Hi.

I am infact just starting out vegetarian. It's easier than i thought, and just my looking at the list of ingredients on the back of packages you learn a lot about what you consume.

Well, on my new favorite past time of reading ingredient lablels, I've stumbled onto a situation. Glycerin. Well, i've done a little research about such an ingredient and it appears that glycerol, glycerin, and glycerine are all the same thing. Well if that's the case than what's the difference between animal fat glycerin and glycerin derived from plants?? Or is it just all mingled in together like some crazy animal fattty- plant glucose chemical?! That said, do i just avoid suchan ingredient altogether or is there some kind of glycerin alternative? Has anyone else had this problem with this ingredient in food and/or drinks?

Also, I waswondering if anyone knows of vegetarian-friendly alcoholic beverages? I'maware of the fining with animal products among other things, and I'd just like to find asafe liquid that I canconsumewithout questioning if i'm consuming crushed animal bonesand whatnot?

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated! :nana:

Hi there! There are vegan beers and wines, just Google it. I dunno which ones are which, because I drink Mexican beer. and sometimes . I don't think tequila is processed with animal products either. Whe I drink wine it's usually white wine. I sometimes drink tequila (good kind, not cheapo cr*p)and I don't think it is processed with animal products. I do shots, so no worries with mixers.....

I don't know the answer, but do you realize that the gummy worms in your avatar are meat? Just because you were researching what was meat and what wasn't...

I don't know the answer, but do you realize that the gummy worms in your avatar are meat? Just because you were researching what was meat and what wasn't...

wow, yes actually.

I hadn't consumed any after going vegetarian. I actually threw some away after reading the ingredient "gelatin" in them. However, I hadn't known this prior to picking the avatar. I just wanted to clear that up for you.

If you didn't know you can get vegan gummi bears,worms,and whatnot from veganessentials.com. For all I know those worms could be vegan. :bow:

I'm not sure about trace ingredients, so I can't help you a whole lot. If you're ever concerned, you can always call the manufacturer/company and ask them. THey are usually happy to answer your questions! As for me, I am a vegan, but I don't concern myself with trace ingredients. I never eat: meat of any kind, gelatin, milk, cheese, whey, casein, eggs, or albumen. I never eat anything that specifically says on the ingredient label that it contains and ingredient derived from animal products. Otherwise, I'm cool!

I just want to note that when you drink alcohol/refined sugars/tap water, you aren't actually DRINKING animal bones. Crushed animal bones are used in the processing of these products, just as animals are used in the production of tires and many other products. Many vegetarians and vegans do not consider this an ethical breach, especially because reducing the consumption of these products doesn't really have an effect on animal suffering. One major school of thought is that these modes of manufacturing will stop once animal consumption is reduced. However, there are always beers/wines/unrefined sugars/unprocessed drinking water alternatives, and you can find them on Google. :) Also, the more whole and unprocessed foods you eat, the less you have to worry about trace animal ingredients!

I would say, if you're really concerned about helping animals, forget about trace ingredients and start making the transition to veganism. Reducing the consumption of eggs and dairy makes SO MUCH of a difference in the every day lives of animals!

Good job on your transition to vegetarianism, though! You deserve so much credit for that!!

I'm not sure about trace ingredients, so I can't help you a whole lot. If you're ever concerned, you can always call the manufacturer/company and ask them. THey are usually happy to answer your questions! As for me, I am a vegan, but I don't concern myself with trace ingredients. I never eat: meat of any kind, gelatin, milk, cheese, whey, casein, eggs, or albumen. I never eat anything that specifically says on the ingredient label that it contains and ingredient derived from animal products. Otherwise, I'm cool!

I just want to note that when you drink alcohol/refined sugars/tap water, you aren't actually DRINKING animal bones. Crushed animal bones are used in the processing of these products, just as animals are used in the production of tires and many other products. Many vegetarians and vegans do not consider this an ethical breach, especially because reducing the consumption of these products doesn't really have an effect on animal suffering. One major school of thought is that these modes of manufacturing will stop once animal consumption is reduced. However, there are always beers/wines/unrefined sugars/unprocessed drinking water alternatives, and you can find them on Google. :) Also, the more whole and unprocessed foods you eat, the less you have to worry about trace animal ingredients!

I would say, if you're really concerned about helping animals, forget about trace ingredients and start making the transition to veganism. Reducing the consumption of eggs and dairy makes SO MUCH of a difference in the every day lives of animals!

Good job on your transition to vegetarianism, though! You deserve so much credit for that!!

Believe me, the whole e-mailing route has gotten me pretty much nowhere. I've basically learned to avoid all these ingredients I can't sayfor surewhat the source it,and I'm perfectly fine.

I'm also very well aware that animal bones are not exactly in the drink, but is used to process it. Maybe I worded it in such away to make you think that you needed to spell it out for me, but not to worry, I understand! Also, because I care about animals and whatnot, I am vegetarian and learning day to day what to eat and what to avoid. I may not be as extreme as you, but then again I've only been living around vegetarianism for about a little over three weeks. I'm trying to do things right,and not make my self sick with such a transition.

The question at hand, however, remains unanswered and only shifted slightly to the angle of, "why aren't you vegan yet?"

Strange.

Inany event, thankyou! This has been a very interesting and fun experience. :vebo:

I recall seeing a listing of vegan-friendly alcoholic beverages and manufacturers recently. If you google around you will likely find it. There are quite a few. I didn't bookmark it unfortunately. Once I found my favorite beer on the list, I was content. LOL

Believe me, the whole e-mailing route has gotten me pretty much nowhere. I've basically learned to avoid all these ingredients I can't sayfor surewhat the source it,and I'm perfectly fine.

I'm also very well aware that animal bones are not exactly in the drink, but is used to process it. Maybe I worded it in such away to make you think that you needed to spell it out for me, but not to worry, I understand! Also, because I care about animals and whatnot, I am vegetarian and learning day to day what to eat and what to avoid. I may not be as extreme as you, but then again I've only been living around vegetarianism for about a little over three weeks. I'm trying to do things right,and not make my self sick with such a transition.

The question at hand, however, remains unanswered and only shifted slightly to the angle of, "why aren't you vegan yet?"

Strange.

Inany event, thankyou! This has been a very interesting and fun experience. :vebo:

Sorry, I wish I could help more! I know transition takes time...it took me over a year to go from pescetarian to full vegan. But I don't think it's "extreme" - I think using animals for culinary purposes is extreme! I'm just leaving them alone. :) All I'm saying is that, if I were you, I would worry less about very very small amounts of trace ingredients and more about obvious contributers to animals suffering. The label isn't very important, but preventing cruelty is. :) Take things one step at a time, but carefully choose which step you're going to take, to make the most benefit!

Sorry, I wish I could help more! I know transition takes time...it took me over a year to go from pescetarian to full vegan. But I don't think it's "extreme" - I think using animals for culinary purposes is extreme! I'm just leaving them alone. :) All I'm saying is that, if I were you, I would worry less about very very small amounts of trace ingredients and more about obvious contributers to animals suffering. The label isn't very important, but preventing cruelty is. :) Take things one step at a time, but carefully choose which step you're going to take, to make the most benefit!

Hello again!

I meant extreme in the meat to vegetable ratio. Maybe it's the wrong choice of word. In any event, yes I do agree, but I feel that every little bit helps. So, by realizing that I'm consuming 'animal glycerine' rather than 'vegetable glycerin' makes a huge difference. However, I do understand not to sweat the little stuff. I guess it's just me dwelling on the little things. It's probably just an extension from my constant obsession to have things right the way I want them. Or mabye it isn't?

I worry about both, and I guess that is what brought me here.

Thanks for posting. :bobo:

I recall seeing a listing of vegan-friendly alcoholic beverages and manufacturers recently. If you google around you will likely find it. There are quite a few. I didn't bookmark it unfortunately. Once I found my favorite beer on the list, I was content. LOL

Yeah, After posting this thread, I found tons of lists. However, i couldn't figure out if Hornsby's was veggie/vegan or not. I e-mailed them and they replied back to me (FINALLY) that there are no animal or animal by products in the making of this product.

I was content as well. :devil: