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Oatmeal
04-22-03, 11:58 AM
***(Since Oatmeal introduced a new topic in the DNR thread, I've created a new thread for it. -FD)
As of euthanasia, I'm all for it - I find the whole debate simply ridiculous. I know I will do it (no matter what any government says), should it come to a hopeless struggle against a terminal illness in the end...
fuzzpuddle
04-22-03, 01:48 PM
check out www.churchofeuthanasia.org
catmorrison
04-22-03, 01:59 PM
funny thing about that website...
If they actually practiced what they preach, would they even have a website???:D
They can go ahead...LOL
I'll just watch.:)
To tell you the truth, I feel that I would also want to take my own life if I were in excruciating pain or something. But, I think there is something to consider: Where is the line drawn? What if I have excruciating pain from a condition which is not life threatening, but debilitating? Should my right to not have to live like that be recognized if I want to terminate my life? I can say right now, I would NOT want to live as a burden to anyone too, aside from the pain. Is euthanasia really different from suicide?
Also, for many people of different faiths, taking one's life is a "sin," and therefore, would not be an option.
I'm for the right to it.
The state should not be able to impose its will on my own body.
Obviously, the state currently has this right as is exemplified by drug laws.
im with ebola. but the fact of the matter is if i want to end MY life then it is in my every right to do so. and dont even get me started on drug laws.
Kurmudgeon
04-23-03, 04:19 AM
I guess I'm mostly for it (I have to be, being a volunteer of http://www.vhemt.org).
One problem I do have with it, though, is when people say they are "tired of life/had a good life" or whatever; isn't that almost like a slap in the face to people who die young without having experienced anything and would like to?
The fact is that suicide is best dealt with through non-legal means. It's an issue of mental health, not criminality.
FemmeDemonica
04-23-03, 11:16 AM
It's all a matter of destigmatizing those with mental health problems, ebola. While the mental health system is leaps and bounds better than it used to be, there's a residual stigma attached those with mental health concerns. Doctors used to do some crazy effed up stuff to mental patients...
That aside, pending the circumstances, I support euthanasia as well.
Your right about the problem of stigmitization.
On the other hand, there are still those would benefit from treatment, so we should not be hasty to throw the mental health system away (as Reagan wished to in the eighties due to cost concerns). Rather, it needs to somehow be radically improved. How, I'm not sure. Any ideas?
BigWaxJesus
04-23-03, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by fuzzpuddle
check out www.churchofeuthanasia.org
Check out the 'AIDS Heretics' link under the links section. It's interesting, especially the fourth article down from the top.
I support euthanasia also.
It shouldn't be too easy available, there have to be certain criteria, but I think it's better than hanging, jumping for a truck or jumping for a train.
(the last two are "common" over here)
carnelian
04-24-03, 08:37 PM
I support euthanasia.
i support youth in asia also.
Originally posted by majake
i support youth in asia also.
What I find disturbing is that I opened this thread to post the same thing. :eek:
Hold me. I'm scared. :eek:
Im totaly for euthanasia or however you spell it, having worked with people with terminal illness's for quite some time i totaly agree with it, it does however somehow have to be moniterd....
freemouse
04-27-03, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by majake
i support youth in asia also.
What this mean? I have no clue:confused:
Slowly pronounce the word "euthanasia" and you will understand. It is a play on words.
Of course, the last time I tried a play on words around here, some weiner schnitzels got their panties all up in a bunch.
freemouse
04-27-03, 05:35 AM
ohhhhh...I got it!
Thanks, Tame:D :)
I am for it too (there should be strict guidelines and all that though)
While I am for euthanasia... and would likely want to do it myself if circumstances warranted me wanting to end my own life, I'd have to take it into heavy consideration.
Suicide is illegal. This means that if you deliberately take your own life, your spouse is unable to collect on your life insurance (in most cases), and in some cases, your spouse would not be entitled to various forms of death benefits. As such, you leave your spouse an assortment of expenses.
I'm not so sure I would want to do that to someone... but at the same time, it is tough to really say until you are in such pain to even consider the ending of your life.
freemouse
04-27-03, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by Tame
Of course, the last time I tried a play on words around here, some weiner schnitzels got their panties all up in a bunch.
Mmmm...shake hands, Tame?:D
for those that support sucide i have a question, where should it be permissible to commit suicide and should any steps be taken by the suicide person to ensure that their body doesnt lie for several days without discouvery and create a stinking disease infested mess, and what types of suicide should be permissible? Would it be ok to blow your head off in a rented apt? Not fair to the landlord if you ask me.
Kurmudgeon
05-03-03, 03:13 PM
That's what I wonder majake. The problem I see with suicide is how it impacts on others (family, friends, the finder, Police, etc).
Miss_Behave
05-05-03, 11:08 PM
I accept the concept of euthanasia in the most extreme of cases. I do not condone it in the way that when someone is feeling a little personal heart ache, that they can then turn to euthanasia to free themselves of this pain. I do however, find euthanasia acceptable in cases where people have parkinsons disease for instance, or are dying slowly and painfully. In the most extreme cases, only though.
Originally posted by Robert
Suicide is illegal. This means that if you deliberately take your own life, your spouse is unable to collect on your life insurance (in most cases), and in some cases, your spouse would not be entitled to various forms of death benefits. As such, you leave your spouse an assortment of expenses.
That's interesting. Is that the law in Canada? In most states in the U.S., the insurance company is required to pay in the case of suicide.
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