pure realm and are indulging in meat-eating, this defiles both their bodies and minds. They are like the hungry ghosts who eat dead bodies but cannot extinguish the fire that are burning their hungry intestines so that they can never eat their fill; they are also like the flies and worms who scramble for putrid and stinky things and stay still on them as if those are sandalwood.

    In a meat eater's body, the three palaces are turbid, and the six viscera are defiled, the dark souls (PUG) of the dead bodies (that he ate) are exciting and thriving, and are always willing to guide him to the place of death.

    Therefore, you should cut off the root of desires, enter into the pure and tranquil state, do not put any living being into suffering, do not commit anything evil, do not produce any delusions, and do not arouse any evil from your heart.

    You should regard the precepts as the laws of the world, when you want to violate any of them, you should be aware of the punishment with fear. You should uphold the teachings of the precepts sincerely and respectfully, keep the precepts solemnly as if they are in front of you, and as if you are facing something that you fear. You should keep your heart righteous and solemn, eliminate all thoughts, and listen attentively to the non-dual, then you will be able to experience the Correct Truth, and become my disciple.


    Ultra Subtleness Immortal Lord's Tabulation of Merits and Sins ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0185 ) says:

    (Regarding normal eating frequency and quantity) An insipid vegetarian meal produces one merit; an averagely tasted vegetarian meal produces half a merit; a very delicious vegetarian meal produces no merit.


    Ultra Subtleness Immortal Lord's Tabulation of Merits and Sins ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0185 ) says:

    Regarding meat-eating: Eating meat by intentional killing produces six sins. Eating meat by buying produces three sins. Intentional eating of forbidden meats produces six sins, while accidental eating of these meats produces three sins. Eating meat at an abstinent day produces ten sins. Chanting in an altar right after eating meat produces ten sins.


    Emptiness Emperor the Heavenly Lord's Ten Precept Tractate for the Junior Cultivators ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0179 ) says:

    The third precept: Do not kill any animal for food, instead, we should be benevolent and beneficial to all, including insects and worms.


    Emptiness Emperor the Heavenly Lord's Ten Precept Tractate for the Junior Cultivators ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0179 ) says:

    The seventh precept: Do not drink alcohol or eat meat, and do not violate the other precepts. One should regulate and harmonize his energies and temperament, and cultivate dedicatedly for the Pure Emptiness.


    Ultra Supreme Elder Lord's Scripture of Precepts ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0809 ) says:

    All living beings, including all kinds of animals, and those as small as insects, worms, and so forth, are containers of the uncreated energy, thus one should not kill any of them.


    Ultra Supreme Elder Lord's Scripture of Precepts ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0809 ) says:

    They will kill other living beings for food or commodities.

    Such people will suffer in their present lifetimes because of their bad deeds, and later they will fall into the destinies of afflictions for long.


    The Scripture of Dhoe and Virtue ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0691 ) says:

    There exists a master executioner that kills
    If we substitute for the master executioner to kill
    It is like substituting for the great carpenter to cut
    Those who substitute for the great carpenter to cut
    It is rare that they do not hurt their own hands


    Ultra Utmost Real Person Spoken Twenty-four Gates Precept Scripture ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0182 ) says:

    The first precept: Do not kill any animal, or slaughter any animal for food. Do not kill by yourself, or ask anyone to kill, or rejoice at killing, or eat any animals. A violator of this precept will be cooked in a cauldron in hell.


    Ultra Supreme Elder Lord's Scriptural Laws ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0811 ) says:

    The twenty-fourth precept: Do not drink alcohol or eat meat.

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    Buddhist and Taoist views on vegetarianism:

    http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/s...ad.php?t=62298

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphone View Post
    Ultra Subtleness Immortal Lord's Tabulation of Merits and Sins ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0185 ) says:

    (Regarding normal eating frequency and quantity) An insipid vegetarian meal produces one merit; an averagely tasted vegetarian meal produces half a merit; a very delicious vegetarian meal produces no merit.
    This is not the worst doctrine I've heard of -- I mean, surely it's not nearly as bad as the rape law of Deuteronomy 22:28-29 -- but surely it has got to be the most disappointing. Insipid eating is the most meritorious, average tasting is half-as-good, and really delicious vegetarian food is worth nothing? Killjoys.

    "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." -- Salvor Hardin in _Foundation_ by Isaac Asimov

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    Dear Idhan,

    I guess the "very delicious vegetarian meal" in the scripture does not refer to our simple daily cooking, but refers to some expensive, complicated, luxury, and exquisite vegetarian meals. One of the reasons that we became vegetarian is that we wish to protect the earth by reducing our environmental consumptions. However, a vegetarian meal can also be very costly to the environment (as many anti-vegetarians said). So I think, it might be better for us to avoid luxury vegetarian meals.
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    I was shocked to find out that the Dalai Lama isn't a vegetarian .

    I couldn't care less about him or Buddhism now . Atleast the Janists practice what they preach .

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    I'd make a better Epicurean than a Taoist. Epicureanism is not incompatible with vegetarianism at all, either.

    "People probably thought I was a bit weird... I've always marched to a different drumbeat & that's just me. I don't think you should just try & fit in because you want, you know, peer approval. I mean, too many of us live in fear of the disapproval of those around us, so I've always worked very hard at just being comfortable with who I am." Peter Brock, Aussie sporting legend, veg*n

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    [QUOTE=MikeFromSM;2516253]I was shocked to find out that the Dalai Lama isn't a vegetarian .

    I couldn't care less about him or Buddhism now

    me too....I was reading up on it for a year or so....but stopped.

    peace, love, and hippie holidays~~veggie (knot)vegan!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeFromSM View Post
    I was shocked to find out that the Dalai Lama isn't a vegetarian .

    I couldn't care less about him or Buddhism now . Atleast the Janists practice what they preach .
    The Dalai Lama represents one small tradition, much of which is based on tantra, rather than the teachings of Gautama Buddha.

    Tibetan Buddhism is really weird, it bares little to no resemblance to the Mahayan or Theravad traditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphone View Post
    ...Most living beings had abandoned the pure realm and are indulging in meat-eating, this defiles both their bodies and minds. They are like the hungry ghosts who eat dead bodies but cannot extinguish the fire that are burning their hungry intestines so that they can never eat their fill; they are also like the flies and worms who scramble for putrid and stinky things and stay still on them as if those are sandalwood.

    In a meat eater's body, the three palaces are turbid, and the six viscera are defiled, the dark souls (PUG) of the dead bodies (that he ate) are exciting and thriving, and are always willing to guide him to the place of death.
    ...

    Ultra Utmost Real Person Spoken Twenty-four Gates Precept Scripture ( Orthodox Taoist Canon 0182 ) says:

    The first precept: Do not kill any animal, or slaughter any animal for food. Do not kill by yourself, or ask anyone to kill, or rejoice at killing, or eat any animals. A violator of this precept will be cooked in a cauldron in hell.
    Sounds good to me.

    Our habit of moralizing problems, merging them with intuitions of purity and contamination, and resting content when we feel the right feelings, can get in the way of doing the right thing. ~ Steven Pinker

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