Wow! An intelligent , well composed answer!!!
Thank you so much :)
.... I avoid the lower cost places generally... not through snobbish reasons, but I guess they are more.. "fast food" and like to churn out the food as quickly as possible, hence making more openings for error??? That is possibly just my preconception, but if I do eat out, I always follow recommendations.. however I guess no one can be completely 100% sure.
Thanx for liking what I had to say, and stuff.... :) God knows what the answer is to tell you the truth, but we can still share our woes etc! :hug:

Jen--let me know if my reply got to you. --Spider

QUOTE=VA~goth~UK]Who was/is Spiderman among you Spidergrrl? :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah…it’s hard to be married to Tobey Maguire.

[QUOTE=VA~goth~UK]Which might you bring along with you, your spider or your lizard ? :D Don't we get a choice?.....If not just bring both, to the table (not).

I looked for a picture of a spider to put on my avatar, but strangely that was not one of the options so i had to settle for a lizard. Since I am deathly allergic to animal fur a lizard is still in the acceptable range of animals I can touch without going into hospital. I have a large tattoo of a spider on my arm--does that count???

Well I hope you and your lizard or future lizard are happy then :D ....And I thought as for spiders you told us when you arrived at VB you had a real one?
(like a real pet tarantula or something, unless I'm mistaken?)

Charlotte has sadly gone to the big web in the sky. But she was old...about 6-8 years old. She was going bald on her abdomen (yes, even spiders go bald) and she was not climbing her tree as much anymore. But if we ever find another person who doesn't want their spider we will take it. Although I can't inagine why someone wouldn't want one. I had forgotten I mentioned that when I signed on.

hehe, sorry you lost it, but naturally so it seems.... LOL @ at "can't imagine/(understand??) why someone would not want one".....haha, thats cute!

If anybody is in the Yorkshire area that would like to meet up , please let me know , send me a Private Message will prob be eaiser.
My friends and I are always looking for new veggie&vegan friends.

There are a few of us going to EL PIANO in York this Wednesday night , 1st Nov for WORLD VEGAN DAY, very short notice but if anyone wants to join us then send me a Private Message so I can get the extra seats booked.There are already 6 of us going ,so more would be good esp as most going have not met each other or are new in town.

So what does EL PIANO look like? had this been this time last year, I was passing thru York, but not this year. :p Have a cool time, whichever of you are going.... and report back here, with any unreformed zombies you meet along the way, past their midnight dead-by-date, muhahahah.........

http://www.elpiano.co.uk/ this is their website :):bobo: :pibo: :vebo:

Rock on, and don't forget not to neglect any forsaken unrequited zombies on your way and from the venue... I run a shelther for zombies.....

Thanku dear select, for your kind co-operation, each zombie we impound, will safely be neutered ;)
until the next dawn aftermath.

Oh unless you'd like one to rent to play on the piano, they know a few bars ya know!... no bad for free anyway!

Cheers.

to go vegan: I'd have gone but haven't been on here for a while : (
I sent you a PM before reading this. Let us know how it goes once you've thawed off. Sheffield was freezing last night (sadly, i wasn't trick-or-treating)

I went out for a meal with my birthday with my fiance the other day. I had assumed there would be more than one veggie option on the menu!!
There wasn't there was ONE thing, in a menu of over 30 dishes (everyone of them contained meat!!!!). I thought that was awful. And the veggie option was something I didn't even like so I just basically ate all the lettuce on the side, and the vegs.. and a small bit of the veggie concoction.
I would have thought an eatery of this size would have had more than one veggie option on the menu.
There are no solely veggie restaurants where I live unfortunately. But that really rather annoyed me :(
I have learned my lesson, and only go to places I have been to many times before and know the veggie options available.

I find thatabsolutely shocking. Surely they'llhave had vegetarians before. Maybe the reason that they don't really cater for themis because they've scared most of them off.

Lilac MoonBeam---so sorry. That sucks. I expect that experience back in Louisiana where I'm from (the number of times I ate iceberg lettuce while the rest of the family was chowing down on plate loads of food astounds me) but I wouldn't expect it in the UK.

So sorry it was a disapointment. Don't know where you are, but in the future I heartily recomend 222VeggieVegan in London if you can get there. The food is to die for and everything is VEGAN.

Sorry to hear about that lilacmoonbeam, especially on your birthday. Maybe you guys can pick another restaurant and have a belated celebration. :) I am surprised too. Perhaps Scotland is different, but here down south, there are a couple of vegetarian options on the menus of even the smallest or the stuffiest places.

Oh LilacMoonbeam--didn't realise you were a Scotish lass. I second Jen's suggestion--go out and have another birthday dinner at a better place. Good luck and many (late) happy returns on the day of your birth.

Take a proper birthday trip to Edinburgh (you're not that far, are you?) and go to Henderson's or David Bann's. Henderson's is nice, and apparently Db's is fab. Never been though.

Good Luck!

pirate x

Hi all well I am an American living here in the UK down in the Cotswolds area and can I just say how refreshing it is to even be able to get veggie choices at almost all pubs etc here! Won't find that in America that is for sure! I have no idea what all those dang e numbers are though and saw the list of them but dang I am new to this veggie thing and that is too much for me to take in at the moment!
I agree with Mr Falafel though and try to not buy things that have ingredients I am not sure of!

Welcome to the UK. Most pubs these days offer a veggie choice and some will even give you a vegan dish if you phone before hand.

Pear girl--welcome. We sure have lots of Americans living in the UK (I am one, I am Jen---I'm sure there are others but I'm drawing a blank) Isn't it great to be able to get veggie food in public? And everything so well labled in shops. Where are you originally from in the US? Are you here to live permanantly or just to study? Welcome!

And everything so well labled in shops. Where are you originally from in the US?

I love love LOVE this about shopping in the UK. All sorts of things labeled "suitable for vegans". This is in the regular ol' grocery store, not some snooty hfs or anything. Way cool. :D

I know! I know! I still double check just in case it is wrong (and I have come across a few mistakes like a cheese bread by Hovis labled suitable for vegans:confused: ) but mostly I check the allergy list and if I see milk or egg I stop reading there. But the fact that there are labels--wow!

Oh and I wrote Hovis and explained the difference between vegan and veggie and mentioned rennet. They wrote back and said they were so sorry. Obviously it was not suitable for vegans but based on my description--not even suitable for veggies because of the animal rennet used. They had to put stickers on the bags until about 6 months later the label changed on the plastic bag.:doh:

Hey ladies thanks for the welcome. We are here until 2008 for my husbands job. So 18 more months approx.
I also love how stuff is labeled out in town it is great!

Oh and I wrote Hovis and explained the difference between vegan and veggie and mentioned rennet. They wrote back and said they were so sorry. Obviously it was not suitable for vegans but based on my description--not even suitable for veggies because of the animal rennet used. They had to put stickers on the bags until about 6 months later the label changed on the plastic bag.:doh:
Right on! One woman activism. :yes:

hey thanks guys for the bday messages :)
The birthday wasn't so bad really, there was other good stuff to make up for it in the end!
Usually in other restaurants I have been to, there are usually a good number of veggie options on the menu, which is why I thought this place would be the same =( the restaurant got bought over fairly recently and the old restaurant was much better, as they had loads and loads of veggie options. But it seems to be a meat-lovers paradise this place I went to, and I shall not be returning, shame it was a nice setting and it was nice inside.. shame about the meatyness of it =(
Well I shall be going out for lunch with a friend tomorrow, lets hope there are more choices in the place I'm going to.. there should be as I have been before ;)