Hi Starlight!

Hey, does anyone know if the new veggie patty from subway is vegan?

The veggie patty ain't nw. It's been kicking around for some time. I'm not sure of its status, but you could always get in touch withsubway: http://www.subway.co.uk

Hey, does anyone know if the new veggie patty from subway is vegan?

Yeh i know, they've just recently changed it haven't they.... i was having withdrawals when it was gone!

It was vegan in germany apparantly, when i was there, but i've never been sure about here in UK. Guess your best bet is to email them.

does anyone know anything about the greggs vegetable wrap, like if it is vegan?
its one of their new healthier options and its called 'fire roast vegetable wrap'...

I had to look them up, as we don't have Gregg's near here. I didn't see anything wrt ingredients on their website, but there is a contact form. I see that they are owned by the same folks as Baker's Oven. They proved to be quite helpful to me when we first moved here. They had a big binder with a list of all the ingredients in all of their products.

My mum asked when she bought me one I know its vegetarian (theyre good btw) but idk about vegan. Ask them and say youre really allergic to dairy/eggs? (cause then theyll actually find out save being sued!)

No, I'd just ask them if they have an ingredients list.

Lying about allergies = not cool, but that's a discussion for another thread. (it's a much debated subject here)

Yep, just email them. I emailed them to see if their donuts were vegan, and they weren't. Those grilled veggie wraps aren't really very nice anyways.

hi everyone , i started this thread http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=62071 a few days ago and it seems that the uk is a place where i'd like to live(language, culture, vegan friendly, no taxes on gambling income...). could you answer some of my questions from my last post in the thread or do you know anything about the procedures i'd have to go through to settle in the uk? cheers :hug:

Hello I'm new to the boards, and live in Dundee, Scotland!!!!

Have been looking over some threads in here, and noticed one about Greggs and bakers oven and stuff, just to let you know that the bakers oven here, has been taken over by Greggs... looks like Greggs bought them and are rebranding the stores... so your local Bakers Oven may change...

Since becoming veggie, I really have avoided places like Greggs, McDs, BK, ..... bakerys etc... as I assumed that they were all omni only.... and non-veggie..... (I've never liked greasy foods anyways)
I guess I just have this strange paranoia that any veggie options that are sold in a place that has meat products as their main stuff...will have bits of meat in them by mistake.. or other "animal stuff"...
am I the only one that thinks like this?? or am I being over-paranoid????

Lying about allergies = not cool, but that's a discussion for another thread. (it's a much debated subject here)

I guess!! How about 'intolerant' since technically you wouldnt want to tolerate eating it?

do you know anything about the procedures i'd have to go through to settle in the uk? at the moment everyones getting in! haha

I don't know how it will be for you since you are self employed. We had to find a school that was willing to sponsor us with a work permit (Spiderman's a librarian and I'm a teacher). That's how we got here. Good luck.

SG...may I ask what prompted you and the man to move to England. I'm only asking out of curiosity, so feel free to decline to answer. :)

Hello I'm new to the boards, and live in Dundee, Scotland!!!!
I guess I just have this strange paranoia that any veggie options that are sold in a place that has meat products as their main stuff...will have bits of meat in them by mistake.. or other "animal stuff"...

am I the only one that thinks like this?? or am I being over-paranoid????

Hiya!....... no you are not the only one that thinks like that, (at least I would tend to assume due to the many introspections I see about stuff on veg*n forums etc)......
I am pretty extreme as they get as concerns things like that, and remember paranoia exists in your mind for a reason, hardly a pleasant thing, but thats to help the mind make informed deicisions one way or another.... People like yourself if like me, may or may not come to terms with for instance eating out, but ways to deal are credible if dealt with wisely I guess. Paranoia about meat or being paranoid about anything is telling us I think that we are presented with kaos imposed on us which is some kind of threat to our lifestyle or even more intimately what we put into our bodies, and if the likes of us simply don't trust people to make the differentiation required to sort our needs between meat and veg or products potentially combining both, we do indeed have a quite a struggle, but I think also if choosing not to eat out where ambuiguity is rife, then that is half the battle and at least you can tell yourself that you've made a decision, both overall, and respectively, according to which outlets or eat-out places, (ETC) you have in mind. :)

Welcome, hope my comments helped empathize and stuff :) and I hope you are helped by comments to compose yourself and I wish that they compliment whatever your own thoughts are on the matter.

I love to tell the story...so are you sitting comfortably? Good. Then I'll begin.

The short version: We were disillusioned with America particularly Louisiana. We wanted to live a more spiritual, environmentally responsible life.

The looooooooooooooong version: Spiderman and I were exchange students in London for a semester in 1990 when we were undergrads before we were married. In fact, he asked me to marry him while we were in exchange students as it was our 1 year anniversary.:smitten:

We had both grown up in Louisiana and both felt increasingly uncomfortable with the racism and ecocentristic attitude of Christians (and we WERE christians...but there is no room for other religions in La. "Either you believe in Jesus the way I believe in Jesus or you worship the devil" sort of attitude) we both immediatly fell in love with England. It felt like home in a way La never had. There was so much to do--history, plays, art, lectures--everywhere you looked there was something amazing to do and see and talk about. There were loads of different types of people. Lots of cultures/religions/languages. It was amazing. We vowed on the night he proposed that someday we would return.

We visited on holiday here a few times and each time it felt more and more like where we wanted to be. In 2002 for our 10th wedding anniversary we spent a month living in Cardiff taking master levels classes in children's literature/illustration in an exchange with Hollins University. That is what made up our mind. That and the fact that we found what we looking for spiritually--we had long become disillusioned with mainstream Christianity (especially southern baptists) and had quit going to church. But when we were in cardiff we attened the Quaker meeting house and these gentle people won our hearts. Quakers offered us a change to sit quietly in the pressence of God without fire and brimstone preachers shouting at us. it allowed us to be more Unitarian than trinitarian and look at Jesus' works and not argue over divinity. It gave us a chance to meet other activists and vegetarians. this is where we became veg*ns. We also were really feeling so wasteful and that we were not doing enough to help the environment ---you couldn't recycle where we lived and you had to drive to get anywhere. We both had a car and felt terrible about it.

It was a glorious month and we decided upon our return that we would move overseas. Thomas would look for a job and get sponsored and I would get a job when we moved. It took a year of job hunting before we decided to contact an agency. We had hoped to do it ourselves but every interview over the phone ended with the same comments --that Spiderman was the best candidate for teh job but as he was American so therefore any other EU person had to be considered first--regardless of the fact that he was better. sigh...............so we got on with an agency and went through inveriews over the phone. As we knew this would get us there, we sold our house, 2 cars and most of our furniture except our mattress and a few other things and lived in a garage flat that was $100 a month to save up for the move. In december we got a call and a successful interview and we moved January 1st. That was 3 years ago.

Our first placement was horrible--at the "worst school in Britain" who had less than 4% c or better GCSEs for 5 years running. They had hired 25 new teachers from all over the world (because no one british was dumb enough to go there) I got hired too and we spent 7 months in hell with violent illiterate children. Boys used to masterbate in my class and then throw their spunk on girls and management did nothing. :mad: Because they were the dumb ones and management said only worry about the 25 targeted kids who will pass some GCSEs. Spiderman had a boy throw a computer out his window. I finally quit when a girl assaulted me and put me in a half nelson and broke my glasses and all she got was a 3 day exclusion. It was a really strange time as we had a nice unfurnished flat and an air mattress and a radio and the box the radio came in as our only furniture for 3 months. But although the school was horrible it paid well enough to buy a real bed and furniture and a washing machine within 6 months.

But...being in the country meant Spiderman could interview for other jobs. And in July he interviewed and got this amazing job as librarian in Hitchin at an all Boys school. His library is an historical building with stained glass windows and a huge budget for author visits. I managed to score an excellent part time job working at the primary school accross the street working with kids whose home language is not English or who are new to the country and speak no English. And there is a Quaker meeting house right by our schools. So now we live modestly, with no cars. We walk everywhere. We can recycle and we have a market twice a week to buy fresh fruit and veg so as vegans we are happy.

So.......a very long telling of our tale. But we couldn't be happier. And Spiderman has had his work permit renewed for 2 more years and in 2 more years we can apply for citizenship. Which will mean we can be more involved in protests. Several Quakers from our meting house are going to Glasgow, risking arrest, to a sit in against nuclear arms. We can't risk arrest as we might be deported. but in 2 years....maybe we can join them.

Here endeth the lesson.

Wow! Thanks for posting that. It's an awesome story (with the exception of the school from Hell, of course). It sounds like you guys have really found a place that speaks to you. :)

Well, everything in life can be viewed as an opportunity to experience. The bad school was bad, but we made enough £ quickly to get basic things we needed. We also had 23 other people in the same situation so we made friends quickly because all of us had the class from hell. Spiderman and I tend to be very shy and slow to meet people because it mostly involves alcohol and smoking, but we made friends right away. And we've all moved onto different schools but still meet up in London once term to go out to eat and then we leave when everyone else goes to the pub afterwards.

So even good things come from bad. And if we hadn't been there we couldn't have gotten here.

And here is a great place.:up:

Who was/is Spiderman among you Spidergrrl? :D

Hiya!....... no you are not the only one that thinks like that, (at least I would tend to assume due to the many introspections I see about stuff on veg*n forums etc)......
I am pretty extreme as they get as concerns things like that, and remember paranoia exists in your mind for a reason, hardly a pleasant thing, but thats to help the mind make informed deicisions one way or another.... People like yourself if like me, may or may not come to terms with for instance eating out, but ways to deal are credible if dealt with wisely I guess. Paranoia about meat or being paranoid about anything is telling us I think that we are presented with kaos imposed on us which is some kind of threat to our lifestyle or even more intimately what we put into our bodies, and if the likes of us simply don't trust people to make the differentiation required to sort our needs between meat and veg or products potentially combining both, we do indeed have a quite a struggle, but I think also if choosing not to eat out where ambuiguity is rife, then that is half the battle and at least you can tell yourself that you've made a decision, both overall, and respectively, according to which outlets or eat-out places, (ETC) you have in mind. :)

Welcome, hope my comments helped empathize and stuff :) and I hope you are helped by comments to compose yourself and I wish that they compliment whatever your own thoughts are on the matter.


Wow! An intelligent , well composed answer!!!
Thank you so much :)
.... I avoid the lower cost places generally... not through snobbish reasons, but I guess they are more.. "fast food" and like to churn out the food as quickly as possible, hence making more openings for error??? That is possibly just my preconception, but if I do eat out, I always follow recommendations.. however I guess no one can be completely 100% sure.

Okay, now that we've got a lively groups of vegetarians in the UK..is anyone up for a meetup?

The Christmas Without Cruelty Fayre is coming up in London in a few weeks. If anyone is interested in going, we're thinking about attending too. I'm open for other ideas too!

Oops! I forgot the link:
http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/ACTIVE/demo_organiser/ALL/564//

Jen, I'm up for it (at the mo - have to check the diary). :santa:

Let me check my calendar. It would probably be just me as Spiderman gets really nervous in large crowds. The thronging masses at the Veggie Roadshow made us both really skittish. But it does look like fun.

We spent the day in Cambridge yesterday visiting the Fitzwilliam museum to see this exhibit on 19th century book illustration and then 8 of the country's top children's illustrators were doing a book signing at a bookshop. We ate at this *amazing* cafe called the Rainbow cafe. http://www.vegetariancafe.co.uk/

It was all veggie, over half vegan and much of it gluten free. And prices were very good. We ate there lunch and then dinner as well. We had a vegan chocolate mint cheesecake that i would love to learn to replicate. We would have eaten 2 more slices at dinner if they hadn't sold out.:hungry:

It was brilliant. too bad we don't get up the Cambridge way too often. But we'll remember this when we go again.

Which might you bring along with you, your spider or your lizard ? :D Don't we get a choice?.....If not just bring both, to the table (not).

As for being skittish, respect for just the word alone, it describes well some of my trepidations going to events too Spidergrrl! .....hence why I've never been seen! :no: