SD and I are in SJ and would probably be down for a Santa Cruz meeting. I'd love to meet other VBers

muzicfan-i think that would be fun, but i'm about five hours from santa cruz (but I want to go to school there), and I don't drive.

Has anyone here tried the Galoka in LJ, San Diego? Wow, that place was good, we went there last night.

100% Vegetarian, and mostly vegan restaraunt. I found them through vegdining.com, they give discounts there too if you get a membership card. I'm gonna have to get me one. Here's the website with the restuarant,
http://www.vegdining.com/GetRest.cfm?rk=US-CA-SD-GALOK

Oh, and I'm in San Diego, La Jolla area.

*EDIT
I found their actual website, http://www.galoka.com. Be sure to look at their menu... yum :)

mmm found a good place for south east asian food with lots of veg'an options in SJ. www.lombok.us

SD and I will post on how it was later, as we are going there tonight.

Is anybody on here going to the vegetarian meetup in orange county on wednesday?

Well, I'm new to this board, so I figured I would say "hi". hi. I'm a California native, currently residing in Huntington Beach. I just wanted to see if anyone else is still checking out this particular area anymore, see who else is in or around OC, and throw this in to boot :vebo:

Welcome aboard Socrates.

Toto

Hey VeganDan. I'm in Costa Mesa, not too far from you. :)

Welcome to the boards!

Found a card for this place at our fav vegan fast food place. It's in the city and the website looks coo. They sais they are setting up a way to order via the internet.

Otsu
3253 16th Street
SF, Ca 94103
(415) 255-7900
866 hey otsu
info @veganmart.com
www.veganmart.com
store hours
Wed. - Sun. Noon to 7pm
Mon. - Tues. by appointment

Did anyone see that movie about the collapsed bridge in West Virginia which was dedicated on May 28, 1928? It collapsed at the same time as the Nimitz Freeway double decker viaduct collapsed during the World Series Oakland quake of 1989, 5 PM during the 1st pitch of the 3rd game of the World Series.

Did anyone see that movie about the collapsed bridge in West Virginia which was dedicated on May 28, 1928? It collapsed at the same time as the Nimitz Freeway double decker viaduct collapsed during the World Series Oakland quake of 1989, 5 PM during the 1st pitch of the 3rd game of the World Series.

From www.indiatimes.com:

50 feared killed as bridge collapses in Daman

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ THURSDAY, AUGUST 28, 2003 08:27:22 PM ]

SURAT: A narrow iron bridge over Damanganga river in the Union territory of Daman collapsed around 1.30 pm on Thursday, killing several people, most of them school children when the Maruti vans and auto-rickshaws carrying them back home plunged into the river at its confluence with the sea.



About 20 bodies had been recovered by 7.45 pm, 19 of them school children. One Maruti van, ten motorcycles and three auto-rickshaws were also fished out. The administration opened a counter for people to list names of missing persons and 52 names were registered by evening, all of them residents of Daman. Officials, however, said there could also be some tourists among the casualties.



Daman municipality President Vishal Tandel said, "The death toll could be 25 or more."



Daman District Panchayat President Taruna Patel, who was at the spot, said, "Forty-five students of the Fatima High School are still missing."



The chief of Daman Police, Ram Nivas Meena, said only 5 children could be rescued from the swirling waters.



The river is 40 feet deep at the location where the bridge has partially collapsed, making rescue operations difficult.



The bridge is the only link between Nani Daman on the mainland, and Moti Daman, an island where all government offices are located in old Portuguese buildings.



Hardik Shah, a witness, said the injured were admitted to hospitals in Daman and neighbouring Vapi, which falls in Gujarat. He said fishermen were the first to jump into the waters to rescue the victims. Most of the victims were students of the reputed Fatima High School located in Moti Daman and anxious parents from Nani Daman rushed to the site. Many of them broke down crying on finding no trace of their children.



Abdul Kadar Popat, a rickshaw driver who was ferrying 12 children back home from school, managed to swim ashore after his vehicle went down with the children. Now admitted to the Marwad Hospital in Devka and in a state of shock, he said only two children from his vehicle could be rescued while ten others are missing.



One of the survivors, Neha Mustafa (13) said she managed to stay afloat in the water only because of the empty water bottle which was hanging around her neck. Neha, a student of 9th class who was also returning from school in a rickshaw, said, "It was raining heavily when the bridge just vanished from beneath us and we suddenly found ourselves in water."



At least two vans, four auto-rickshaws and about 10 to 12 two-wheelers plunged into the river when the bridge built by the Portuguese and repaired about 20 years back collapsed.



Coast Guard personnel and local agencies are carrying out operations to locate the bodies even as a huge crowd gathered on either side of the fallen bridge. Helicopters have been deployed in rescue operations.



The 300-metre-long bridge is an extremely narrow one and allows only one-way traffic. The bridge was in dilapidated condition, local residents said. According to them, several representations had been made in the past to strengthen it.



The collapsed portion -- 90 meters of the bridge -- was without any columns and was made of iron as no foundation could be built due to improper soil conditions. The rest of the bridge, which was built with RCC, is still in tact.

from www.eqe.com

The October 17, 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake
October 1989


Conclusion

Little of the damage in this earthquake was unexpected to the engineering and technical communities. Typically, unreinforced masonry structures, older tilt-up buildings, and poorly designed wood-frame houses in the epicentral region were heavily damaged, while damage farther away from the epicenter was to high-risk structures on soft and saturated soils.

The significance of this earthquake is the warning it delivered of the dangers faced by people, governments, and businesses in seismically active areas. The message was delivered live, to the millions in the nation and the world tuned to the World Series. The subsequent dramatic coverage provided by the news media on hand for the event was unprecedented for any previous earthquake. With such attention, it is hoped that preparedness efforts will be similarly stimulated and will continue at a high level.

There is the concern, however, that many building owners in the Bay Area may conclude that the survival of their buildings in this somewhat distant, but strong earthquake certifies their structure as earthquake safe. In many cases, nothing could be further from the truth. For example, thousands of unreinforced masonry buildings, pre-1975 tilt-ups, and poorly engineered structures survived the earthquake with no apparent damage. A larger quake or one that is closer to San Francisco, San Jose, or Oakland would have produced dramatically different results.

It is interesting to note that in October 1865, a strong earthquake struck virtually the same section of the San Andreas Fault (in the Santa Cruz Mountains) with similar effects to the same areas. This quake was then followed three years later, in October 1868, by one of the largest earthquakes to occur on the Hayward Fault near Oakland. Finally, the "big one" struck in 1906 with a magnitude of 8.3 on the San Andreas Fault, devastating Northern California and destroying much of San Francisco. It should be understood that the recent earthquake did not lower the probability of another major earthquake or the "big one" occurring in the next 30 years. Based on past history (1865, 1868) there is speculation that there actually may be greater seismic activity in the future.

Some of our observations and conclusions following this earthquake include:


Outside the epicentral region, damage was sporadic and occurred mainly to older structures with little seismic capacity and to structures with known vulnerabilities in areas of extremely weak soils.


Within the epicentral region, there were few surprises. Damage was widespread, particularly in Hollister, Santa Cruz, Watsonville, and Los Gatos. Most of the buildings affected were unreinforced masonry, poorly designed or constructed wood-frame houses, and structures designed to antiquated building codes.


Many of the buildings that were damaged in downtown San Francisco and Oakland were older, mid-rise structures, leading us to believe that frequency content of the ground motion coincided with the building frequency (period), resulting in amplified motions.


Many buildings outside the epicentral region that appear to be seismically inadequate, including unreinforced masonry buildings, pre-1975 tilt-ups, poorly designed wood-frame buildings, and buildings with known vulnerabilities appear to have come through the earthquake unscathed or with minor damage, leading us to believe that the ground motions in these areas were fairly low. These buildings should, however, be carefully reviewed and monitored for structural damage. These structures may have been weakened and aftershocks or ground compaction may cause significant damage. Specific areas include San Francisco's Chinatown and Tenderloin districts, San Jose, and Santa Clara Valley's high-tech industries.


In general, the newer buildings performed well; however, this earthquake did not provide the severe ground motions to adequately test them, outside the general epicentral area.


Many corporations have embarked on earthquake risk reduction programs and have strengthened some or all of their buildings. This earthquake illustrated the value of these programs.


This earthquake was a major disaster. While engineers and seismologists had expected such an event, society in general was not prepared for it. As in most disasters, however, people responded well helping put out fires, assisting the injured, and helping each other.


The primary cause of death was the collapse of the Cypress overpass. Excluding this tragedy, the number of deaths was very low considering the earthquake's magnitude, the population of the area affected, and the time at which it occurred.


The disaster potential in California is at least 10 times greater today than in the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake because of the population and economic development.


Although this earthquake is considered a major disaster, similar risks exist in such areas as Puget Sound, the region centered on New Madrid between St. Louis and Memphis, the region around Charleston, the Salt Lake City region, and others. Given the regional similarities in earthquake potential, building types, and the absence of earthquake preparedness programs, the possibility for an earthquake with consequences of comparable or much greater proportions in other parts of the country is realistic. While such disasters are feared by the U.S. earthquake engineering community, society in general has not accepted the fact that the risk exists.


Many buildings, structures, and infrastructures that have been designed and constructed with little resistance to earthquake motions are still in use in California and other seismically active regions of the United States. Private corporations and governments at all levels in these areas must make important political and economic decisions on reducing the risk from such structures in order to prevent the kinds of serious damage observed in this earthquake. Whether through retrofitting or new design and construction, resolution of the problem can be cost-effective and practical, if a long-range, consistent program is implemented.


This earthquake demonstrated the need to increase education, awareness, and preparedness at all levels of government and private industry. Mitigation programs should be accelerated to include preparedness planning, response and recovery planning, engineering vulnerability studies, and retrofit of hazardous buildings and structures.


Fire fighters, police officers, and other emergency personnel responded extraordinarily well to the catastrophe. The only major San Francisco fire was in the Marina district, but when combined with the 34 other fires and over 500 responses, the department was taxed to its full capabilities. The Marina fire was difficult to contain because mains supplying water to the district burst during the earthquake. If more fires had been ignited by the earthquake, it would have been difficult for the fire department to contain them.


The local media also deserves special commendation for the calm, informative, and responsible reporting immediately following the earthquake and in the days after. By diligent work and measured reactions, the local media kept the public informed of both the breaking stories and the underlying causes of the disasters.


Power and industrial facilities generally fared well during the earthquake with very little permanent damage. Several power-generating or power transmission facilities lost power during the earthquake. The earthquake-induced failures that caused these power outages are typical of those that have been observed in most major earthquakes

Despite the various problems, officials and experts are quick to point out that this earthquake could have been far worse. Engineers continue to improve building codes, particularly in California, to incorporate improved seismic design. However, there are still many seismically vulnerable structures that need to be dealt with. This is particularly true outside of California.

In terms of response, years of planning and drilling enabled police and fire departments to respond quickly and efficiently to what could have been a safety planner's ultimate nightmare--a major earthquake during rush hour and the World Series.

The information in this summary has been presented from the viewpoint that performance under actual earthquake conditions is the best test of seismic reliability of equipment and structures. It is in this spirit that EQE continues to actively investigate the behavior of engineered structures in earthquakes and to disseminate our findings in reports such as this.

Special thanks and recognition should be given to EQE's staff, whose extraordinary efforts made this report possible. Simultaneously investigating the earthquake effects while helping our clients remain operational by inspecting their buildings; a truly outstanding job was done. The investigations used in this report were completed within seven days after the earthquake.

The information presented in this report should be considered preliminary. Further investigation in the weeks and months to come may alter the initial conclusions. EQE will continue its research on this earthquake and will issue additional papers and reports in the future.

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SD and I found a new super yummy veg'an place to eat in SJ. It's called Di-Lac and is Vietnamese and Thai and is cheap as well. None of the items have beef, poultry, seafood , pork or egg in it. They have pro vegetarian stickers up at the counter and the waiters all know what vegan is. If you tell them you're vegan they will replace the dairy in any of the drinks with soy. There are a number of soy drinks anyways and the tofu and soymilk are made fresh daily. We had shark fin soup, curried shrimp and vegetables, curried claypot eggplant, sweet and sour chicken and brown rice. It's cheap too with dinners ranging about $10. The address is 1644 East Capitol Expressway in San Jose (408) 238-8686 and the website is http://www.dilac.com

I read in a veg magazine that Juliano of Raw restaurant in S.F. has opened up a restaurant in the Los Angeles area.

Juliano did open a restaurant in Santa Monica recently. Here's the link http://www.rawrestaurant.com/

It's gotten good reviews so far.

Juliano did open a restaurant in Santa Monica recently. Here's the link http://www.rawrestaurant.com/

It's gotten good reviews so far.

I just heard about this the other day! I think I'll have to try it out this weekend!

I live up in Humboldt, and am going to San Fransisco for Dia de los Muertos. I'm going with my schools Spanish club. We are staying in a youth hostel. My only concern with this trip (aside from how I am going to survive a 6 hour bus ride. again) is food. I have never really been to San Fransisco, and don't know how easy it will be for me to find food that I can eat. I'm not sure if there will be health food store where I am staying, so I am wondering if SF has vegan food in normal grocery stores. I'm guessing I will just end up bringing my own food like I have done on previous trips to cities, but it would be nice to have some options.

Oh, boy. Here comes the governator. All I can say is, don't blame me. I voted for Camejo. I just hope Schwarzenegger actually pulls this off, not because I'm a fan of his, but because I want what's best for this state if we're going to stay here after my wife graduates. Everyone here (of legal age) vote?

:cry:

I voted for Comejo, too.
I'm scared out of my mind, quite frankly. Ugh.

GO ARNOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I couldn't vote sadly, but frankly, it's Camejo who scares me :)

I think a fiscally responsible, successful businessman is what a state needs in this situation (actually I believe it's not a bad choice for any state/country in any situation).

Just as a side note, how cool would it be if Arnie would help to legalize pot! Imagine. A republican governor against the war on drugs, hehe.

I'm shocked at you, Oatmeal. Do you know the first thing about Camejo?

He did a fund for Merrill Lynch that became the first pro-environmental fund of any major firm, and it was their second best performer. And he made them give part of the profits to the environmental movement. He quit them over an issue of support to the AIDS Foundation. He wanted to do a program to benefit the AIDS Foundation, and they would let him do it for the American Heart Association, but they wouldn’t let him do it for the AIDS Foundation, so he quit over that. He went to Prudential, who said he could do it, and then once they had hired him, they told him they weren't going to let him do it. So Pete, with seven other people, set up a firm (Progressive Asset Management Incorporated) which now has offices in 16 states, and they manage about a billion dollars. That's what he actually does for a living, Oatmeal.

Just as long as Davis is out of office and Boustamonte (sp??) is not in, I'm happy.

Just as long as Davis is out of office and Boustamonte (sp??) is not in, I'm happy.
My exactements too Captain!

Yay for Arnie!... :hamster: and down with blarney! :D

My exactements too Captain!

Yay for Arnie!... :hamster: and down with blarney! :D


Are you guys really hearing about this all the way over in the UK? :)

It's gonna be a long 3 years...