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Popstar2be
04-18-06, 02:38 PM
Ok, so, my cat Elsie just had four kittens, and here in a few weeks they will be big enough to give away. We cant keep them all because we have five cats already, so if anybody here lives in or near Missouri, PM me if you would like a kitten. Heres a little info.

Sex: Not sure (to tiny to tell!)
Colors: Three gray, and one black
Names(yes they have names!): Bugles, FlowerFluffy, Wimpo, and Toaster
Description:Healthy, cute, jumpy, VERY hyper, lovable, love attention.

We are really looking for good, indoor homes for the kittens, preferably one where the kitten has some space to run around, and some toys, but I soppose they could be outdoor cats, as long as you keep a good eye on them. Anyways, ya, if you would like one and live in or near Missouri, PM me. We really dont want these kittens to end up in an animal shelter that wont take care of them, and we dont want them thrown around and neglected, and we dont want to have to give them away at Wal*Marts as a last resort, so ya, please, if you live in or near Missouri, PM me! Thank you!

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muse
04-18-06, 02:45 PM
Stck 'em in the post and send them to England :hamster:

Alfiedog
04-18-06, 02:59 PM
Why wasn't your cat fixed?

You aren't supposed to give away animals for free though (although I guess on the board it doesn't matter as much.) Charge a minimal fee so that you know the person who is adopting will actually care. Many people take animals and use them as pit bull bait or sell them to research labs. You ought to be having people fill out an application and do home checks to make sure these poor kittens go to good homes.

And once again, why wasn't your cat fixed?

Noelson
04-18-06, 03:00 PM
OMG NO NO NO you should never ever ever give away free animals. Never unless you know who FOR SURE they are going to. Sorry, but free is a very bad idea.

Noelson
04-18-06, 03:01 PM
HA! Alfie I was typing as you were posting - sorry for the duplicate

purrpelle
04-18-06, 03:01 PM
did you find your other cat yet?

jenna
04-18-06, 03:14 PM
Make sure the kittens are fixed before they go to their new homes.

Popstar2be
04-18-06, 03:14 PM
Not yet, he still hasnt come home, and also, we are going to check out the people they go to, we just dont want to end up giving them to strangers at Wal*Marts, so I thought I would ask people if they wanted one on a website that really cares about animals.

MaryC1999
04-18-06, 03:17 PM
I have to agree that you shouldn't give away free animals. Some people will even pay small fees to get animals and then sell them for more money to testing places.
If you *really care about animals, get your cat fixed and insure that there will be no more unwanted kittens. The world has enough cats. Seriously. Otherwise be ready to take care of them all yourself because it's really the only way to be absolutely positive they'll be raised in a good home.
Just my .02.
Mary

Popstar2be
04-18-06, 03:36 PM
Ya ok, but ya, we are getting her fixed asap I promise, and anyways, how much do you suggest I charge for them?

Noelson
04-18-06, 03:38 PM
Not yet, he still hasnt come home, and also, we are going to check out the people they go to, we just dont want to end up giving them to strangers at Wal*Marts, so I thought I would ask people if they wanted one on a website that really cares about animals.

I think thats great - but really, please don't give them away. AND don't kid yourself, I don't think everyone on this website cares about animals. Also, we can be anyone we want to be on any board - you really don't know the people here.

purrpelle
04-18-06, 03:38 PM
charge enough so that you can pay to get your other cats fixed.

meatless
04-18-06, 03:42 PM
Ya ok, but ya, we are getting her fixed asap I promise, and anyways, how much do you suggest I charge for them?


Would it be possible to get them fixed at a low-cost spay/neuter clinic in your area, and then simply charge what you had to pay to get them fixed?

When I adopted my cats they were $135 each, but came either already fixed or with a voucher to have it done for free. I know that at our local S&N clinic it's about $75 to have a boy cat neutered... not sure how much spaying is.

Popstar2be
04-18-06, 03:45 PM
Ya, ok, maybe, but I didnt know you could get them fixed when there little. Like i said, its still a few weeks before they can go to there new homes, I just wanted to give people some time to think things over before adopting one, but ya, I thought you couldnt get them fixed when they are really little. I just meant we are getting the motehr fixed, and I dont think people would pay a heck of alot for these cats, considering there mother was the daughter of a stray we found.

P.S. We do need to get the other cats fixed, so, I soppose since its 35 dollars a cat to get them fixed here, we should charge 35 dollars a kitten?

Ayrlin
04-18-06, 04:12 PM
Ya, ok, maybe, but I didnt know you could get them fixed when there little. Like i said, its still a few weeks before they can go to there new homes, I just wanted to give people some time to think things over before adopting one, but ya, I thought you couldnt get them fixed when they are really little. I just meant we are getting the motehr fixed, and I dont think people would pay a heck of alot for these cats, considering there mother was the daughter of a stray we found.

P.S. We do need to get the other cats fixed, so, I soppose since its 35 dollars a cat to get them fixed here, we should charge 35 dollars a kitten?
It is not a bad idea, depending on the vet you use though will determine the age /weight of your kitties before they are fixed.
Mine can do it when the kittens reach 2 pounds.
Also what age are you planing on seperating them from thier mom?
Foster kitties that come into my care I seperate them from thier mom between 10 and 12 weeks of age once they are weaned and able to regulate thier own core body temp.

MaryC1999
04-18-06, 05:43 PM
Ya, ok, maybe, but I didnt know you could get them fixed when there little. Like i said, its still a few weeks before they can go to there new homes, I just wanted to give people some time to think things over before adopting one, but ya, I thought you couldnt get them fixed when they are really little. I just meant we are getting the motehr fixed, and I dont think people would pay a heck of alot for these cats, considering there mother was the daughter of a stray we found.

P.S. We do need to get the other cats fixed, so, I soppose since its 35 dollars a cat to get them fixed here, we should charge 35 dollars a kitten?

Have them seen by a vet and fixed and sell them for what it cost to neuter them. Our kitten was neutered as soon as we got him 6 years ago. I think he was 2 or 3 months old? Call your vet and find out. You can get them fixed and let people know they are reimbursing you for neutering the kitten, not necessarily paying for a "mutt" kitten. You can also talk to your vets office, ours will let you know if anyone has asked about a kitten.
"Oops" kittens are VERY hard to get rid of. By neutering them and charging people back for the service you are upping the chances of them going to a good home but lowering the chances of them actually leaving yours probably. Giving them away for free almost guarantees that they'll end up in a lousy situation. It's not a given but it's close enough. Most free kittens that DO go to homes and aren't just sold for medical experimentation or tortured by some idiot are not necessarily going to people with well thought out intentions regarding getting a pet. If you give them away in a parking lot it's "Oh isn't it cute", well until it starts to claw up the couch or sprays on the walls. Then it's a pest. It'll be lucky if it JUST gets kicked outside and not allowed back in. Or it's a present for the "little angels". Don't get me wrong, I'm a parent of three boys, but I know how little kids can be. Especially when parents don't bother to teach them not to poke eyes, pull fur or squeeze their stomachs. Then when kitty claws little precious, it's booted out to fend for itself.
I'm not saying this to be mean, shame you or scare you. This is what happens when we're not as responsible as we should be with our pets. You have to take a good hard look at the facts. Hundreds of cats sit in Humane Societies and shelters around the nation. There is not a huge demand for mistake kittens and most people are reluctant to pay for them. Those who don't mind paying go to shelters where they get certificates to neuter the cat and the cat has all it's shots. Those who don't want to pay generally are not going to be the most stellar owners. I know if I truly wanted a pet, I wouldn't mind paying to get the pet.
Don't ask people to pay money so you can neuter your cats though. Truely that's YOUR responsibility and it should've been done long before now. Neuter the kittens and ask people to pay you back for that. Realize you'll have to get their first shots too so you're going to have to take a good look at how much you think is reasonable to charge. If you find the right people, though, they'll realize they would've had to pay that eventually anyway, you just saved them the trip and after surgery care.Be ready to keep the kittens until they've completely healed from surgery and had any follow up care needed. You can't dump a kitten healing from surgery on someone.
Also ditch the names thing. People generally choose to name their own pets.
I hope things work out for you and I sincerely hope you don't get stuck in this position again.
Mary
Also how old are the kittens? You make repeated statements to them being very small, too small to even tell the sexes, then say in "a few weeks" they'll be weaned and ready to go? It's my understanding (and I may be wrong but I don't think I am) that kittens should stay with mom for AT LEAST 8 weeks. Separating them earlier is not good for mom or the babies.
I would definitely contact a vet. Your momma cat should be checked for feline aids and leukemia seeing as how she was allowed to be impregnanted by an unknown cat. Those diseases are lethal.

Popstar2be
04-18-06, 05:58 PM
Well, I know who the father cat was, Pumpkin, considering he is the only male cat in the neighborhood, but ya, they are about 4 weeks, and I know you have to wait untill at least eight weeks, but Elsie has already stopped feeding them pretty much, she fed them once in the past few days, but they are drinking milk, and smushed up cat food, and sometimes wet food. But ya, thank you all for the suggestions, I appreciate it. And also, I know you werent just trying to scare me, you were just being a good animal lover! lol! But ya, thanks guys!

meatless
04-18-06, 06:10 PM
My Chewy (in my avatar) was already neutered by the SPCA when we adopted him, at 8 weeks old.

Note: many cats are lactose intolerant, so be careful with feeding them too much cow's milk.

Popstar2be
04-18-06, 06:15 PM
We are, we dont feed them that much cow milk, we are trying to just feed them wet food, but ya, thanks!

rabid_child
04-18-06, 06:19 PM
You should have ALL your cats Felv/FIV tested, especially the kittens before you give them away. I don't know why anyone would adopt a kitten that wasn't Felv/FIV tested negative before adoption. The rest of your cats, since they're basically whoring around the neighborhood, need to be tested as well so that you aren't spreading diseases around. They probably all need to be dewormed as well.
Kittens can be spayed really young, as can puppies. It's easier to do the operation when they're bigger though so thats why most people wait until around 6 mos old. Your adult cats can be spayed at any time (after the kittens are weaned for the mother). You can even spay pregnant cats. There's really no excuse for this irresponsible breeding.

Popstar2be
04-18-06, 06:32 PM
Ya, thanks, I heard it all before and I get it now. I got it the first twenty times someone said it. But ya, anyways, thanks for all your help guys! We are getting the cats fixed ASAP and keeping them in the house until they are. Even Smeogle, the one who REFUSED to come in is inside and sleeping now, so ya, thanks again.

Divine
04-18-06, 11:39 PM
Do you have a no-kill shelter near you? If so, you could give the kittens to them & they could find them good homes. This way, the shelter should have a policy of getting them fixed before or after adoption & they'll have some sort of application process to ensure that they're being adopted out to good homes.

BTW- I'm glad to hear that you plan on getting your cats fixed. :)

kpickell
04-19-06, 12:25 AM
To answer your question, I would suggestion charging a reimbursement fee for medical costs. Spay the kittens before they go to their new homes, and get them their first set of shots... and whatever that costs you, that's what you should charge to the new owners. Then donate the money to a shelter.

kpickell
04-19-06, 12:26 AM
Do you have a no-kill shelter near you? If so, you could give the kittens to them & they could find them good homes. This way, the shelter should have a policy of getting them fixed before or after adoption & they'll have some sort of application process to ensure that they're being adopted out to good homes.

BTW- I'm glad to hear that you plan on getting your cats fixed. :)
That just means more kittens are killed because the no-kill shelter can't rescue more from kill shelters. It sounds like the OP is trying to be responsible and find homes on her own to avoid this problem, so pushing them off onto a shelter seems like a bad idea imo. But, getting them all fixed before adoption and screening for good homes is something that should be done anyways.

Popstar2be
04-19-06, 01:20 AM
Ok, thanks!