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Secura
04-25-03, 09:03 PM
what are all your favorite cruelty free cosmetics and bath and body kinda products? I wanna try some new stuff but it's all pretty expensive so I was interested in some of your opinions before I try something new.

which brands and products do you buy regularly? I usually get trader joe's shampoo and conditioner and zia (? i think thats the one) make up. i used to always make my own soap but im too lazy now, lol.

punkmommy
04-25-03, 09:47 PM
I usually get Nature's Gate Sea Kelp and Aloe shampoos and conditioners. For other bath stuff I use Kiss my Face Pear soap, Trader Joe's Cream Shave and Sunshine Spa Brown Sugar and Tangerine Body scrub. For makeup I also use Zia foundation. Everything else is Beauty without Cruelty.

vegankittykat
04-26-03, 01:14 AM
I like Trader Joe's shampoo & conditioner also, but when I feel like splurging I'll get conditioner from Rusk. I like the bar body soap at Trader Joe's, but I don't remember the brand. I think it's a french-sounding name. I've recently tried Origins foundation, and it seems pretty good. I'm currently using Avalon Vitamin C liquid face soap which is really good...but a little pricey.

jacfong
04-26-03, 10:01 AM
Dr. Hauschka! I use the facial products and it's the only brand that seems to agree with my problem skin. It's not that cheap, but it's brilliant. (it's biodynamic) Can't remember their website address but I am sure you can search google.
Also, if you're in the UK, try Lush for bodycare products. They have stuff so yummy you will wanna eat them! Take a peek round www.lush.co.uk if you like. I think they deliver.
Oh, and Weleda!!

thefragile77
04-26-03, 10:10 AM
[I found an Aussie website that listed Clinique as animal friendly. Does anyone know if that is, in fact, the case?] -edit

Nevermind I found a link on PETA that says Clinique is in fact CRUELTY FREE so yeah they are my fave brand. Expensive but worth it- Esp their foundations.

Michael
04-26-03, 10:18 AM
Clinique is on PETA's 'Companies That Don't Test on Animals' list...

http://www.peta.org/mall/cc/ccdonttest1.html

I see someone edited their post to take credit it for all of my hard research. :rolleyes: :D

thefragile77
04-26-03, 10:19 AM
Dood stop talking me...seriously :D Heehee I'm kidding

Michael
04-26-03, 10:21 AM
Dood stop talking me...

Either you want me to stop talking to you or stop stalking you. I can't tell which. :confused:

thefragile77
04-26-03, 10:22 AM
D'oh I meant stalking.

FemmeDemonica
04-26-03, 10:32 AM
I was just about to start a thread just like this, Secura. Mostly because I am pretty much ignorant about make-up, but also because the little make-up I do have is looking old and crusty.

Even though Clinique is listed as "cruelty-free" does that mean that all of their products, besides not being tested on animals, do not contain any animal products as well?

I know Pamela Anderson/Lee/Whatever is also vegan, so I've always wondered what kinds of cosmetics she uses, not that I'm trying to learn any beauty tips from her. ;) I just wonder where she gets her stuff...

I think my bathroom cabinets look a little something like this: shampoo and conditioner--Avalon, deoderant--Alba Botanical (though I'm not sure I reccomend it), shaving paraphenalia--Kiss My Face, facewash--Avalon, soap--Dr. Bronner's, body lotion--Nature's Gate (though I don't think I like it very much--my main motivation in buying it was that it was on sale).

The make-up I do have consists of EcoBella mascara, BWC eyeliner (though I hardly know how to use it), and Hemp Organics lipstick. C'est tout.

When I was at the bookstore last night, I even sat down with one of Bobbi Brown's (the make-up artist) book on beauty trying to figure out what exactly I need to be looking for in make-up. I can't believe I'm rolling towards 25 and I'm a total idiot with regards to make-up.

thefragile77
04-26-03, 10:40 AM
[i] I can't believe I'm rolling towards 25 and I'm a total idiot with regards to make-up. [/B]

Hey I am 25 and I hardly own any make up let alone know how to use it. I figure at our age we are young and wrinkle free so who cares? :D - Not to mention the whole femi-nazi side of my personality heehee. Don't subjugate me damn you!

As far as I know Clinique don't use animal by-products in their make-up. I doubt PETA would list them if they did.

thefragile77
04-26-03, 10:42 AM
Arrgghh FemmeDemonica I just noticed your Title! I lurve Cat Power. Woohoo there are people with good taste in music in here.

FemmeDemonica
04-26-03, 11:12 AM
(Thanks, thefragile77!)

I checked the Peta list that Mike posted, and only the starred companies produce completely vegan items. Clinique isn't starred, so I'm interpreting that as that it does use bi-products in all or at least some of its cosmetics. *shrugs*

thefragile77
04-26-03, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by FemmeDemonica
(Thanks, thefragile77!)

I checked the Peta list that Mike posted, and only the starred companies produce completely vegan items. Clinique isn't starred, so I'm interpreting that as that it does use bi-products in all or at least some of its cosmetics. *shrugs*

D'Oh. :( I'll have to check the backs of the bottles and stuff. *runs away*

BarbB
04-27-03, 11:24 PM
I use Arbonne products. They use no animal by-products and have never tested on animals. The only thing is you can only get it from a consultant (it's direct marketing).

Barb

punkmommy
04-28-03, 11:46 AM
Christi from www.differentdaisy.com is a distributer of Arbonne. You have to call or e-mail her to order the products.

lijahbaby
04-28-03, 12:11 PM
Hey all. I had to pitch in here because I found out a while ago that Clinique is not totally vegan.On their web site it says that they use animal ingredients in some of their products but most are vegan.I forget which products were not vegan but I am pretty sure there is a list under FAQs.Also I am sure you coud contact them to find out.

veganchick
04-28-03, 01:16 PM
I really like Paula's Choice skin care line. Check it out at www.paulaschoice.com. I like Arbonne & Clinique makeup. Also, Beauty Without Cruelty has some good makeup. Check out cosmetics at www.veganstore.com. How fun to be shopping for new stuff.


Edit: Don't know why but the Paula's Choice link isn't working but still worth looking at some time.

BarbB
04-28-03, 09:10 PM
If anyone is interested in purchasing Arbonne you can use my number when going to the web site at www.arbonne.com. I am not doing it as a business but signed on as a consultant only to get the discount for myself. They do offer a 45 day money back guarantee.

Barb
Consultant #10348990

muffcake
04-28-03, 10:20 PM
Clinique uses lanolin, bees wax and carmine...Those are the first things that come to mind.

I love beauty/makeup. I love Origins. The powder leaves my skin flawless and the liner stays on all day. Other brands I use include Zuzu Luxe and, Barry M. I plan on trying out Arbone. I go for neon colors and glitter. Origins is easy to find and I say 97% of their stuff is vegan. Only some things contain bee products.

Also not to be grumpy but the idea that femenist can't like/wear makeup is silly. I fight for women's rights and love me a good dose of glitter eyeshadow.

Pamela Anderson is not vegan. She eats at McDonald's and goes out for sushi and ice cream. I read way to many gossip magazines! I think she is just anti-fur/animal testing. I like her though in VIP.

thefragile77
04-28-03, 11:04 PM
Also not to be grumpy but the idea that femenist can't like/wear makeup is silly. I fight for women's rights and love me a good dose of glitter eyeshadow

Umm yeah I was joking :D. Plus there are bigger things to worry about than Western Women slapping on make-up i.e. women living in poverty.

FemmeDemonica
04-29-03, 10:59 AM
PETA's magazine that gets sent out to members (I think it's called Animal Times) stated that Pamela Anderson was vegan and that she was in the process of developing her own vegan make-up line. That's where I read she was vegan. For some reason I trust that a bit more than gossip magazines. ;)

I emailed Clinique yesterday to see if someone could provide me with a list of products that do not contain animal ingredients.

I also checked out Paula's Choice yesterday, and it looks like several of their products aren't vegan, but many are.

I suppose my concern with ordering make-up (especially costly make-up, which most vegan stuff is) is that you can't get an accurate depiction of the color. I've ordered lipstick from BWC before, and the crap was ORANGE, not the lovely bronze color the website showed.

(I just thought I'd throw in the piece of info that the eternally disgusting Rush Limbaugh actually coined the term "femi-nazi", and he's faaaar from a defender of women's rights, so it's fair to say it is not intended as a nice word.)

thefragile77
04-29-03, 10:37 PM
(I just thought I'd throw in the piece of info that the eternally disgusting Rush Limbaugh actually coined the term "femi-nazi", and he's faaaar from a defender of women's rights, so it's fair to say it is not intended as a nice word.) [/B]

Yeah one of the few PIGS I wouldn't mind seeing turned into bacon :D .

muffcake
04-29-03, 10:48 PM
Kid Rock Pam's fiance stated he loves her because she is simple and will eat at McDonald's. I would like to know the scoop on this. I am going to poke around. And gossip magazines actually are more current than Peta's list. I like US since they keep updated on celebs causes/eating. I sometimes find the PETA celeb list is not true. They have Avril Lavane <sp?> as a veg and she eats meat and hunts...

Secura
04-30-03, 12:31 PM
maybe she gets a salad. lol.