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Diana
05-13-06, 02:38 PM
Vivisection is torture, inhuman, cruel and degrading treatment.

If the animal gets killed in the process, it is Murder.

Mark Twain said:

I believe I am not interested to know whether Vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't. To know that the results are profitable to the race would not remove my hostility to it. The pains which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity towards it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. It is so distinctly a matter of feeling with me, and is so strong and so deeply-rooted in my make and constitution, that I am sure I could not even see a vivisector vivisected with anything more than a sort of qualified satisfaction. I do not say I should not go and look on; I only mean that I should almost surely fail to get out of it the degree of contentment which it ought, of course, to be expected to furnish.
- Letter to London Anti-Vivisection Society, May 26, 1899

And Gandhi said:

I abhor vivisection with my whole soul. All the scientific discoveries stained with innocent blood I count as of no consequence.

I cannot but agree with them. It is time to put an end to this revolting and sadistic practice. By all the means available to us.

Vivisection is Murder.

Sevenseas
05-13-06, 03:11 PM
(Someone should correct the 1st word in the title of this thread.)

Seems that G.B.Shaw wrote a lot (http://www.ivu.org/history/shaw/vivisection.html) on the topic.
"Vivisection is a social evil because if it advances human knowledge, it does so at the expense of human character."
"Let us, then, taking the question on the utilitarian ground, admit that vivisections either have added or at some future time may add to our knowledge of disease and to our knowledge of the secrets of nature. But the next step in the argument is that experiments upon dogs and guinea-pigs and creatures equally unlike men and women can never be as conclusive as experiments on men and women. On the one hand, you are asked, are you going to set a few 'moments' pain to a rabbit against the hygienic salvation of the human race? Well, are you going to set a few moments' anguish on the part of your baby against it? Are you going to set a few moments' anguish to anybody on earth against it?"

Red
05-13-06, 08:59 PM
"Morals are not the important thing--nor enlightenment--nor civilization. A man can do absolutely well without them, but he can't do without something to eat. The supremest thing is the need of the body, not of the mind and spirit."
- Mark Twain, A Biography

"It is my belief that nearly any invented quotation, played with confidence, stands a good chance to deceive."
- Mark Twain, Following the Equator

purrpelle
05-13-06, 09:37 PM
shebang.

Sevenseas
05-14-06, 02:03 AM
"It is my belief that nearly any invented quotation, played with confidence, stands a good chance to deceive."
- Mark Twain, Following the EquatorI don't think that has much bearing on the vivisection quotes.

Red
05-14-06, 06:45 AM
I don't think that has much bearing on the vivisection quotes.

Men think they think upon the great political questions, and they do; but they think with their party, not independently; they read its literature, but not that of the other side.

Mark Twain

Sevenseas
05-14-06, 07:08 AM
That's very true.

Who put the bomp in the bomp-a-bomp-a-bomp?
Who put the ram in the ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong?
Who put the bop in the bop sh-bop sh-bop?
Who put the dip in the dip da dip da dip?
-Barry Mann

SavedbytheBlood
05-22-06, 03:13 AM
:lol: Sevenseas.