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mmonroemaniac
01-08-06, 04:54 PM
is this true? my dad told me this, being vegetarian does that mean i can have more, because i love eggs. and eat about 5 a week? thanks for the help. xx:sunny:
Dirty Martini
01-08-06, 05:03 PM
I think people used to say that because they are extremely high in cholesterol -- one egg is about 60% of your daily intake of cholesterol.
I have heard that now eggs aren't as unhealthy as nutritionists were previously saying because of other nutrients they contain, but I still think they're not something to eat in abundance.
meatless
01-08-06, 05:12 PM
Well it depends on what you're basing your decision on. If you're basing it on health, it's best to limit your egg intake since they're high in cholesterol etc. If you're basing it on how much you like to eat them, then eat lots. If you're basing it on the ethics of the egg production industry, you probably shouldn't eat any, ever.
bethany17
01-08-06, 05:32 PM
Did your dad say that as a vegetarian you can only eat 2 eggs per week, or that it was only healthy to have 2 per week? First isn't true though lots of people are against large amounts of milk/eggs(you probably knew that already) But if your vegetarian and still ok with egg eating, yeah it means you can have more...Its probably good if you eat lots because they have vitamins only found in animalish products.
Meatless' reply was right on.
Its probably good if you eat lots because they have vitamins only found in animalish products.
Be careful with that line. Lots of us here don't eat any animal products and we're not exactly dying. ;)
rabid_child
01-08-06, 07:26 PM
I'd personally stick to the free range, vegetarian fed, free of hormones and other things eggs. Also, leaving out the yolk will leave out a lot of the fat/cholesterol. If you're scrambling two eggs, try leaving out one yolk.
shannon1976
01-08-06, 07:57 PM
I would personally go with egg beaters.... That is healthier for you.
I use one whole egg and two egg whites when I cook them. Less cholesterol and still a very good egg taste and consistency. I sometimes have problems with egg beaters as sometimes they are very runny. Most times they are fine though.
lauratiara
01-08-06, 09:08 PM
Well it depends on what you're basing your decision on. If you're basing it on health, it's best to limit your egg intake since they're high in cholesterol etc. If you're basing it on how much you like to eat them, then eat lots. If you're basing it on the ethics of the egg production industry, you probably shouldn't eat any, ever.
I agree with this entirely.
I used to eat eggs for breakfast a lot in my pre-vegan days, and I have found tofu scramble to make a great substitute.
I use Fantastic Foods brand scrambler-Just mix it was a firm tofu
(I like Pete's Herbed Extra Firm Tofu the best personally)
http://www.fantasticfoods.com/catalog/tofu-scrambler-p-61.html?cPath=30
They even have some recipes on the page-if that interests the OP or anyone.
Kind to the chickens, healthier for you, and damn tasty! :)
Tofu Scramblers are very good.
CeilingofStars
01-08-06, 09:24 PM
You *can* eat whatever you want. However, my suggestion, for your health and for the animals, is to never eat eggs at all. It's OK if that takes some transition time. Just slowly cut back on your egg intake while looking for good substitutions! You can buy egg replacer at any health food store and many supermarkets to substitute eggs for baking. Tofu scramble is also a delicious alternative to scrambled eggs! There's no reason anybody needs to eat something that comes out of a (tortured, abused, and slaughtered) chicken's butt!
Dirty Martini
01-08-06, 09:51 PM
:rolleyes: eggs don't come out of a chicken's butt.
And while substitutes are decent, they're not the same as eggs (except for in some baking), sorry. You can't make a hard boiled egg out of ener-g or flax seeds. ;) You could try with tofu, I suppose... that'd be interesting :lol:
MollyGoat
01-09-06, 12:42 AM
There's no point to eating an egg if you don't eat the yolk. The yolk contains all the nutrients. A whole egg, with its yolk and white, is a whole food and can be very good for you. Eating an egg white is like eating white flour.
Eggs from pasture-raised hens are lower in cholesterol, higher in essential fatty acids, and higher in vitamins and minerals than your average, factory farm eggs, and the hens have much better lives too. I'd say several of those eggs a week is very healthy. If you're talking about normal, conventional grocery store eggs, it would be best healthwise to skip them entirely.
CeilingofStars
01-09-06, 01:00 AM
I'm sorry, Oregon Amy, let me correct myself. Eggs come out of a chicken's vagina. Personally, I don't find that preferable.
You're right, it would be pretty hard to make a hard-boiled egg or a fried egg. Otherwise, I haven't lost anything by giving up eggs other than a guilty conscience and much of my chances of getting heart disease or food poisoning.
MollyGoat
01-09-06, 01:04 AM
Otherwise, I haven't lost anything by giving up eggs other than a guilty conscience and much of my chances of getting heart disease or food poisoning.
You're more likely to get food poisoning from sprouts than you would be from eggs. Only something like 1 in 100,000 eggs carries salmonella. Lots of vegan foods can cause food poisoning quite easily.
Libellula
01-09-06, 01:24 AM
i wouldn' tworry about whole eggs carrying salmonella.. i've gotten food poisoning from innocent salad bar items (like cauliflower... ) more than i've gotten food poisoning from eggs (when i was l/o)
Tesseract
01-09-06, 02:32 AM
[biology geek swoops in] Actually, it would be just as fair to say eggs come out of a chicken's 'butt' as it would to say they come out of its 'vagina.' Neither is technically correct, because birds don't have anuses or vaginas per se. They have only one opening in that region of their body, called the cloaca. Feces, urine (although birds don't urinate as we know it either; they excrete crystalline uric acid instead-- the white stuff in bird poop), and eggs all come out that one opening. [biology geek swoops away]
But all of that has nothing to do with the amount of eggs one ought or ought not to eat. If you're morally comfortable with eating eggs, I'm not aware of any reason why 2 per week is some kind of magic number.
zoebird
01-09-06, 01:29 PM
i eat two or more eggs per day (either alone or in things like breads) that are the pasture-fed king that molly mentioned.
the american heart association--with it's misguided (in my opinion, and in others) issue with cholesterol--thinks that one egg a day is healthy for *heart patients* and for those individuals who have various heart problems. For healthy individuals without heart problems, the AHA doesn't really make a recommendation.
Dietary cholesterol can be healthy for you. i could go into the litany about it, but who has the time anymore? anyway, do some research about it on your own, and come to your own conclusions about it.
otherwise, meatless's reasoning is really sound.
remilard
01-09-06, 03:28 PM
Be careful with that line. Lots of us here don't eat any animal products and we're not exactly dying. ;)
You also aren't exactly getting your nutrient requirements from unfortified food either.
CeilingofStars
01-09-06, 07:14 PM
You also aren't exactly getting your nutrient requirements from unfortified food either.
That's not true. The only vitamin/essential nutrient vegans can't get without supplementation is B-12, and the only reason we can't get that is because we wash our vegetables before we eat them. If I grew my own organic garden with fertilizer and such I could get plenty of B-12, but I PREFER to take supplements. :)
Dirty Martini
01-09-06, 07:18 PM
You're right, it would be pretty hard to make a hard-boiled egg or a fried egg. Otherwise, I haven't lost anything by giving up eggs other than a guilty conscience and much of my chances of getting heart disease or food poisoning.
Actually you can make a "fried egg" by thinly slicing tofu (like 1/4" thick), sprinkling it with black salt, and frying it in a pan. Tastes pretty similar.
And you can of COURSE get heart disease as a vegan. Heart disease isn't only caused by eating cholesterol-rich foods. It can be caused by a poor diet overall, a MAJOR contributor of which is saturated fat and fried foods (potato & tortilla chips, fries, soy taquitos, tostadas @ taco bell, etc).
remilard
01-09-06, 07:18 PM
That's not true. The only vitamin/essential nutrient vegans can't get without supplementation is B-12, and the only reason we can't get that is because we wash our vegetables before we eat them. If I grew my own organic garden with fertilizer and such I could get plenty of B-12, but I PREFER to take supplements. :)
I prefer to eat eggs. Why am I not allowed to indulge my preference without criticism?
Additionally, eating unwashed vegetables is not a reliable source of B12.
meatless
01-09-06, 07:41 PM
I prefer to eat eggs. Why am I not allowed to indulge my preference without criticism?
Because your decision to eat eggs causes harm to chickens.
froggythefrog
01-09-06, 08:04 PM
Its probably good if you eat lots because they have vitamins only found in animalish products.
Bethany: What vitamins are these? If you're referring to B-12 and D, there are supplements from vegan sources for those. :)
MollyGoat
01-09-06, 09:12 PM
And you can of COURSE get heart disease as a vegan. Heart disease isn't only caused by eating cholesterol-rich foods. It can be caused by a poor diet overall, a MAJOR contributor of which is saturated fat and fried foods (potato & tortilla chips, fries, soy taquitos, tostadas @ taco bell, etc).
:yes: Also, sugar. Also, lack of B-12 and omega-3 fatty acids. Veg*ns are quite susceptible to heart disease stemming from these areas.
There is plenty of evidence that a veg*n diet is less risky healthwise, but we shouldn't make the mistake of thinking we're immune to things like heart disease (and food poisoning.)
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