The Nature Of Cancer -- By Ernst Krebs

[jamesmk2003]

http://www.karlloren.com/biopsy/p77.htm

The Nature Of Cancer -- By Ernst Krebs
Cancer & Biopsy
The Nature of Cancer

[zoebird]

that's a relaly long post; thanks for sharing it.

[Diana]

Cancer is a chronic, metabolic disease...that is obvious. It isn't an infectious disease, which is caused by bacteria of viruses (quoted from the article in question).

Lucien Israel, a very famous French professor who has studied cancer in depth, has this theory about cancer, and I translate from the French:

(.....Professor Israel) has a deep conviction that cancer is not, as one believes it today, a pathology in the sense of this word, an illness - but rather a biological process inextricably mixed with the appearance of life on Earth, a genetical programme inherited from the first bacteria that appeared on the surface of the globe.

[bjorn again veg]

some vindication for me eating apricot kernels on a weekly basis!!!

You may also be intersted in this link: http://www.laetrile.com.au/
The B17 story is very intersting with some major cancer researchers supporting it & then being discredited!

I have been into B17 for a long time now & have copped some flack from other VBers when I have mentioned it.

Personally I have little in the medical profession - surely it is a major conflict of interst to be a CEO of a hospital & also take on an advisory position (albeit unpaid!) for a pharmeceutical company? There is no way to patent food so of course the medical companies will debunk it. (Having said that recent UK research is attempting to do just that by using a 2 step process with B17 to pinpint tumours IIRC)

Look at scurvy, a similar story it could be said. Caused by a lack of fresh fruit & vit C - the bane of the Navy for years till the Brits took limes on ships (hence Limeys!)

[Bios]

Geh. Guys like this annoy me, because they undermine attempts at scientific education by tossing in a bunch of muck that has 'science' stamped on the package. Either this guy has a very poor understanding of cancer formation, or he's ignoring it to make his arguements. And he doesn't mention the high cyanide content of the seeds of the peach family.

I say this as both a professional physiologist, and a cancer survivor who had a habit of eating her apples entire (seeds and all). Logic or anecdotal experience, take your pick.

Peace,

Jeanne

[gaya]

Cancer is a chronic, metabolic disease...that is obvious. It isn't an infectious disease, which is caused by bacteria of viruses (quoted from the article in question).

Lucien Israel, a very famous French professor who has studied cancer in depth, has this theory about cancer, and I translate from the French:

(.....Professor Israel) has a deep conviction that cancer is not, as one believes it today, a pathology in the sense of this word, an illness - but rather a biological process inextricably mixed with the appearance of life on Earth, a genetical programme inherited from the first bacteria that appeared on the surface of the globe.
It's not infectious but I thought there were cancer causing viruses

eta:

Article date: 2005/02/16
For the first time, the US government has added certain viruses to its list of things that can cause cancer in humans. Hepatitis B, hepatitis C, and some human papilloma viruses (HPV) are among the 17 new entries on the Department of Health and Human Services' Eleventh Edition of the Report on Carcinogens
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_1_1x_Viruses_Added_to_List_of_Cancer-Causing_Substances.asp

[guitargirl03]

My best friend's mum died from cancer nearly 3 years ago. She ate healthily and was very active, yet she still got cancer. Although I believe that leading a healthy life, i.e not smoking could improve your chances of not getting cancer, there's still a risk, regardless of what you eat or what you don't eat.

peace and love amy-jane xx

[madder]

Hasn't HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) been linked with cervical cancer?

Don't have time to search right now, but as far as I know, this is sexually transmitted.

ETA: here's one link: http://womenshealth.about.com/cs/cervicalcancer/a/hpvcervcancercn.htm

[Bios]

To make a cell grow into a cancer, that cell has to have mutations at different points in the cell's DNA. Some cancers take only five or so different mutations, while others require thirteen or more (of the ones that have been figured out so far). So there is no *one* cause for any cancer.

That said, having some particular things wrong makes it waaayyy more likely that a cell will go cancerous. Cigaratte smoke does that to lung cells. There's a gene that does it to breast cells. HPV, a virus, does that for cervical cells. When somebody says something 'causes' cancer, they're really meaning that thing drastically ups the risk by causing a critical mutation or mutations.

So it's true that lifestyle greatly affects your likelihood of getting cancer -- but it's also true that one can get it even if lifestyle is good, but luck isn't. I had just one weak one of the fifteen or so known risk factors for breast cancer, but I still got it. On the other hand, being generally very healthy made it much easier to tolerate the chemo and radiation! :yes: