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guinnesshero
August 30th, 2008, 03:32 AM
Prosecutors said Arnold intentionally put her baby in the microwave oven and cooked the child to death after a fight with her boyfriend.



they should make a big microwave just to cook her ass in.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92S5ET04&show_article=1

megbot
August 30th, 2008, 11:14 AM
I don't think she should qualify for the death penalty if its a first offense though, she's not a threat to society imo.

Maybe forced to get a hysterectomy or choose death... so she can't reproduce, and forced to do community service for the rest of her life, but the death penalty should be for threats imo..

*AHIMSA*
August 30th, 2008, 11:32 AM
Anyone warped enough to do such a thing is most certainly a "threat".


they should make a big microwave just to cook her ass in.

THAW.

ReaganNC
August 30th, 2008, 11:32 AM
That story just broke my heart. I can't imagine what on earth makes someone want to inflict that kind of cruelty on her own child.

SonicEarth
August 30th, 2008, 12:35 PM
I have heard of people doing this after taking drugs, cannabis mostly.

nookle
August 30th, 2008, 01:24 PM
I have heard of people doing this after taking drugs, cannabis mostly.


:lol: Really? From this and your comment in the medicinal marijuana thread, I'm wondering where you get your information on the effects of pot. :p

rainforests1
August 30th, 2008, 02:11 PM
It is a horrible thing to do. Would it really be considered murder if she was drunk?

nookle
August 30th, 2008, 02:14 PM
It constantly astounds me that the law considers an altered (intentionally altered) state of mind a defense. I can only see it as intent. As in a homicide that could be manslaughter could be considered to be murder with intent if the person was intoxicated. Someone hits and kills someone with their car - manslaughter. If they hit and kill someone while driving drunk - intent.

*AHIMSA*
August 30th, 2008, 03:28 PM
If you are a parent and have your child with you, you are responsible for the care and safeguarding of that child. If *anything* happens to that child due to your negligence (including inebriation or not securing appropriate care for them in your absence or incapacitation) YOU ARE CULPABLE.

Eclipse27
August 31st, 2008, 12:10 AM
Oh my god...

Eclipse27
August 31st, 2008, 12:16 AM
I like how she claimed she did it for fear that the boyfriend would leave if he found out it wasn't his baby, but apparently she thinks he WOULDN'T have left her after she microwaves what he thought was HIS child. What incredibly stupid logic.

Wolfie
August 31st, 2008, 02:48 AM
It is a horrible thing to do. Would it really be considered murder if she was drunk?

Yes. The baby is still just as dead. Besides, I've been around a lot of drunk people and have yet to see someone who drank so much they thought microwaving an infant was a good idea. I've been there myself a time or two as well and have never tried to microwave my cat.

Just more proof that humans suck.

guinnesshero
August 31st, 2008, 08:04 AM
It is a horrible thing to do. Would it really be considered murder if she was drunk?

yes its still considered murder. I reeaaaly hope you never decide to become a prosecutor.

revelsunrise
August 31st, 2008, 08:33 AM
If you are a parent and have your child with you, you are responsible for the care and safeguarding of that child. If *anything* happens to that child due to your negligence (including inebriation or not securing appropriate care for them in your absence or incapacitation) YOU ARE CULPABLE.

I agree with you entirely on this statement! Before I had a child I really enjoyed having a few glasses of wine or a few cocktails. Now, when I am responsible for the health and well-being of my baby I don't dare pick up a drink (or touch any other substance that could impair my judgment!) :whack:

Inexcusable.

Also, wow! It took three years for them to get a conviction on this.

Cissy
August 31st, 2008, 10:11 AM
that is beyond ****ed up. poor little baby :(

Beancounter
August 31st, 2008, 03:38 PM
The death penalty cost the tax payers a lot of money.

Instead, they should lock her up in an insane asylum for life.

She is definitely a threat to society.

Technobarbie
September 2nd, 2008, 08:38 AM
It constantly astounds me that the law considers an altered (intentionally altered) state of mind a defense.

Yeah it's silly. Anyone who murders another person is mentally insane at that moment.

*AHIMSA*
September 2nd, 2008, 09:24 AM
Anyone who murders another person is mentally insane at that moment.No, not always true at all.

AutomaticMan
September 2nd, 2008, 12:10 PM
I have heard of people doing this after taking drugs, cannabis mostly.

You have a rather unhealthy hatred of a relatively healthy herb.


The death penalty cost the tax payers a lot of money.

Instead, they should lock her up in an insane asylum for life.

She is definitely a threat to society.

What actually is the point in locking someone in an asylum for life? It's a complete waste of money and resources, and doesn't seem the most logical way to deal with a problem, IMO.



What's most horrific about this is she didn't just kill the baby, she microwaved the baby. She didn't just lash out and then regret treating the child too harshly or whatever. There is no defence for what she did, it is pure sadism.

I'd fully support any movement to get humans like that executed. There's more chance of an overnight vegan revolution than sadists such as her reforming.

peace
September 2nd, 2008, 04:33 PM
I have heard of people doing this after taking drugs, cannabis mostly.

You're the latest victim of an urban legend that predates microwaves. It has circulated since the 1960s at least and originally involved a conventional oven.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/drugs/babysitter.asp

But back to the real story--this is truly horrific. One only wishes this viciousness could be debunked by Snopes.

Cissy
September 2nd, 2008, 07:48 PM
One only wishes this viciousness could be debunked by Snopes.

word.

Beancounter
September 2nd, 2008, 08:06 PM
What actually is the point in locking someone in an asylum for life? It's a complete waste of money and resources, and doesn't seem the most logical way to deal with a problem, IMO.

I'd fully support any movement to get humans like that executed.

The point, is that a typical life sentence cost less than an execution. ..and I wouldn't want to waste resources on a hopeless case like that.

If she can kill her own child in such a cruel and agonizing way, just think what she would do to a stranger...