Is it possible to feed a snake with a vegan diet ?

[stanie]

People who are more interested in proving what ultra-radical, hard-core uber-vegans they are than they are about the well-being and welfare of the dependents in their care really shouldn't be taking care of companion animals.

As long as you have your image down pat who cares how quickly the snake dies? Why not have the snake put down - I mean, as long as you look cool on an internet forum who really cares?

Having the snake put down WOULD be the logical answer.
Look at it like this, snake gets "put to sleep", loss of one life. (Lets not forget too, that this snake is living in a tank in someones house, when it should be roaming in miles of forest.)
Snake is fed mice, loss of, one mouse a week, and 52 weeks multiplied by 20 years.
So, ONE dead snake, or 1040 dead mice.
Is the answer not obvious?

[Kiz]

Hrm.... we could kill all obligate carnivores across the entire planet, too, for that matter. In fact, this means you should give up hunt sabbing!! After all, foxes are obligate carnivores and kill lots of rabbits. Fox eats 4 rabbits and two birds a week, 6 animals times 52, 52 times 15 years... goddamit, those hunters are doing us a FAVOUR!!! Think of all the rabbits a foxhunter saves!

Or, or, or, this is even better, let the snakes live but only have deadly ones, and let them loose in the houses of meat eaters. Snake might eat a 1040 mice but kills 4 meat-eating humans a year, who would otherwise eat tens of thousands of animals each... even more animals saved!

[Kibbleforlola]

I think it's rather cruel to suggest putting the snake down. Pets are often considered family members. I mean, my dog eats meat, should I have her put down? Or what about my steak loving boyfriend, he should be put down too, by that logic. It's easy to say "one death is better than 10 deaths", but not so easy to say "my dog's death is better than 10 animals I don't know dying".

I know it's not always the "right" response, but still.

[KirstenKat]

Snakes eat animals. Not tofu. And putting it down is ridiculous. The snake would eat mice in the wild what's the difference? The argument for cats being carnivores can be refuted because cats are domestic, so atleat the idea of a vegan cat isn't ridiculous. However snakes exist in the wild and eat mice, so having a vegan snake is a bad idea. It's like taking in a pet lion (obviously that's silly but think of animal sanctuary's) and feeding him tofu to save the gazels.

And feeding a carnivore meat doesn't make her any less vegan.

But I'm of the mindset that every little bit helps so if she's gasp feeding her pet meat but %100 vegan, she's still saving lives.

[Earthling]

Having the snake put down WOULD be the logical answer.
Look at it like this, snake gets "put to sleep", loss of one life. (Lets not forget too, that this snake is living in a tank in someones house, when it should be roaming in miles of forest.)
Snake is fed mice, loss of, one mouse a week, and 52 weeks multiplied by 20 years.
So, ONE dead snake, or 1040 dead mice.
Is the answer not obvious?

Sorry, despite all your maths skills I don't see how it fits in with a vegan ethic to kill a perfectly healthy animal.

[sorrowthepig]

I don't know if you see the video of a snake in a japan zoo who did not eat a mouse, but become "friend" with him.

I dont know too if you have heard of little tyke a lion who refused to eat meat or blood all her life. Some animals don't want to kill other animals.

They make the choice not to kill.

Then give yours a choice.

If we can find for them an alternative like there is one for human, so i think we should try it.

No, you should let them try it. Side by side.

I agree we must not put theses animals in danger, but it isn't more "unnatural" to feed snakes with a vegan diet than to keep them with us in a terrarium.

Let's find out. You're open to alternatives so I'm volunteering you as the subject of this investigation.

Terrarium A is the size of your present residence and has a 21% atmospheric concentration of oxygen. Terrarium B is the same size but half the O2.

One month, your choice. Choose wisely.

[Pirate Ferret]

I cant imagine a snake even wanting to eat tofu. I hear even with frozen mice people often have to heat them up and wiggle them around a bit (sorry for the imagery).
When someone adopts a carnivore they have to take the responsibility of feeding it a proper diet. If your friend can't hack the mice she should rehome the snake.

Anyone got a link to this legendary troll thread? Ive heard of it before but never read it

[Abbey]

I don't know if you see the video of a snake in a japan zoo who did not eat a mouse, but become "friend" with him.

I dont know too if you have heard of little tyke a lion who refused to eat meat or blood all her life. Some animals don't want to kill other animals.

They make the choice not to kill.

If we can find for them an alternative like there is one for human, so i think we should try it.

Ok, then your friend should put some tofu and a frozen mouse in the terrarium and see which one the snake chooses. Let the snake make the choice; don't make the choice for the snake.

[dalquiezar]

The cats that live with us like the vegan food we give them. When cats don't want to eat something, they don't eat it. It's like a contract, they accept or they refused. But losts person on this forum don't dive the choose to the cat that live with them.

Most of you only think of the poor snake but not to the poor mice that are killed.

I care for all animals, including snakes and mice, and as an AR activist i try to know if there is an alternative to the killing of thousand mice ?

Mice don't want to be frozen, that's why i open this topic.

So if you don't have any constructive answer to this question, thank you to go writing your opinion in another topic.

PS : foxes are omnivorous (check in a dictionnary).

[Kiz]

So if you don't have any constructive answer to this question, thank you to go writing your opinion in another topic.

Nice attitude there. So, unless we agree with you utterly and or lie and say "yes, snakes eat tofu and are healthy" we should not post?