Points out the hypocrisy of PETA. Anyone have any views on this?

Points out the hypocrisy of PETA. Anyone have any views on this?

With a url like that, it just has to be an unbiased look at PeTA, doesn't it?

Haha. Very true. I don't think they're as evil as the site is making them out to be, although some of the stuff is interesting. PETA does do a lot of good, in my opinion.

Alli - there are about a thousand threads on VB about PETA.

This (http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=50847) is the most recent one.

I would think that is is probably the CCF who is behind this website.

"PETA Kills Animals" is a project of the Center for Consumer Freedom (http://www.consumerfreedom.com/) (CCF)

What's my view? They're a bunch of losers.

Nothing but a lobbying group funded by the likes of Tyson Chicken, Steak & Ale, Philip Morris, etc. complaining that somebody else "kills animals."

That's so much irony you could choke on it.

Search this site and you'll find zillions of threads on CCF and what their motives are.

That's interesting. On the pics page, it shows the PETA folks were feeding Iams.

From their website (http://www.consumerfreedom.com/about.cfm).


The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition of restaurants, food companies, and consumers working together to promote personal responsibility and protect consumer choices.


:stinkeye:

Just what I thought. No axe to grind whatsoever.

:rolleyes:

The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition of restaurants, food companies, and consumers working together to promote personal responsibility and protect consumer choices.

Protect consumer choices from what? Changing? :rolleyes:

How come nobody wants to address the OP, i.e. is it true?

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Never looked at it. I always thought PeTA's animal-killing stats were open to the public anyway (though I forget where).

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I believe it was a joke. An amusing way of saying that Richard Berman, the Executive Director of the CCF, hasn't got an ethical fiber in his being.

How come nobody wants to address the OP, i.e. is it true?

Alli just asked if we had views not if it's true.

I have no way of telling if it's true, but when you consider those who are behind the site, I would take everything I read there with a grain of salt approximately the size of Colarado.

Richard Berman, as I have said, is the ED of the CCF. He cares about consumer choices in the same way that a personal injury lawyer who advertises on TV cares about his client's injury.

the other shelter where Animal Aide rescues animals from only adopts out about 4 animals a year, at least Peta's doing more than that. there just isn't any room or people to adopt animals nowadays. not all shelters can be no kill. it would be nice but it's just not possible. the shelter I work at is no kill but the cats live their lives in tiny cages and the shelter owners can hardly pay the bills each month. until people can learn to keep animal populations down by spaying/neutering many animals are going to be euthanized. that's my opinion anyway.

I have no way of telling if it's true...

You seem competent enough. I'd bet you do.

The case of the mistaken employees (Hinkle and some else was it) is well-known, as is the fact that PETA euthanizes a lot of animals who are not terminally ill etc. This has garnered a lot of criticism of PETA from inside the AR community - from those who actually give a **** about the situation, unlike Berman & co.

CCF pointing it out, even as a matter of internal consistency, shows no decency as usual, since they don't have any qualms with the pet industry causing this problem in the first place. Basically, society - because of the attitudes that CCF, Penn & Teller and others represent - dumps a giant problem at the animal organizations' feet and then has the audacity to complain how PETA tries to solve it.

The case of the mistaken employees (Hinkle and some else was it) is well-known, as is the fact that PETA euthanizes a lot of animals who are not terminally ill etc. This has garnered a lot of criticism of PETA from inside the AR community - from those who actually give a **** about the situation, unlike Berman & co.

CCF pointing it out, even as a matter of internal consistency, shows no decency as usual, since they don't have any qualms with the pet industry causing this problem in the first place. Basically, society - because of the attitudes that CCF, Penn & Teller and others represent - dumps a giant problem at the animal organizations' feet and then has the audacity to complain how PETA tries to solve it.
very well said :up:

not all shelters can be no kill. it would be nice but it's just not possible. the shelter I work at is no kill but the cats live their lives in tiny cages and the shelter owners can hardly pay the bills each month...

I volunteered at a no-kill shelter; I stopped when I adopted cats and rabbits of my own (from a kill shelter), partly because I was worried about bringing a disease home to my animals, but mostly because I was overdosing on litterbox cleanout. If the day comes when I no longer have adoptees of my own, I'd like to volunteer there again.

Anyway- our no-kill kept new arrivals in cages until we were sure they had no communicable diseases that might threaten the rest of the cats. There was a separate room for a small number of FIV+ or FeLV cats. But the rest of the cats were free to roam throughout the shelter once they had been integrated into the community. We had a few members who boarded cats in their homes, too, I think. But this shelter was basically a whole house or flat that the group rented; I don;t know if your group has the resources to do that.

I wish. we have a few roamers but many of our cats are feral or just don't like other cats. we have 150+ and are taking in new ones all the time. the shelter we rescue from euthanizes many cats in a day so we take as many as we can. we do have seperate rooms for sick cats and the rest (if we can) get their outside the cage time in a "playpen" where student volunteers give them cuddles and play with them. I mean we do our best with what we have but we don't have many volunteers.

I wish all shelters could be no-kill. I volunteer at a kill shelter, but they only euthanize if they have to (ie: EXTREME lack of space, terrible behavioral problems). When I say extreme lack of space, I mean that a dog has not had to be put down there due to lack of space in over 7 years.


Anyway, it would definitely be awesome if one day all shelters could be no-kill. Or if there could be no shelters at all.


Back to the PETA topic... I guess it seems to me that they just twisted the issue around, and I wondered what other people thought about it.

I have no way of telling if it's true, but when you consider those who are behind the site, I would take everything I read there with a grain of salt approximately the size of Colarado.

So they are like PeTA, but for opposite views?

So they are like PeTA, but for opposite views?
Yeah, but just not in the sense that PETA is funded by industry trade associations whose sole purpose is to advance the financial interests of the commercial, for-profit membership they represent in the consumer market. I don't know how much of a dollar contribution the fruit and vegetable growers' associations made to PETA last year, but it's probably in or around the $0 mark and United Soybean is too busy shoveling their product into rail cars for confined animal feedlots and growhouses to be bothered. Maybe I can find out how much AVAR donated to PETA.