Bear Hunters(details a little graphic)

[808veggie]

Ok so today my mom shows me a picture of a man with a HUGE bear that he killed. Then my mom shows me a pic of a dead man that this bear "supposedly" killed. After being disgusted about the dead bear I shook my head and said, first off mom I've seen the dead man pic on another site and he actually was murdered and wild dogs tore his body to pieces not a bear. It was just a ploy to kill a helpless animal. Before I start ranting and raving about this--anyone else have an opionion?:confused: :(

[dk_art]

I saw footage of a bear in a tree with two hunters below with a bunch of their dogs (like 10). They shot the bear abunch of times and it fell to the ground where all the dogs grabbed onto the bear on all sides!


It was one of the worst things I've ever seen and it made me exceedingly angry.

It was on the news so I think it was footage concerning illegal hunting of bears that an under-cover "hunting guide" got.

[Jeffer]

Please do not call that type hunters. They are poachers!!
I get so sick and tired of being lumped together with scum bags like that.

Jeffer

[808veggie]

Well Jeffer what do you hunt? I don't feel so against it if the person is actually doing it to live off it and not for sport and I mean everything like Ted Nugent does. He doesn't go to the store for a hamburger patty and then decides to kill for food. According to him he never shops for meat and uses every part of the animal. Unlike my parents who hunt and still go to the super market for meat and discard a lot of the animal. :( They even have a "trophy" head in the living room. I hate it.

[Robert]

Jeffer / 808Veggie

Just a heads up folks... it is not a wise decision to start a "hunting discussion" in the support forums here. If you want to discuss hunting, or the terminology of same, I'd advise you to instead start a discussion thread in the Compost Heap.

[808veggie]

I really didn't mean for it to be a hunting discussion, just that this poor animal had no rights against a humans' ego. :(

[Robert]

808veggie... Oh I know... I was just giving you folks a heads up cause if it turns into a hunting discussion inside a "support forum", it is likely to get this thread locked by the mods or by Michael.

[808veggie]

I wish I had a pic of this bear for you guys/girls to see. It's paw was bigger than the "hunter's" head! I swear! I'm sure he felt like a real man after doing that. Even HUGE animals have rights! No matter how scary!

[Robert]

808veggie.... one of the places I'm a member of is called VitalGround.org

The guy who runs the place. Doug Seuss was the fellow who owned one these big grizzly bears, named Bart. You wanna see a big bear... go here:

http://www.vitalground.org/bart_the_bear.html

[808veggie]

My hair stood on end! What awe that bear will(would) put you in! I've got tears in my eyes thinking about that poor bear that was killed for sport...b@st@rds. :( :cry:

[That Alpaca Guy]

A hunter is a hunter.

And all such acts revolt me.

[beatyourmeat]

A hunter is a hunter.

That remark just shows how ignorant you are.....

[majake]

Originally posted by beatyourmeat
That remark just shows how ignorant you are.....

heh, well i guess we can mention that to the animals it doesnt matter what kind of hunter you are because they are still dead.

[That Alpaca Guy]

Originally posted by beatyourmeat
That remark just shows how ignorant you are.....

I know he is a troll and most likely will not be back, but still . . .

So you can give me a argument as to why it is not? It always amazes me how fast a hunter calls me ignorant. Really, most at lest try to call my 'buff' and get me into a debate they feel sure to win before they give up and call me ignorant.

[808veggie]

I guess Jeffer's never gonna tell us what kind of hunter he is exactly.

[Robert]

808..... yes he did.... browse the other forums ;)

[That Alpaca Guy]

I think thats what she meant . . .

[Tame]

Originally posted by That Alpaca Guy
So you can give me a argument as to why it is not? It always amazes me how fast a hunter calls me ignorant.

Well, gee, let's look at how you refer to them. Maybe the pot is talking to the kettle, eh?

[That Alpaca Guy]

As of yet not one hunter has given me an understandable reason for hunting.

(pot is talking to the kettle? WTF??)

[808veggie]

What Tame(my cool :cool:soul brother) meant was the kettle calling the pot black.

[Tame]

Originally posted by That Alpaca Guy
As of yet not one hunter has given me an understandable reason for hunting.



Maybe the reason is understandable, and you just aren't smart enough to get it.

You start with the notion that hunting is wrong - you cannot claim you even have a smidgen of an open mind. Nothing wrong with that, but don't act as if you are really open to anything the other side says.

[That Alpaca Guy]

Originally posted by Tame
Maybe the reason is understandable, and you just aren't smart enough to get it.

Or there is no understandable reason.



Originally posted by Tame
You start with the notion that hunting is wrong - you cannot claim you even have a smidgen of an open mind. Nothing wrong with that, but don't act as if you are really open to anything the other side says. [/B]

well . . . OK.
Can't argue with that.

(I still don't get the kettle calling the pot thing.)

[808veggie]

My arguement is that there are very FEW people who sole source of meat comes from hunting and fully use the carcass to it's extent. Like using fur for clothes, bones for weapons,etc....like I said before the only real "survivalist" I've heard of now days is Ted Nugent(the singer...Cat Scratch Fever..?)anyways, I have no problem with him hunting because that's exactly what he does- no other source for meat, uses all of the animal, etc.. That doesn't mean that I'm going to start hunting myself, I still think it is wrong for ME.