View Full Version : Children herded into Maryland courthouse for Forced Vaccinations. Gunpoint Medicine.
Silver
November 20th, 2007, 01:10 PM
http://www.newstarget.com/022267.html
These children were herded at gunpoint and surrounded by attack dogs into the courtroom. Even the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons announced its strong opposition to the Maryland "Gunpoint Medicine" vaccination campaign.
"Following the State of Maryland's threats against parents who refuse to have their children vaccinated, children were herded into a Price George County courthouse being guarded by armed personnel with attack dogs. Inside, the children were forcibly vaccinated, many against their will, under orders from the State Attorney General, various State Judges and the local School Board Director, all of whom illegally conspired to threaten parents with imprisonment if they did not submit their children to vaccinations.
The entire campaign against these parents is blatantly illegal. There is no law in Maryland requiring the vaccination of children, thus parents who refuse to do so may not be legally charged with violating any law. Instead, Maryland health and school authorities are using Gestapo-like tactics, threatening to charge the parents with child truancy violations, criminalizing them for daring to protect their children from the dangerous chemicals found in vaccines (including thimerosal, a chemical additive containing a neurotoxic form of mercury).
IamJen
November 20th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Hm. I cannot find this article covered anywhere else...do you have some other sources? Honestly, even being a sort of "liberal" issue, I'd bet that guard dogs and force immunizations would make the evening news, even in DC.
Iria
November 20th, 2007, 04:39 PM
I read about this in the "regular" news. I'll try to find a link. What I recall is that they were threatening to expel students whose vaccinations were not up to date and then they said that truant officers would then have to arrest the parents because the kids weren't attending school.
Iria
November 20th, 2007, 04:41 PM
New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/us/18vaccine.html?ref=us
Associated Press: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gxgfgb8Vfn3PogUnYZrIYaATQliwD8SUVOEG1
Hang~Ten~Honey
November 20th, 2007, 04:44 PM
Hm. I cannot find this article covered anywhere else...do you have some other sources? Honestly, even being a sort of "liberal" issue, I'd bet that guard dogs and force immunizations would make the evening news, even in DC.
Actually, it's been all over the news here (I'm in md) for a few days.
IamJen
November 20th, 2007, 04:45 PM
Thanks for the links! I read the Post most every day, and have seen nothing.
ETA: Hm, the story is slightly different that what the first article suggests. I'd read about the legal challenges/truancy issues before, but this
Following the State of Maryland's threats against parents who refuse to have their children vaccinated, children were herded into a Price George County courthouse being guarded by armed personnel with attack dogs. Inside, the children were forcibly vaccinated, many against their will, under orders from the State Attorney General, various State Judges and the local School Board Director, all of whom illegally conspired to threaten parents with imprisonment if they did not submit their children to vaccinations. is some seriously poor journalism. Implying that the dogs were there for the children, when it appears that the dogs are there well, every day.
Also, the parents are still able to apply for religious and ethical objections, they just didn't do so. This is less about "gestapo" tactics and more about a paperwork issue.
Silver
November 20th, 2007, 06:17 PM
New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/us/18vaccine.html?ref=us
Associated Press: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gxgfgb8Vfn3PogUnYZrIYaATQliwD8SUVOEG1
[see above link]: Barbara Loe Fisher, head of National Vaccine Information Center, a vaccine skeptic group, complained: "It is terrorizing parents. When you have the threat of going to jail, it is hard to make an informed decision."
Even the judge who opened his court is somewhat skeptical about hauling parents into court.
Silver
November 20th, 2007, 06:29 PM
Please remember:
There is no law that enforces the mandatory use of any vaccine
in the United States.
Enforced medical treatment is a violation of the 14th amendment.
You have a legal right to say no.
Jon_Veggie
November 21st, 2007, 05:02 PM
Astonishing. Sometimes I am so glad I live in the UK.
Libellula
November 21st, 2007, 05:12 PM
Jon_Veggie, do not take this as the sole example of h ow things are in teh US
i grew up in an area where vaccinations seemed optional.. we had them all, but some people i know are growing up with only the bare minimum.
Jon_Veggie
November 21st, 2007, 05:18 PM
Jon_Veggie, do not take this as the sole example of h ow things are in teh US
.
Sorry, just this would not have been allowed to happen in the UK. There are plenty negative things about the UK too though :)
IamJen
November 21st, 2007, 05:36 PM
You have a legal right to say no.
Then.....why didn't they?
Seriously. I know it's a pain in the ass. I've worked in childcare (and children who were heading to Kindergarten) in 3 different states. I worked on an informational campaign about the Varicella vaccine, when I was in university.
If the parents really didn't want their children to have the vaccine, then why did they?
pkk
November 21st, 2007, 06:19 PM
Then.....why didn't they?
Same reason some people consent to illegal searches, police abuse, and other injustices ... fear.
leminchyl
November 21st, 2007, 06:28 PM
Astonishing. Sometimes I am so glad I live in the UK.
depending who is our next president, i might move across the pond or up to canada. *dear god, please dont let it be another neocon*
as for the vaccinations, i see the point of them, but do we really need most of them these days? its been so long since i had one, i dont even know which ones they are shooting kids with nowadays.
IamJen
November 21st, 2007, 07:51 PM
Same reason some people consent to illegal searches, police abuse, and other injustices ... fear.
Some, perhaps. For some that were interviewed, it seemed to be more of a lack of motivation.
SallyK
November 22nd, 2007, 04:33 PM
Fascinating...and infuriating even though the original post seemed sensationalized. I had not heard about this. Thanks for posting it.
Silver
November 23rd, 2007, 12:13 PM
On Fox News they erroneously reported that... "A new law was passed last year requiring children from 5th through to 10th grade to have the vaccine". This is completely untrue. There is no law in the U.S. that requires mandatory vaccinations of any kind. The Fox report mentioned the waiver forms only after claiming that it is the law.
Question:How can there be a waiver form that allows someone to break a law?
This is why the parents who don't comply will be charged not under vaccination laws (because there aren't any) but under truancy laws.
The school itself triggered the truancy violation by unfairly kicking the kids out of school, and also failing to inform their parents about the vaccine waiver forms.
Powered by vBulletin™ Version 4.0.0 Beta 4 Copyright © 2009 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights