Origins and Smashbox

[vegchica13]

Two things:

I was planning on trying Origins skincare and makeup. I know they are vegan (aside from a few things with honey I believe) and I have been using Clinique which I know does use animal products. Just wondering if anyone has any experience or recommendations for any Origins products? I have combination skin. Thanks!

Second, I saw that Smashbox got some recognition from Peta for being cruelty free. But it doesn't appear that their products are vegan. If anybody has any info on that I'd like to know as well. :)

Thank you and also if either of these things have already been discussed in detail please re-direct me, I didn't see anything. Thanks!

[vegchica13]

I e-mailed Smashbox and here is the reply I got....

Dear Anna,

technically all smashbox products are considered vegan.

"Animals" is a term widely recognized to mean mammals. Our cosmetics are
free of animal ingredients. Some vegans may also consider "insects" to
be animals. This is a gray area and is even debated by PETA followers.
Some time ago, smashbox determined that our official interpretation of
"No animal ingredients" really means "No animal ingredients...insects
are not animals". We have continued to use Carmine, Beeswax, and Honey
in cosmetic formulations. Our brushes are not cosmetics so technically
are not subject to this claim.

Some vegan-friendly products that do not contain any animal bi products
or insect ingredients (i.e ., carmine or beeswax) are:

* Body Lights Glowing Lotion
* Anti Shine, Light
* Anti Shine, Neutral
* Backdrop Cooling Tint (all shades)
* Conversion Cream to Powder Foundation (all shades)
* Hi Definition Healthy FX Foundation (all shades)
* Photo Matte Powder
* Wet/Dry Foundation (all shades except Caramel)
* Function Self-Adjusting Powder Foundation (all shades)
* Photo Finish Color Correcting Foundation Primers (Balance,
Adjust & Blend)
* Summer 2007 Lip Gloss in a Pot (Heat, Sexy)

Best Wishes,

SMASHBOX COSMETICS

This helped me, hopefully it will help someone else!

[IamJen]

I'm sorry but that Smashbox letter is beyond crap, imo. "Some" vegans may also consider insects to be animals? Please. Why not just say which products are suitable for vegans? :dizzy:

I've had good experiences with Origins. I've only used a bit of makeup as that's not really my thang, but I've tried many of their body/skin care products and some fragrances. I've been to several stores, and all but one had a list of vegan items readily available. I'm trying to make my cosmetic purchases in the future though, of paraben-free items, and that cuts out many of their products.

[*AHIMSA*]

They contradict themselves and basic science so many times in this that it is pathetic. :dunce: :wall:



Dear Anna,

technically all smashbox products are considered vegan.

"Animals" is a term widely recognized to mean mammals. Our cosmetics are
free of animal ingredients. Some vegans may also consider "insects" to
be animals. This is a gray area and is even debated by PETA followers.
Some time ago, smashbox determined that our official interpretation of
"No animal ingredients" really means "No animal ingredients...insects
are not animals". We have continued to use Carmine, Beeswax, and Honey
in cosmetic formulations. Our brushes are not cosmetics so technically
are not subject to this claim.


RE; Origins: I am glad that Origins has a new line of organics and paraben-free products. It's about time!