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bornveggieboy
04-13-06, 08:42 PM
We have all heard about school trips, educational trips or fun trips or picnics to
Cherry farm , apple farm, grape farm, vegetable farms where we can buy vegetables, fruits.
I would like all our human race to see if we can have similar trips to slaughter houses and see if we can really digest and have fun on such trips. How many of our schools, university students have paid visit to slaughterhouses from where most of their food comes from. All talk about hamburgers, steaks, chicken, beef,pork but how many of us really know how it is made, what kinda torture it is involved, How that steak , turkey or beef , or pork are raised and grown.
Can we really see how pork is grown the way we see a flower growing or plant growing?
Let us hope that every school board or education ministry look into it and arrange for educational trips to slaugherhouses. Can they dare do that?
Comments welcome.
barrylove
04-13-06, 08:55 PM
This is something I HIT the committee I am on to improve the foods in the cafeteria.
This 'BITCH' of a women who had a negative for everything that anyone brought up something that made me very upset.
She is a school nurse and let me point out, she is VERY OVERWEIGHT HERSELF and she sais, "Do you all know that every kid that came through my office today had no clue ther was a farm show in Allentown this weekend? This is what they need. They need to be educated on the animals and dairy. We should run trips to the farms"
I said, "WHAT!? What is that going to teach them? How loevely the animals are. That they can go up and pet them adn kiss them? Do you think that is real?'
Her, 'Well, it is where we get our food and they need to know the importance of it"
Me, "You want to show them where their food comes from? Lets take them to a slaughterhouse and show them for REAL where their food comes from and how it is prepared!"
She put her head down and turned BRIGHT RED!
The reason I mention about her being overweight is because during all of the meetings, she was suppose to be 'helping' our kids and all she ever did was tell us HER experiences and what has helped her. She was very negative and she brought up SOUTH BEACH and ATKINS!
Anyway.....you are right. You want to teach the kids a REAL LIFE education about food and where it comes from, take them to a slaughterhouse.
"If slaughterhouses had windows, nobody would eat meat"
bornveggieboy
04-13-06, 09:00 PM
my salutation.
"If slaughterhouses had GLASS windows, nobody would eat meat" yu are absolutely right. Let us hope in future we would have. Yes our body is temple and it does not need blood of dead animals.
Good idea in theory but couldnt be funded unfortunately
Tesseract
04-13-06, 09:03 PM
I think perhaps it ought to be a required course for all high schoolers. Fun... no. Educational... yes.
Edit: Muse is right, of course. It'll never happen... at least not in our lifetimes.
barrylove
04-13-06, 09:04 PM
my salutation.
"If slaughterhouses had GLASS windows, nobody would eat meat" yu are absolutely right. Let us hope in future we would have. Yes our body is temple and it does not need blood of dead animals.
Thanks.. I tend to type to fast or maybe I think to slow :-/
bornveggieboy
04-14-06, 10:40 PM
It was well understood. I liked your quotes.
kpickell
04-14-06, 11:25 PM
"If slaughterhouses had GLASS windows, nobody would eat meat" yu are absolutely right. Yet the overwhelming majority of slaughterhouse employees keep right on eating meat. We assume that people eat meat because they don't know how it goes from cow to meat, but people aren't stupid. They know and they still choose to eat it. Take the auther of Fast Food Nation for example--he writes a book explaining the intricacies of slaughterhouses, yet he's never stopped eating meat.
bornveggieboy
04-15-06, 09:13 PM
Yet the overwhelming majority of slaughterhouse employees keep right on eating meat. ... They know and they still choose to eat it. Take the auther of Fast Food Nation for example--he writes a book explaining the intricacies of slaughterhouses, yet he's never stopped eating meat.
So he used this subject for commerical resasons probably to earn livelyhood by selling books.?
And rest majority they are just selfish, they don't think beyond their own taste buds, or they just feel too odd among rest being vegetarian or not much options. But trend has certainly started and I strongly believe in next 20 years 50% of world population will be vegetarian or meat free. Before 10 years vegetarians were looked as odd lot or hardly heard of.
barrylove
04-15-06, 10:04 PM
Yet the overwhelming majority of slaughterhouse employees keep right on eating meat. We assume that people eat meat because they don't know how it goes from cow to meat, but people aren't stupid. They know and they still choose to eat it. Take the auther of Fast Food Nation for example--he writes a book explaining the intricacies of slaughterhouses, yet he's never stopped eating meat.
I truly believe that the employees of slaughtehouses see the animals as JUST THINGS and not a living being.
I worked with a guy a few years ago who used to work in a slaughterhouse. We were in a meeting and he was laughing at the way he would see the pigs go 'down the slide, screaming and yelling, what the hell do I care, that's how I built my house!"..this is what he said. I had to leave the room because I thought my heart was going to blow out of my chest!
I could not stay because I thought I was going to kick his ass right there in the conference room!
These people loose all consciousness. How can anybody go to sleep at night and think one bit that what they did today at their job in a slaughterhouse is OK and normal?
How can a hunter kill an innocent deer and hang it on the wall and then have the nerve to say, 'Look at her. Isn't she just beautiful?" But when a person has the heads of 3 blondes, 4 brunnettes and 2 redheads on their wall and says, "Look at those TROPHIES. Aren't they just beautiful?", that is MUCH different!
THEY ARE ALL COWARDS I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY THINK!
kpickell
04-15-06, 10:22 PM
So he used this subject for commerical resasons probably to earn livelyhood by selling books.?
And rest majority they are just selfish, they don't think beyond their own taste buds, or they just feel too odd among rest being vegetarian or not much options. But trend has certainly started and I strongly believe in next 20 years 50% of world population will be vegetarian or meat free. Before 10 years vegetarians were looked as odd lot or hardly heard of.
You may or may not be right, I was just pointing out the fallacy in your quote.
rainbow_clouds
04-15-06, 10:48 PM
What slaugherhouse will allow that? The more ignorance, the better for them.
That would have been fun, damn boring schools.
I am thinking it would be tramatizing.
My little one sobed for hours when the dog killed a snake out back
bornveggieboy
04-23-06, 07:16 AM
I think such activities need to be known as this is crucial part of kids life. They must know what their food is, while learning lessons on" be kind" , " be honest" etc...
Would they be allowed to participate?
Fabiano13
04-23-06, 08:46 PM
I often wonder myself how people would react if they were forced to see what goes on in slaughterhouses. But then again, I have invited people to wacth "Meet your Meat" and they go on eating it. It seems that because it involves a lifestyle change, people don't want to do it. Meanwhile the suffering of animals continues...
These people loose all consciousness. How can anybody go to sleep at night and think one bit that what they did today at their job in a slaughterhouse is OK and normal?
How can a hunter kill an innocent deer and hang it on the wall and then have the nerve to say, 'Look at her. Isn't she just beautiful?" But when a person has the heads of 3 blondes, 4 brunnettes and 2 redheads on their wall and says, "Look at those TROPHIES. Aren't they just beautiful?", that is MUCH different!
THEY ARE ALL COWARDS I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY THINK!
Go, Barry!
Go, Barry!
Go, Barry!
I don't think a tour of a slaughter house will ever go across in public school at any age, but I really believe Meet Your Meat should be required viewing in 9th grade science/15 years old. And only a Dr. statement be able to get them out of it.
I have to sit through two car crash films when I was 15. It got my attention.
LuLuBell
04-25-06, 03:53 PM
Just a note on this:
I do not like or support slaughterhouses at all, I detest them. I think it is important to point out though that there are communities where the slaughterhouse (much like a pulp mill or whatever) is what keeps the community up and running. This may be the only job that the town has for these people. It is still sad though.
I knew a few people who worked in slaughterhouses. They didn't really have a choice, it was either that or the street basically. They felt horrible about it, and didn't like thier job at all.
So not all employees at slaughterhouses are cold hearted and view the animals as just things.
ringo_is_my_man
05-03-06, 05:44 PM
umm
thats alright
i'll pass
and theres no way any childs parent would let them go to a slaughter house
4EverGrounded
05-03-06, 06:07 PM
I don't think a tour of a slaughter house will ever go across in public school at any age, but I really believe Meet Your Meat should be required viewing in 9th grade science/15 years old. And only a Dr. statement be able to get them out of it.
I have to sit through two car crash films when I was 15. It got my attention.AMEN! :up:
ringo_is_my_man
05-04-06, 06:11 PM
AMEN! :up:
still there would be tons of parents not wanting their child to go and/or the schools would never agree to something like that
i know if i was a parent i wouldnt want my child going to a slaughter house
Irizary
05-04-06, 06:51 PM
Just a note on this:
I do not like or support slaughterhouses at all, I detest them. I think it is important to point out though that there are communities where the slaughterhouse (much like a pulp mill or whatever) is what keeps the community up and running. This may be the only job that the town has for these people. It is still sad though.
I knew a few people who worked in slaughterhouses. They didn't really have a choice, it was either that or the street basically. They felt horrible about it, and didn't like thier job at all.
So not all employees at slaughterhouses are cold hearted and view the animals as just things.
As kpickell said, the vast majority of slaughterhouse workers eat meat. There was story in Utne Reader about the inhumanity of chicken processing plants, and the subtext of the story was how horrendously cruel the processing was to the chickens...but when workers were interviewed, they talked about how much they liked eating chicken. So sure, the workers might be oppressed, but they're by choice oppressing and killing someone even more helpless than themselves. I think that's cold-hearted. It's one thing to say you "don't like it" - another thing to keep up the demand for it by your own practices.
It is not easy to get into a factory pig or chicken or any other intensive farming situation. This is where the overwhelming majority of animal food comes from. The slaughterhouse is just the end of the line of a life of misery for those animals. The people who have a vested interest in these things do not want the public to see it.
ringo_is_my_man
05-04-06, 07:32 PM
and plus im sure if the places where they are keeping the animals is unsanitary and disgusting so im sure the people that own these places dont want other people to see what they are doing cause it could be considered animal abuse and animal abuse is illegal
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