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trishya3333@hot
05-04-06, 02:33 PM
HELP!, this is my first post and I am trying to find humanly treated meat lists.
I'm not willing to go completely veggie but do want to cut down and only buy from 'good' companies. I have been searching the web but to no avail. I thought about emailing PETA and asking for a 'grey' area since I found most of their info to be very extreme, but chickened out. (ha ha)
So here I am on a veggie web forum trying to find ANY info on WHO produces well treated and humanely killed meat. There must be a list somewhere. Can't hurt to ask. I found this sight during one of my searches and came looking for a topic called goodhearted omnis, which is what I think I am, but I couldn't find it.
I would truly apreciate any help, info!
I don't know of any corporate sources. I don't eat corporate meat anymore, only homegrown. Friends have suggested the local butcher, but I don't know how "humane" he is - if there is livestock production in your local area, there may be local butchers/meat lockers who can help you. There may also be local producers in your area who butcher their own animals. Look into organic farms in your area, or other small farms.
organica
05-04-06, 02:42 PM
It's much easier to go veggie than to find "humane" meat, so why not try it?
Couldn't hurt.
In any case, many of us on this board belive *all* meat is inhumane & procured by murder.
I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but I seriously doubt you're going to get much help in this area on a vegetarian message board.
It's much easier to go veggie than to find "humane" meat, so why not try it?
Couldn't hurt.
I agree. Also much less expensive. Be aware any "humane" meat you can find will probably be extremely expensive, as it should be.
kpickell
05-04-06, 03:00 PM
You probably won't find what you're looking for. It's just much too cost prohibitive to produce humane meat. You could find organic meat, and free-range meat, and kosher meat, but none of those really involve humane farming methods. I'd say your best bet would be to go to a farmer's market and see if any local small-scale operations near you sell meat. The smaller the operation the more likely they are to be somewhat more humane in the way they raise and keep their animals. Unfortunately as other's have said it's generally much more expensive, and that's why so many people on conscience just decide to go vegetarian rather than search for the elusive humane animal products.
trishya3333@hot
05-04-06, 03:09 PM
I knew it was a long shot But I do want to thank you for your replies. I live in San Francisco and I should probably go to the many health food stores with my questions. I just found out there's one 2 blocks away. DUH, really nice people too. I have gotten some very good ideas here so far so thanks again. and sorry if I offended anyone too!
MikeyVT
05-04-06, 03:16 PM
It really isnt that hard to go veggie. People make it out to be this extreme switch that is nearly impossable. Just give it a shot
If vegetarianism isn't an option for you, I'm glad you're looking for sources of meat which treat their animals better than most.
I sometimes go to a local farmer's market. I haven't investigated those who sell meat because I'm remaining vegetarian, but I suppose you might be able to get first-hand info about those who raise the animals, and that might be what you're looking for.
I hear ya about some of the more extreme vegetarian sites. I don't know if PeTA would have given you any leads. Good luck! (And good luck if you ever decide to try vegetarianism).
kpickell
05-04-06, 03:27 PM
Another option is to buy vinison and meat from local hunters and local fishermen. Not a popular idea on a vegetarian message board, but at least then you wouldn't have to worry about how the animals were treated on the farm.
Another option is to buy vinison and meat from local hunters and local fishermen. Not a popular idea on a vegetarian message board, but at least then you wouldn't have to worry about how the animals were treated on the farm.
Also if you have any local people around you like Amish people who sell thier egg's and meat you can buy from them though I am not familier with your area to know if there are any up there.
That is where I used to buy my meat and dairy products.
But look for local farmers and local butcher shops.
VeganTofu*ker
05-04-06, 04:20 PM
what is your definition of humane? are you sure the person that kills the animal for you shares your definition?
if your goal is to reduce animal violence, it just seems so much more convenient to not eat meat rather than try to find humane meat.
also, personally i feel that 'humane meat' is an oxymoron. no matter how 'nicely' you killed it, whatever animal you eat was once running for its life. (that is someone's signature, i can't remember whose though)
You probably won't find what you're looking for. It's just much too cost prohibitive to produce humane meat.
If meat is going to be consumed at all, it should be really, really expensive. Nothing makes me more angry than to see ads for cheap meat! It is downright wrong that you can buy a piece of a cow on a bun on a dollar menu. :mad:
sorry, a little rant.
If meat is going to be consumed at all, it should be really, really expensive. Nothing makes me more angry than to see ads for cheap meat! It is downright wrong that you can buy a piece of a cow on a bun on a dollar menu. :mad:
sorry, a little rant.
I agree.
Blue Plastic Straw
05-04-06, 05:03 PM
I have a friend who only eats what he calls "happy meats." He buys from local farmers who raise genuinely free-range, grass fed animals and eats vegetarian at restaurants and other places where he can't be sure where they source their meat. You're unlikely to find any kind of "list", you'll have to do a bit of footwork. I strongly suggest buying from a small local producer, ideally one where you can visually inspect the farm. Check with butchers, local farmer's markets, and health food stores for leads. There are a number of small farms operating in Northern California, so you'll likely have good luck finding these kinds of operations.
Obviously, I don't see it as an ideal situation, but it's a heck of a lot more than 90% of meat-eaters are doing.
ETA: It helps if you're able to buy larger quantities at a time, eg. a whole or half side of beef. This company operates at the Ferry Building Farmer's Market in S.F. http://www.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com/prather_ranch_meat_co.php
Here's a list for the Bay Area:
http://www.wisefoodways.com/bay/meat.php
zoebird
05-04-06, 05:35 PM
the weston a price foundation supports organic, grass fed and pasture raised meat, dairy, and egg products. they often have lists (you may have to send away for them) of various supplies around the US and the world (Can, NZ, many places in europe). their web site is http://www.westonaprice.org
Irizary
05-04-06, 09:43 PM
Like Blue Plastic Straw said, you should try to inspect any farm yourself. California factory farmers like to talk about "Happy Cows," when investigation shows that they probably couldn't be more miserable and mistreated.
Get Kobe beef. the cattle are treated humanely, and apparently, the taste is to die for. Oh yeah... It also costs about $200USD for a 4 to 6 ounce serving.
Going vegetarian is way cheaper and easier.
animallover7249
05-06-06, 10:46 PM
I dont think you should ask a VEGETARIAN message board on advice how you can continue to eat meat
WonderRandy
05-07-06, 05:42 AM
I dont think you should ask a VEGETARIAN message board on advice how you can continue to eat meat
I couldn't agree more.
Do I smell troll?
Well, I don't know. But perhaps the thread title is a dead (sorry) giveaway. How many "omnis" does the OP think he/she will find on a vegetarian message board? :confused: And "not willing to go completely veggie" is against the TOS, anyway. :think:
WonderRandy
05-07-06, 06:28 AM
reviewing this thread in light of the posting guidelines, I have to agree with Amy SF. Closing the thread...
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