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*veggie4life*
May 23rd, 2007, 06:16 PM
Hello...

Well my mom made a statement the other day that was very eye-opening I guess you could say. I know it's kind of mean but I have a habit of calling my brother or mom "murderer" or "killer" or even "animal cruelty!" as they're eating some meat while I sit eating my vegetarian meal, whatever it may be. As they're eating their, I think it was steak the one night, and I was eating some veggie dinner, I was calling my brother "murderer" under my breath, and my mom gets really p-oed (sp?) whenever I do it, so after a while she says something like, "I'm starting to not appreciate how you act like you're better than us or something because you're veg."

I guess I'm acting like that, because in a way me, and any other veg*ns are better than meat-eaters. I just had to vent, but what do you think about this?? I feel an almost sense of pride everytime I pass up meat, and I guess it's just getting to me...:think:

entss8998
May 23rd, 2007, 06:45 PM
oooh thats not good, but i have been there... Its ok to feel proud of being veg*n just try not to rub others the wrong way. Remember you are reppin the stereotype of veggie people every where. and if we want people to see whats so great about bein veggie, bein pompous is definitly not one. I use to think i was better than meat eaters but than i realized we are all humans, and we all do what we think is right

Delano
May 23rd, 2007, 06:58 PM
Hello...

Well my mom made a statement the other day that was very eye-opening I guess you could say. I know it's kind of mean but I have a habit of calling my brother or mom "murderer" or "killer" or even "animal cruelty!" as they're eating some meat while I sit eating my vegetarian meal, whatever it may be. As they're eating their, I think it was steak the one night, and I was eating some veggie dinner, I was calling my brother "murderer" under my breath, and my mom gets really p-oed (sp?) whenever I do it, so after a while she says something like, "I'm starting to not appreciate how you act like you're better than us or something because you're veg."

I guess I'm acting like that, because in a way me, and any other veg*ns are better than meat-eaters. I just had to vent, but what do you think about this?? I feel an almost sense of pride everytime I pass up meat, and I guess it's just getting to me...:think:

I think you're being a little immature calling your family 'murderers'. In a sense, they're closer to cannibals than murderers, unless your family actively kills the animals for food. You probably ate meat at one point too, so it'd be a little hypocritical to view him as the enemy. Wouldn't it be better to see him instead as someone who's yet to be converted?

We aren't better than omnis. We just caught on to the right idea a little sooner. :)

ai_08
May 23rd, 2007, 09:04 PM
We aren't better than omnis. We just caught on to the right idea a little sooner. :)

well said.

while there's nothing wrong with being proud, we all know what hubris leads too. (sorry. too much english class, haha :P) why not just do a little victory dance in your head, instead of calling names. having the right diet sets a good example, sure, but presenting it in a positive manner is even better.

isowish
May 24th, 2007, 03:05 PM
I agree with the others who have posted before me. You can't expect to get away with calling people 'muderers'. I know I would be pissed off if someone called me 'slave trader' if I was wearing sweatshopped clothing, or 'wife beater' if I yelled at my girlfriend without a good reason. That kind of hyperbole does not win friends or allies.

CrAzYJoEe
May 26th, 2007, 12:01 AM
I dont think its a good idea to call your brother a murder o.0. I dont really try to push my beliefs on anyone, although me and my cousin exchange insults about what we eat. I call my parents murders for smoking infront of me lol

LucyintheSky
May 26th, 2007, 11:00 PM
I guess I'm acting like that, because in a way me, and any other veg*ns are better than meat-eaters.

Are you serious? eating meat is a CHOICE just like being veg is a CHOICE! and if you want people not giving you a hard time for making that choice then I think it's only fair you do the same in return. being veg does NOT make you better then anyone else. I hope you realise that! and that we are all people and we should come together as people and love eachother by exepting that everyone has different beliefs which you don't have to agree with but showing alittle respect would be nice, Thats what makes a good person imho.

peace and love

*veggie4life*
May 27th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Okay, okay. I know it's not right calling, it's mostly my brother, things like that. But it's because he watched Meet your Meat, or at least part of it, and still eats meat. Or I should say can still eat meat. And I've been trying in every way to make him feel bad whenever he eats it to make him go veggie. I'm going to give it up though, because as others have said it's his choice; it's everyone's choice on what they eat and don't eat. I'm also creating a bad reputation for other veg*ns. Sorry... I think I just need to learn to respect other people's views. Even if I don't like them... :(

LucyintheSky
May 27th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Don't worry about it as long as you stay true to your own beliefs and know that you can't change anyone who doesn't want to be changed. living by example is the best thing you can do. "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -Gandhi

Peace and love

nataliex1122
May 27th, 2007, 11:10 AM
Don't worry about it as long as you stay true to your own beliefs and know that you can't change anyone who doesn't want to be changed. living by example is the best thing you can do. "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -Gandhi

Peace and love
I was just going to reply with something like this! (I second her post):up: That's probably my favorite quote, I got it as my first tattoo.

Anyways, if you try to force your brother to go veg then chances are he'll just eat MORE meat in spite of you. He obviously is not interested in seeing why you're so passionate about vegetarianism yet. When he is, he'll probably come to you. I used to date someone who would constantly tease me about my veg*anism, so I told him to watch some video (forgot what it was) about factory farming. It just made him eat more meat to prove his "manly-ness". I stayed very quite about my veg*anism with my other friends, they learned about veg*anism on their own out of curiosity and three of them went vegetarian! So, I guess what I'm trying to say is just leave him alone about being a vegetarian, and if he decides it's not for him, then so be it.

Mr_Vegan
June 2nd, 2007, 11:08 AM
My view is that if you are disgusted at other peoples' beliefs, then don't say anything, but think it. I think of my family as disgusting, inferior beings with the way they eat, including meats. It's always comforting to think in your head that you are the closest ally you have, and that you are superior. Sounds narcisstic, sort of, but so be it.

gillian
June 10th, 2007, 08:54 PM
wow. alright, when i first went vegan my brother and sister used to eat their steak/burger/whatever and be like "mmmmmm animal" and wave it in front of my face. i pretty much wanted to kill them. that is pretty much what you are doing in reverse. you just need to get over the fact that your family doesn't care about the animals.. be proud of being veg but don't be a b**ch about it.

Scythe
June 11th, 2007, 01:08 PM
No wonder there are people who hate vegetarians...