View Full Version : 'Burned wife with iron' and let off with fine
Jon_Veggie
February 12th, 2008, 10:21 AM
A truly shocking case:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=476644&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&ct=5&expand=true
isowish
February 12th, 2008, 10:45 AM
what a TWAT. no wonder people are scared of speaking up about domestic violence, or think that is doesn't help. It obviously DOESN'T for a lot of people :(
TOO BUSY to be punished? oh please :rolleyes: society shouldn't have to apply its punishments only when it's convenient for the violent bullies that deserve them.
chryssiie718
February 12th, 2008, 10:51 AM
Appalling!! Just because he is rich shouldn't give him special privileges under the law. I hope she gets some of that money in the divorce settlement.
Pixelle
February 12th, 2008, 11:38 AM
I think rulings like this might possibly have something to do with the fact that there's so much over crowding in UK prisons now that they're looking for any excuse not to send someone.
Maybe they can get a sentence on appeal.
Just_Kris
February 12th, 2008, 12:02 PM
His busy schedule and "reaping the financial benefits" of his job are EXACTLY why he needs to be sent to prison & perform community service. Apparently, a fine is not enough to jog his memory ...... "Yeah, my wife was self-harming..... Yep that accounts for the bruises and the slashes. What? The iron marks on her back? Hmmm.... I don't recall that but I guess maybe she did it when she ran into the iron, twice. No? Well, I guess I might have done that but with my big fat salary and company beach parties, I just don't remember."
Byzantea
February 12th, 2008, 12:07 PM
Well the big question here is whether or not she deserved it, and whether or not he had the decency to use starch.
Serenstar
February 12th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Doesn't really surprise me. Happened to us. Except it was deemed "not in the public interest" for the b*****d to even have a trial. Reason why? Because the judge in the county court at the time was the guy who had first given the b*****d a job in the county. Scandalous! :brood:
Ummm... yeah... I'm pretty bitter about this sort of thing....
goldfish
February 12th, 2008, 01:22 PM
That is truly shocking. Whatever happened to that "domestic abuse, there's no excuse" campaign they ran a few years ago? No excuse, unless your (also very busy, medical student) wife hasn't ironed your Hawaiian shirt, in which case, she clearly deserved it.
LionSpirit
February 12th, 2008, 07:47 PM
This is disgusting. I can only hope that an appeal is lodged in order to get a custodial sentence, but with the crappy CPS we have here I seriously doubt it.
LionSpirit
February 12th, 2008, 07:56 PM
If anyone lives near any LEK Consulting branch I suggest a protest urging a boycott until the company fires the wife-beater
http://www.lek.com/about/offices.cfm
hoodedclawjen
February 12th, 2008, 08:14 PM
i don't think they could legally fire him for spousal abuse.
what they could perhaps do though, is be persuaded to give him LOTS of (unpaid) time off so he could do a lot of community service over the next year.
be interesting to see what they come up with if they do let him go, though.
IamJen
February 13th, 2008, 04:28 AM
Well the big question here is whether or not she deserved it, and whether or not he had the decency to use starch.
What an idiotic, ****head thing to say. :up:
AutomaticMan
February 13th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Ah, misogyny is alive and well. Who says we don't need Feminism?
Just_Kris
February 13th, 2008, 11:49 AM
You know, there are certain times in life in which "eye for an eye" would really drive home a point. This is one.
animallover7249
February 13th, 2008, 12:21 PM
What an idiotic, ****head thing to say. :up:
Yeah, really.
isowish
February 13th, 2008, 12:24 PM
I don't think what Soy 6-pack said was offensive. I didn't find it particularly funny, but if he did ... I don't think it's innappropriate. Levity helps us deal with all kinds of awful things. I'm a massive levity fan.
Pixelle
February 13th, 2008, 12:40 PM
I thought it was inappropriate.
Jon_Veggie
February 13th, 2008, 04:04 PM
i don't think they could legally fire him for spousal abuse.
what they could perhaps do though, is be persuaded to give him LOTS of (unpaid) time off so he could do a lot of community service over the next year.
be interesting to see what they come up with if they do let him go, though.
He did get fired! http://archive.theargus.co.uk/2007/9/4/241139.html
What community service do you think he should get hoodedclawjen? I think in a case like this jail is the only option, maybe about 10 years.
Just_Kris
February 13th, 2008, 07:29 PM
He did get fired! http://archive.theargus.co.uk/2007/9/4/241139.html
What community service do you think he should get hoodedclawjen? I think in a case like this jail is the only option, maybe about 10 years.
I think working in a laundry place where he has to press other people's clothing for free all day would be perfect.
hoodedclawjen
February 13th, 2008, 07:52 PM
i'd prefer he lost his liberties too, but i doubt the judge would go for it, and thought at least if his excuse for community service didn't stand, that'd be at least a start.
the laundry idea does sound somewhat appealing. maybe i'd take it up a level and have him work collecting, sorting, washing, drying, and ironing dirty nappies/diapers and heavily soiled hospital/nursing home bedlinen, preferably at really unsociable hours, wearing a pink lacy uniform, and accompanied by all female co-workers and supervisors.
LovelyPerv
February 14th, 2008, 03:51 AM
What burned me the most is this:
"But the judge said it was the circumstances of the marriage that had provoked Read and that now those circumstances had gone, sending him to prison would "help no one". "
As horrid as it is that he's basically saying that she had provoked her own attacks by failing to iron a shirt and make sandwiches, could we set a legal precedence based on this trial?
I mean, if the circumstances that caused me to commit my crime no longer apply, then I don't have to go to jail because odds are I wouldn't commit that crime again?
So, if I drive drunk, and wreck my car...then I don't have to go to jail because my car is totaled, and it's impossible for me to commit that crime twice?
If I kill my arch nemesis, I shouldn't have to go to jail because it's not like I can kill him twice.
This misses the whole point of PENALTIES... Penalties, whatever their form, make people think twice about committing that crime. If there's no real consequence, then not only will people be fearless when it comes to beating their spouses, but those spouses won't even bother reporting them.
If I drive too fast in my car, I can get a $50-$150 ticket... and I only get pulled over every 3 years or so... so I continue to drive fast because that fine is not a deterrent. Now, if I could be arrested on the spot and face 6 months in jail for speeding, I'd never go over the speed limit again.
Jon_Veggie
February 14th, 2008, 08:43 AM
i'd prefer he lost his liberties too, but i doubt the judge would go for it, and thought at least if his excuse for community service didn't stand, that'd be at least a start.
the laundry idea does sound somewhat appealing. maybe i'd take it up a level and have him work collecting, sorting, washing, drying, and ironing dirty nappies/diapers and heavily soiled hospital/nursing home bedlinen, preferably at really unsociable hours, wearing a pink lacy uniform, and accompanied by all female co-workers and supervisors.
Wow, that would get his attention Jen! :yes:
How long would you have him doing this for?
hoodedclawjen
February 14th, 2008, 10:42 AM
hahaha. until he's deemed 'rehabilitated' by a group of both specialists and laypersons. :p
i'd probably have him covertly recorded (oops, there go your civil liberties, mate!), and his actions and attitude assessed and reported upon every 3 months or so,- so that a picture can be built of his recovery, and a judgement formed as to his ability to return to society as a non-threat.
obviously he'd need to be in some regular group therapy with other abusers and a specialist councellor while he's doing his community service, so that he 'gets it' and has an opportunity to develop and practice the skills, understanding, and education he needs to change, otherwise being dressed in pink and exposed to poo all the time is just going to leave him pretty embarrassed, hostile and resentful. could get pretty messy if he wigs out and looses it when surrounded by dirty nappies, no?
Jon_Veggie
February 14th, 2008, 11:30 AM
Jen for Prime Minister!
I like it :up:
hoodedclawjen
February 14th, 2008, 11:38 AM
:vebo: woohooo! :vebo:
ok everyone, i'm in charge! Jon said so!
Please form an orderly line to rub my feet and feed me seedless grapes.
:sealed: :lol: :whip:
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