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After three years in Iraq.
After thousands of dead and injured soldiers; and still counting.
After billions of dollars spent, not on rebuilding Iraq, but on the war itself; and still counting.

One would pause for a minute and ask oneself with complete honesty;
Shall we get out of Iraq?

Well yeah I think we should get out and yes Iknow it's complicated after all we as a country went to war with this country and turned there country into a battle ground I know they were ruled by a monster and that is horrible:( but there are countless monsters running countries our president led us into a war with lies and that pisses me off my niece has to go back to Iraq in august and that scares me she was there for a year and half and now she has to go back .She tells me she just doesn't get why we are over there and that is sad to ask young people to die and for what?

I don't think it's a question of choice anymore. I don't think we have a free choice as to if we should stay or go. It's gotten far too complicated now, with too many different problems. It's more about whether or not we can begin to fix any of the problems and how to do that, but with our current administration, I honestly do not think that will happen. I don't see anything positive happening anytime soon.

I would love for us to leave, but it will not happen. I don't think it would be right if it's in Iraq's and the surrounding region's best interest for us to say, and we leave... seeing as how the US started this whole mess.

Hell yes - shouldn't have gone in the first place. But then I'm not American.

Regardless of my opinion of going to Iraq in the first place, the U.S. made a mistake by staying to clean up.

I think the troops need to stay until the job is finished. Leaving and quitting is not an option at this point, IMO.

I agree-- we never should have been there in the first place, but now that we've wrecked the place, we can't just bug out.

Actaully I have to agree with you guys, having made the mess, it really should be cleaned up. I just don't know how this can be done when it seems that foreign troops still being there is really aggravating the situation.

USA shouldn't have intervened in the first place - that's the job of the UN. Of course, I see this from the outside. But it wasn't right to do such a thing - just butting into a foreign country with seemingly no respect for local beliefs, traditions etc. But, there's a terrorist behind every Bush.... *sigh*

Should have never went in the first place.

Hell yes - shouldn't have gone in the first place. But then I'm not American

I second this and I am american

The question to me is (and not talking about whether they should have gone or not, because that's too late now to change) is: Is their (American AND British) presence part of the problem, or part of the solution? There is probably no absolute black/white "yes" or "no" answer. But when put on the scales, which will be heavier? Part of the solution? Or part of the problem?

I think the answer is "part of the problem".

But I am not sure that what is occuring there is a problem for the American administration (perhaps a bit more for the British). I wonder sometimes if this is not JUST what they were hoping for... But I think some of the generals and military high-ups must be quite pissed off.

Hell yes - shouldn't have gone in the first place. But then I'm not American.

please, please, please don't assume that because i'm american i think any american troops ever should have gone there!

USA shouldn't have intervened in the first place - that's the job of the UN.


And what a smashing job the UN always does! Darfur, Rwanda, the list just goes on!

We can't ask the innocent casualties of the war what their opinion is but I bet I know the answer. There's a special layer in hell reserved just for Bush, yep I said it. :devil:

Civilians reported killed by military intervention in Iraq
Min Max
37918 42288
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

American Deaths Date Total In Combat
Since war began (3/19/03): 2460 1983
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03) 2323 1886
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 1995 1677
Since Handover (6/29/04): 1594 1351
Since Election (1/31/05): 1024 866
American Wounded Official Estimated
Total Wounded: 17648 18000 - 48100
http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/

Regardless of my opinion of going to Iraq in the first place, the U.S. made a mistake by staying to clean up.

I think the troops need to stay until the job is finished. Leaving and quitting is not an option at this point, IMO.

What, exactly, is "the job?"

What, exactly, is "the job?"

Very pertinent question indeed.

No we (in my case "we" being Australia) should not have gone there, oh mysterious one.

Thanks to our new government, who is just a little bit less eager to lick GWB's behind, all of the 150(!) Norwegian troops have been withdrawn. There's a long list of other countries which have also pulled out or are pulling out in the near future. That means the USA and UK might end up having to pay the bill themselves. And it has been a very, very expensive party...

Part of the reason why the insurgence continues is the presence of foreign troops. The Iraqi government is perceived as collaborators, and therefore their people (politicians, bureaucrats, policemen, soldiers) are seen as valid targets. If all troops were withdrawn, there would be less reason to and support for attacks on these government representatives. Which would be nice, at least if the goal really is a viable Iraqi state.

well duh. what a waste of our time. who cares about those losers lol?

Speaking of Iraq, did anyone read in the paper today that some tennis players and coach were gunned down by Islamic fundamentalists for the crime of wearing shorts?

well duh. what a waste of our time. who cares about those losers lol?

Besides all of the US bs, it is not right that you call a whole country losers. :rolleyes:

Did you read about the Haditha massacre yet? 24 civilians massacred by US marines. Nasty.

Speaking of Iraq, did anyone read in the paper today that some tennis players and coach were gunned down by Islamic fundamentalists for the crime of wearing shorts?

No, but I just read about a bigot who feels that the actions of a few religious people represent the nature a country.

:wayne:

And then there's the Ishaqi (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5039714.stm) incident. I guess it's not really a big deal, since it was only 11 civilians this time. (5 of whom were children and 4 were women.) And after all, the US troops had received a tip-off that there was an al-Qaeda supporter in the house.