As usual I will quitting a normal work out program yet again.

[Eclipse]

WHy?...

This happens every time I get on a regular work out schedule. I've done it before and quit due to the negative side effects it had.
I develop chronic fatigue and waste away at an alarming rate.

I am now back to sleeping most of the time and when I'm awake eating heavily to counteract the wasting effects of fitness.
I'm not even doing anything intense, just lifting weights every two days. It's all very frustrating because I feel like I'm choosing between my career and fitness.

So I feellike I have a few choices:
Go back to high stimulation foods to counteract the fatigue effects of fitness so I have energy for other activities like massage. Choices include sugary foods and caffeine.
Quit fitness. Fitness is essential to health.
Quit massage. Increased money is essential for self empowerment.

So self empowerment VS health tough choice.

[*AHIMSA*]

So self empowerment VS health tough choice.
I don't believe it's possible to have one and not the other.

[hoodedclawjen]

have you ever considered getting into a personal development mentoring program of some kind?

[Eclipse]

A what?. If you mean ask the doctors...Fitness means nothing to them. Gaining weight and nutrition means nothing to them. Both issues with them will be:wall:

Course they don't hesitate to make comments about a person's weight. But doctors help you correct it?, nnnooonooo. :dunce:

[Byzantea]

If you're developing fatigue as you work out, you're working out too hard or too often. Drop the time duration of your workouts. Keep a journal! How many hours / workout and how many days / week are you doing it? How many calories per day do you get (approx) and how much do you sleep?

[Libellula]

i agree with soy 6-pack. AND if you are developing fatigue as you work out, you need to eat more. If you are eating enough to sustain you through and after workouts, it will help A LOT. I sleep amazingly well due to working out, but if i'm sluggish during the day, I know I need to find a snack, stat!

DM may have some advice, too.

[hoodedclawjen]

A what?. If you mean ask the doctors...Fitness means nothing to them. Gaining weight and nutrition means nothing to them. Both issues with them will be

Course they don't hesitate to make comments about a person's weight. But doctors help you correct it?, nnnooonooo.

ok, nooooooooo, thats really not what i meant.

a mentor is someone who works WITH you, to help you find ways to get through barriers and hurdles, and reach your goals.

i was suggesting that you get some proffesional help from a mentor, to achieve your goals- not from a doctor, to look at your health, cos i don't think your health is the only thing holding you back, or the only thing you can affect in a positive way.

from reading your posts, i've gathered that you seem to have a continual struggle where you really want to make positive, productive changes, but for whatever reason (health, other peoples attitudes, your interpretation of situations- i don't know, there seem to be quite a few barriers in your case) you are getting stuck, repeatedly.

i think having someone who is skilled in helping you find ways to move past and around these obstacles, despite them, might be really positive for you. thats a mentors role. they don't tell you whats wrong with you and fix it, they help you look at what you CAN do, and how, and why, and they help you find ways to make things work out much more positively and productively.

sometimes they help you look at things differently, get your confidence up, and make use of resources that will support your changes, sometimes they put you in touch with people who can help you practically, financially, socially, etc, and help you apply for aid, or go with you to meetings as moral support. sometimes they act as a sounding board, a source of positive vibes, a check point, a reminder of where you're going, and how you're acheiving, etc.

they're kind of like scaffolding when you're building changes into your life. i think you could benefit from some scaffolding.

there are free mentoring programs available through lots of community groups and agencies, i used to work for one, so i know how helpful they can be. might be worth a try- as a different tactic to acheiving your goals.

[eggplant]

Based on this and your other posts I would venture to guess that you're not eating enough nutrient dense foods and that's why you get so fatigued when you exercise. Do not eat sugary foods and caffeine. Eat more, and when you do eat, eat veggies, fruit, whole grains, legumes, and good fats.

I also must mention that for someone who is always claiming to want to become "self-empowered", you seem to sabotage yourself a lot with a victim mentality. Self-empowered people don't constantly look for reasons why they can't accomplish whatever it is they want to accomplish. They just do whatever it is they need to do. There are people who come from impoverished backgrounds or who have crippling disabilities who achieve their goals by having a positive attitude and looking at obstacles as challenges rather than barriers. That is what self-empowerment is. Until you start looking at the world in a radically different way, I'm afraid that you'll always feel like a victim of circumstance.

[Eclipse]

Could some mod fix this skipped letter?. Typos are such an eye sore.

As usual I will be quitting a normal work out program yet again.

[Libellula]

eclipse, why quit? why not modify it? if three days at an hour stretch per week are too much for you, try two days at 30 mins doing something like yoga or pilates. try adjusting your diet. i recently started weight lifting and my appetite did jump.

[Dirty Martini]

There's got to be some kind of hypochondria going on here. From thinking you can't work because you have to eat frequently to freaking out over "bleeding genitals" ... you have a fixation on various physical ailments, many based on fatigue, and if you aren't seeing a mental health specialist already, you need to go.

[Terry B.]

I am now back to sleeping most of the time and when I'm awake eating heavily to counteract the wasting effects of fitness.


A lot of America is suffering from the wasting effects of fitness.................wait.

Being fit is the opposite of what you described. Fitness means having energy and vitality in all areas of your life. Your lack of fitness is what keeps you in bed all day.

Your post was so general that, honestly, it didn't make any sense. Post what you eat. Post what you do in the gym. Specifics will likely result in specific advice.

[animallover7249]

A lot of America is suffering from the wasting effects of fitness.................wait.

Being fit is the opposite of what you described. Fitness means having energy and vitality in all areas of your life. Your lack of fitness is what keeps you in bed all day.

Your post was so general that, honestly, it didn't make any sense. Post what you eat. Post what you do in the gym. Specifics will likely result in specific advice.

Good luck. Her posts about herself are always very vauge.

[Libellula]

eclipse, something is going on here that has nothing to do with fitness, eating enough, etc. you need to go see a doctor and see what they have to say, even if you don't like it.

[mysticaries78]

Could some mod fix this skipped letter?. Typos are such an eye sore.

As usual I will be quitting a normal work out program yet again.

What are you eating?

[Terry B.]

What are you eating?

Not nearly enough.

Think that there is a connection here?

http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=83672

[zoebird]

i think it's a simple solution, honestly.

work out more in balance with your particular needs
eat more in balance with your particular needs
rest in balance with your particular needs

create a balanced work-life relationship

meditate.

[sarahjayn1980]

I've had a few health problems myself and sometimes they have limited my physical movement. However, if you are so limited you can't excercise at all, you need medical help. And, if your doctor doesn't value health and fitness, you need a new doctor.

[Tweety]

I think investing in a personal trainer and/or a dietician is in order.

An exercise program is could be exhausting for sure at first, but eventually it should energize you, helping you to sleep better.

If your wasting away you're simply not eating enough.

You don't need to quit an exercise program, you need guidance in doing it correctly.

I think though a good physical exam would be in order just to make you're you're not anemic or have thyroid or other problems, if after you make honest adjustments you still feel bad. Exercise intolerance can be a sign of ill health.

[Eclipse]

I've had a few health problems myself and sometimes they have limited my physical movement. However, if you are so limited you can't excercise at all, you need medical help. And, if your doctor doesn't value health and fitness, you need a new doctor.

It's seriously depressing how doctors won't help with fitness or nutrition at all.
Except if you don't eat animals products they might tell you to add these in.
Most of the docs are heavily oriented towards sexuality around here. Maybe I only notice this because I'm asexual.

I can exercise about half of the time and I was more into weight lifting at one time, it just ate up all of my time and energy so if I wanted to do other things such as education and jobs, I was forced to quit.

[Eclipse]

I think investing in a personal trainer and/or a dietician is in order.

I tried. I need diabetes or kidney failure first.

An exercise program is could be exhausting for sure at first, but eventually it should energize you, helping you to sleep better.

It's not like I just started working out, I was working out before just in a different form. I only quit when I get too sick to do it.

If your wasting away you're simply not eating enough.

I've been eating most of the day, only thing I can do is eat higher calories. I cannot eat more because there's only so many hours in a day.

You don't need to quit an exercise program, you need guidance in doing it correctly.

That would be ideal. Thing is it costs a lot of money. I would love to stick with it and not have to quit on a regular basis.

I think though a good physical exam would be in order just to make you're you're not anemic or have thyroid or other problems, if after you make honest adjustments you still feel bad. Exercise intolerance can be a sign of ill health.

Anemia is always a possibility, though I keep taking my vitamins including strong doses of B vitamins for my weirdo B vitamin issues.