The U.S. Presidential Candidates on Animal Issues

[peace]

Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, a longtime vegetarian and now a vegan, celebrated Thanksgiving 2007 at the Animal Acres sanctuary in Acton, California. Kucinich was scheduled to discuss animal issues on November 29 on a Dialogue for Democracy webcast...

Full article:
http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/07/11/candidatesonanimalissues11_07.html

[jenna]

:-/ Not much to choose from regarding that topic.

[chryssiie718]

:-/ No surprises there actually. The NRA is a powerful lobby...

[peace]

Just found out that Mike Huckabee eats horses.

http://network.bestfriends.org/animalworldusa/news/21829.html

[Fromper]

Just found out that Mike Huckabee eats horses.

http://network.bestfriends.org/animalworldusa/news/21829.html

Other than Kucinich, I think all of the other presidential candidates eat cows. What's he difference?

--Fromper
:juggle:

[Sevenseas]

They didn't say anything about Gravel. But yeah, Kucinich seems to be the only decent one of the bunch.

[kpickell]

Uh, it seems like the candidates position on hunting and gun control is the only thing they looked at. I'm surprised they didn't at least look at the voting records for the many animal-related bills that have gone through congress, given that the majority of the presidential candidates are members of congress.

[peace]

While I agree there's no moral difference between eating cows and eating horses, I thought it was an interesting (and under-reported) fact people may want to hear about.

Also, one could argue that by eating 'taboo' meat from an animal generally considered a pet in the US, and then laughing it off, one could surmise that a person's values toward all animals (even 'pets') are especially low.

[rainforests1]

That was interesting. I didn't realize Obama and Cheney were related. I've read that about Kucinich before, so I'd like to see him become more popular. He seems very likeable. What about Ralph Nader? I voted for him last time, so I'd be curious as to what his views on animal issues are.

[bramble]

Just found out that Mike Huckabee eats horses.

http://network.bestfriends.org/animalworldusa/news/21829.html

no surprise. he got his son off the hook for torturing a dog to death at boy scout camp. apparently that family doesn't object to cruelty.

romney is no better, he took a family road trip with his dog in a kennel that was strapped on the top of the mini-van or whatever. people noticed it when they had to stop to wash the vehicle because the dog had pooped or vomited (can't remember which) all over.

[jenna]

no surprise. he got his son off the hook for torturing a dog to death at boy scout camp. apparently that family doesn't object to cruelty.

romney is no better, he took a family road trip with his dog in a kennel that was strapped on the top of the mini-van or whatever. people noticed it when they had to stop to wash the vehicle because the dog had pooped or vomited (can't remember which) all over.

Do you have links on hand for where you read that?

[bramble]

Do you have links on hand for where you read that?

the incident with mitt romney's dog:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1638065,00.html

huckabee's son and the dog torture incident, with info about the prosecutor he fired for not cooperating with the coverup:
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/12/17/details-of-huckabees-dog-torture-episode-coming-out/

there was a newsweek article as well.

[LovelyPerv]

no surprise. he got his son off the hook for torturing a dog to death at boy scout camp. apparently that family doesn't object to cruelty.

romney is no better, he took a family road trip with his dog in a kennel that was strapped on the top of the mini-van or whatever. people noticed it when they had to stop to wash the vehicle because the dog had pooped or vomited (can't remember which) all over.

:spew:

Duh...
If I were strapped to the top of a mini-van traveling on our interstates, I'd probably pee, poop, vomit, and release other bodily fluids I didn't even know I had!!!

[bramble]

:spew:

Duh...
If I were strapped to the top of a mini-van traveling on our interstates, I'd probably pee, poop, vomit, and release other bodily fluids I didn't even know I had!!!

i'd do it out of spite :shifty:

not to mention our buddy romney was in charge of organizing the olympics here in utah, and made sure to include rodeo as part of the "games." :mad: what is wrong with people's brains? =:P

nope i wouldn't vote for him or huckabee if they were the only two candidates running. (i'd write in mickey mouse or something).

[LovelyPerv]

the incident with mitt romney's dog:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1638065,00.html

huckabee's son and the dog torture incident, with info about the prosecutor he fired for not cooperating with the coverup:
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/12/17/details-of-huckabees-dog-torture-episode-coming-out/

there was a newsweek article as well.

Thanks for those...
Huckabee's son LOOKS like he's got mental issues... Is it just me, or does his head have a wierd shape?

[bramble]

Thanks for those...
Huckabee's son LOOKS like he's got mental issues... Is it just me, or does his head have a wierd shape?

his ears are low LOL i'm not sure if that is related to IQ but... yeah it makes him look strange. i'm not even suggesting that huckabee is accountable for what his son did, only for the coverup of the incident.

the coverup actually makes me wonder if the dad has something to do with why the son is so jacked up :-/ maybe not but... maybe so, who knows.

[Sevenseas]

What a pair of sick ****s. They oppose abortion and yet are prime examples of the benefits of it.

[nogardsram]

They oppose abortion and yet are prime examples of the benefits of it.

:lol:

[JennyO]

Damn that is really upsetting that Kucinich is the only democrat who is against hunting. Now I really don't know who to vote for. I would love to vote for Kucinich but he doesn't stand a chance :(

[Munya]

Also, one could argue that by eating 'taboo' meat from an animal generally considered a pet in the US, and then laughing it off, one could surmise that a person's values toward all animals (even 'pets') are especially low.
That's how I feel.

[Indian Summer]

Well, the Clintons had a cat called Socks ...

AS THE “first pet” of the Clinton era, Socks, the White House cat, allowed “chilly” Hillary Clinton to show a caring, maternal side as well as bringing joy to her daughter Chelsea. So where is Socks today?

Once the presidency was over, there was no room for Socks any more. After years of loyal service at the White House, the black and white cat was dumped on Betty Currie, Bill Clinton’s personal secretary, who also had an embarrassing clean-up role in the saga of his relationship with the intern Monica Lewinsky.
[...]
Flanagan’s article, headed No Girlfriend of Mine, points out that Clinton wrote a crowd-pleas-ing book Dear Socks, Dear Buddy: Kids’ Letters to the First Pets, in which she claimed that only with the arrival of Socks and his “toy mouse” did the White House “become a home”.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2702804.ece
Apparently, the cat wasn't enough for them, so they decided to get a dog as well :rolleyes: The cat and dog didn't play well together (surprise, surprise), so they decided to get rid of the cat. (Of course, this could have been worse - they could have dumped the cat on the street or "put it to sleep", which some inhumans do. The problem is, Mrs. Clinton is trying to paint herself as a human.)

[Munya]

Wow I'm glad I can't vote, I wouldn't know who to choose. All the dems are out, Kucinich would be the perfect candidate for me if only he was prolife. Huckabee is defiently a no no.

[bramble]

What a pair of sick ****s. They oppose abortion and yet are prime examples of the benefits of it.

:yes:

:sealed:

:lol:

[Animosity]

I got this information from another forum i'm on. Apprently Kucinich has dropped out of the race. It's a real shame, Even though I knew he wouldn't win anyway. I guess now it's certein that we'll be stuck with another uncompassonate 'leader'


CLEVELAND - Democrat Dennis Kucinich is abandoning his second, long-shot bid for the White House as he faces a tough fight to hold onto his other job — U.S. congressman.

In an interview with Cleveland's Plain Dealer, the six-term House member said he was quitting the race and would make a formal announcement on Friday.

"I will be announcing that I'm transiting out of the presidential campaign," Kucinich said. "I'm making that announcement tomorrow about a new direction."

Kucinich has received little support in his presidential bid; he got 1 percent of the vote in the New Hampshire primary and was shut out in the Iowa caucuses. He did have a devoted following.

Kucinich, 61, is facing four challengers in the Democratic congressional primary March 4, and earlier this week he made an urgent appeal on his Web site for funds for his re-election. Rival Joe Cimperman has been critical of Kucinich for focusing too much time outside of his district while campaigning for president.

His decision comes a month after his youngest brother, Perry Kucinich, was found dead.

Kucinich said he will not endorse another Democrat in the primary.

Kucinich brought the same sense of idealism to his second run for president as he did in his first bid. He said he was entering the race again because the Democratic Party wasn't pushing hard enough to end the Iraq war.

Once dubbed the "boy mayor" of Cleveland, he made an unpopular decision to refuse to sell a publicly owned utility that pushed the city into default and drove him from office.

After the city's financial troubles, the mayor faced death threats, and was forced to wear a bulletproof vest when he threw out the first ball at a Cleveland Indians game. He barely survived a recall vote.

But he lost his bid for re-election as mayor of Cleveland in 1978 to Republican George Voinovich, who went on to become governor and then U.S. senator. His life and his political career were derailed. Kucinich spent more than a decade trying to get back into politics — traveling around the country and then working as a teacher, consultant and television news reporter.

In 1994, Kucinich was elected state senator and he then won a seat in Congress in 1996. His once unpopular stand against the sale of the municipal electric system was praised as courageous. In 1998, the Cleveland City Council issued him a commendation for having the foresight to refuse to sell it.

During his time in Congress, Kucinich has been one of the most outspoken liberals, opposing international trade agreements like the North America Free Trade Agreement and marching with protesters in Seattle during a meeting of the World Trade Organization.

As a presidential candidate, he has proposed a Department of Peace, backed universal health care and supported gay marriage. He also pushed for impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney.

At a debate last October, Kucinich delivered one of the night's lighter moments when he confirmed seeing an unidentified flying object at the Washington state home of actress Shirley MacLaine. With a smile, he said he would open a campaign office in Roswell, N.M., home to many alleged UFO sightings.

Kucinich married British citizen Elizabeth Harper, in 2005, ensuring his 2008 campaign would have one dramatic difference from his first campaign. Kucinich told New Hampshire audiences during the 2004 race that he was seeking a mate. Women then vied for a date with him during a contest arranged by a New Hampshire political Web site, but nothing romantic evolved from Kucinich's breakfast with the winner.