I see no indication on their label or website that the ingredients aren't vegan but you guys have more experience in this than me. Anyone here drink it or know any additional info?

No, it's not vegan. Their source of vitamin D is D3 obtained from sheep wool. Their soybeans are also genetically modified and produced by DuPont ( that's what that solace "technology" is). I'd defenitly go for a different brand.

Do you have a link or something that I can look at to explain more about their D3 being obtained from sheep's wool and their soybeans being genetically modified? Thanks!

What? how do you know this, and how does one find out what brands are vegan? oye.

For the info on GMO soybeans, I just looked up Solace on a search to find out what it was and it was a DuPont site. The info on Vit. D3 I read on another site, I can't remember where, but this was last summer I found out. Sorry I'm not of much help. Maybe I'll try and find the link for ya!

If the soybeans aren't organic and the product doesn't state that it's non-GMO, it's pretty much 100% guaranteed to be genetically modified. The majority of non-organic soybeans grown are "RoundUp Ready", GMO soybeans.

Vitamin D3 (which is what 8th Continent specifies on their label) is always animal derived. http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/faqingredients.htm#d3

The majority of soymilks out there are vegan. The easiest way to tell if a soymilk is vegan is to look at the label. If it is fortified with Vitamin D, make sure is specifies D2, otherwise it's questionable. The only plain soymilk I know of that is non-vegan is 8th Continant, since Sun Soy recently changed to using D2. There are a number of strawberry flavored soymilks that use caramine as a coloring, but that is all I can think of.

Wow. This is effed up :mad: I'm pitching mine when I get home.

http://www.vegparadise.com/news19.html

Now I found it http://www.vegsource.com/talk/soy/messages/13918.html
Hope this helps some
I realized I spelled Solae wrong ( no "c" )

they just started carrying this brand in my store and when i read the label i was turned off just by how many ingredients it had compared to the other choices we have here. we stuck with silk!

I dumped the last bit of it I had in my refridgerator down the sink when I got home. It makes me mad still today....I feel dump for being so trusting of their packaging. Live and learn I suppose.

Yeah- I guess the "8th Continent" is where were gonna have to move to when the GMO's take over.

Yeah...that stuff is kinda like "faux" soymilk, all isolated soy protein and oil! ecch. Go for Westbrae, that stuff is perty good. So is Eden and Pacific soy, though Eden is spendier, and some veg*ns take issue with the fact that Pacific recently expanded to sell beef/chicken broth!

Its so nice about soymilk how most is organi happy! Yay! Most dairy milk you have to fuss around to find some organic, and you pay $2 more. :) haha.

kinda off topic but that reminds me of finding soy milk in thailand with skim milk powder in it !!!!! what the hell is up with that? :(

haha my friend bought that here in sd. his soy milk had milk solids in it. i was reading it out of habit but after the sucker already had half of it. i forget what brand it was.

I'm still not convinced that this isn't vegan. It doesn't say anywhere on the label D3 or animal or anything. How do you know that it isn't vegan?

Originally posted by punkmommy
Their soybeans are also genetically modified and produced by DuPont ( that's what that solace "technology" is).
OH MY GOD!!! I love that stuff!!! I'm not vegan, so maybe I could explain it away, but it's DUPONT!!! They're the DEVIL!!!

This reminds me of when I used to work for the company that does Dupont's information security. One day we found out just how vulnerable the web sites (including that of the subsidiary that produces Solae) was to various easy exploitations. Of course, being an ethically sound (and extremely well-paid at the time) professional, I just patched things up and moved on.

Nothing like having your soul sucked out through your asshole by a multinational environmental demagogue for money, right?

Yeah DuPont sucks big time. My dad worked there. As a little girl, I remembering him telling me which buildings the monkeys (for testing ) were kept.

The reason I brought this up is that Vegan Outreach was promoting 8th Continent as one of the best tasting soy milks currently available. So that made me wonder if it really wasn't vegan or not, so I wrote the company and the company confirmed what you all have said:
Thank you for contacting 8th Continent with your inquiry. The Vitamin D added to 8th Continent soymilk is from animal origin. It is Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol) from wool fat (lanolin). Thus, it is not a vegan product.
The director of VO didn't realize this until after receiving many emails telling him the same thing, so after contacting the company himself, he sent out a follow up email... which I'll qoute here:

Soymilk Encounter of the "DOH!" Kind
-Matt Ball

My mention of 8th Continent Soymilk in the last Vegan Spam brought in more letters than any other edition in the past year. The most pressing comment was that the Vitamin D that is added to the soymilk is derived from animals (it is Vitamin D3, as opposed to D2, which is derived from plants). This might be a good opportunity to write to the company and ask them to make the product acceptable to vegetarians (see postscript).

Other letters took Vegan Outreach to task for endorsing a product that is “offensive” in other ways. These complaints ranged from the soymilk’s sugar / chemical content and the possible use of genetically modified soybeans, to one of the parent company’s animal testing and the evils of multi-national corporations. Let me tell you why I don’t think these concerns should prevent us from promoting a soymilk.

I had heard from a number of people that 8th Continent Soymilk was by far the best, but it was family friends that prompted me to try it. This non-vegan family of four, for whom I had cooked many times, had tried every other kind of non-dairy milk I could find in Pittsburgh. One day, they told me about 8th Continent, and that they are buying it for themselves now, instead of cow’s milk, because of the taste.

Some may argue that the Earth would be better off if they went back to drinking cow’s milk. While there are people who argue that genetically modified organisms (GMOs) are a greater threat than industrial animal agriculture, I have seen no compelling evidence for this. Various environmental tragedies have been “right around the corner” for decades, but have never materialized. The Earth only matters as much as the suffering and pleasure of its individual creatures. I’m not willing to have dairy cows and veal calves suffer – and that is what will happen if people are told they can only drink organic, additive-free, small-company soymilk – so I can take a symbolic stand against hypothetical environmental nightmares.

No matter what we argue, the vast majority of people aren’t going to give up their status quo, support communal, not-for-profit local farms, and eat only non-processed whole foods.

Contrast this with the outcry against any vegetarian endorsement of the BK Veggie, and the pre-emptive strikes against McDonald’s McVeggie (see also this article) and it would appear that many vegetarians don’t want to be joined by anyone from the masses. They would rather have it their way.

Although we will not promote 8th Continent Soymilk as “vegan” because of the vitamin D3, we would much prefer that people concerned with taste drink a non-organic soymilk from a multinational that contains D3, rather than continue to drink cow’s milk. In fact, we don’t know that avoiding the small amounts of D3 in fortified foods alleviates much suffering; it may very well be that vegans should not publicly worry about D3 if we want to do the most good.

Unless human nature changes drastically, most people are going to continue doing what is relatively convenient. This is the bottom line: we can argue, in isolation, for our view of vegan purity, or we can encourage concrete steps that will prevent suffering.

It seems kind of irresponsible not to state on the label that it isn't vegan. I mean, it's SOYMILK!!! Failing to state that it is not vegan is like selling beer without mentioning that, by the way, is non-alcoholic.

Some beer is also vegan, but they don't label it as such.

Soymilk was not necessarily intended to be a vegan product. It was an alternative to milk, and before veganism became as prevalent as it's becoming, the primary drinkers were lactose-intolerant individuals.

As much as I'd like for all products to carry a vegan or non-vegan label, it's still a case of "buyer beware" out there.

I think I'll try 8th Continent. I recently tried Sun Soy chocolate and actually liked it! For the first time ever I was able to actually drink a glass of soy milk. Granted, it was chocolate, but still, I've never found a brand or flavor I could stand to drink.

"kinda off topic but that reminds me of finding soy milk in thailand with skim milk powder in it !!!!! what the hell is up with that? "
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Man , that's like putting hamburger in a veggie burger!!!

Originally posted by dk_art
"kinda off topic but that reminds me of finding soy milk in thailand with skim milk powder in it !!!!! what the hell is up with that? "
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Man , that's like putting hamburger in a veggie burger!!!

In the states, soy milk is just a substitute for dairy marketed to vegans. In asia, soy milk is a beverage in its own right.

Originally posted by kirkjobsluder
In the states, soy milk is just a substitute for dairy marketed to vegans. In asia, soy milk is a beverage in its own right.


this is a very broad statement. Vegans are really the majority, at least in my opinion. Soy milk is marketed to vegetarians and vegans as well as omnivores for a healthier alternative.

8th Continent sucks. It's the only brand I can think of that uses refined sugar, artificial flavorings, and other needles ingredients, and most soymilks choose non-GMO and organic soybeans, while 8th Continent does not. Also, it is made using isolated soy protein, instead of using the whole bean, which is a healthier and better route to making soymilk. :( Boo for 8th Continent. They could care less about being responsible or healthy, just riding the wave of soymilk's popularity and making it taste good to the standard american by adding all those crappy fake ingredients.

Cassie