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mysteriouspoet
11-15-05, 11:14 AM
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mysteriouspoet
11-15-05, 11:17 AM
Just a note: I do not like Jamie Oliver. At all.

Scythe
11-15-05, 11:34 AM
I know, if you're good at it, cutting an animal's throat can be very quick. Generally the spinal cord is severed, but I'm not sure if that was the case here, since he didn't know much about it.

But People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals praised the programme for showing the brutality that exists in Britain's slaughterhouses.

What has that got to do with slaughterhouses? Especially in Britain?

inie
11-15-05, 12:02 PM
Well, since he cookes with meat, I don't think it makes him more horrible for killing the lamb, then only using it for his cooking. Maybe it's even a good idea to show on tv where the meat actually comes from.
On the other hand, if the lamb was slaughtered in a less humane way then they usually are, then that is of course a bad thing... Ah well.

Poppy
11-15-05, 12:05 PM
Everyday I am renewed on my veg*n journey. How wonderful it is not to want to eat or kill lambs.

meatless
11-15-05, 12:07 PM
Poor lamb. :cry:

BoricuaVeggie
11-15-05, 12:15 PM
humans are crazy.

VeganForHealth
11-15-05, 12:19 PM
Imagine having to listen to Jamie Oliver's hyper-spazzy prattling while hanging upside down, and then having that idiot slit your gullet.

Annikat
11-15-05, 12:23 PM
Would I have watched if he were just cooking the lamb? Yes, because I would love to go to cooking school and I love learning how to cook all kinds of foods. (Veg and nonVeg)

Would I have watched the slaughtering? No, because I have a death issue and I can't even watch movies with bloody deaths.

Tofu-N-Sprouts
11-15-05, 12:43 PM
I'm with Annikat; I will watch virtually any cooking show - even with the meat-filled ones I can often glean some useful cooking tip or technique...

BUT...there is NO WAY I would have watched this - I have major issues with anything like that.

I realize his intent was to show the source of our food, from where it starts to how it ends up on our (well, not MY) plate - he's done this with wheat (gone out with the combines in a wheat field) and fruit (gone picking apples) etc., and though it's a horrible thing to do, maybe this will make people more aware that those lamb-chops they love actually came from a real, live, warm, fuzzy LAMB! :cry:

Tesseract
11-15-05, 12:59 PM
I'm ambivalent about this... on the one hand, ICK! UGH! :cry: :sick: And the idea that the lamb might have suffered more under his hand than in the slaughterhouse... well, we'll never know for sure, will we? If it had been killed in the slaughterhouse, maybe it would have been stunned properly, maybe it wouldn't.

On the other hand, maybe raising public awareness of exactly what it takes to make a lamb chop by showing it live on TV isn't such a bad thing. I think if we all had to watch an hour footage from a slaughterhouse, there'd be a lot more vegetarians.

I like how Jamie freely admitted he didn't really want to do it and didn't know if he could. At least he has some seed of a compassionate human being somewhere inside him. Of course, I'd like him better if he had decided not to do it and not to eat meat anymore.

PS: If that foil-loving little idiot says 'easy-peasy' one more time, I think I may personally travel to England and :whack: him.

Bryn
11-15-05, 01:11 PM
It's good for showing pople where there meat comes from. Most Omnis I know couldn't kill an animal, let alone a lamb. The only reason there not veggie is there in denile, hopefully this will shock a few of them out of it.

Morna
11-15-05, 01:29 PM
Slitting an animal's throat is one of the most humane ways of killing it. Done correctly, death is immediate...the animal feels little or no pain. Though I am not for killing animals for food, this lamb was killed in a much more humane manner than they usually are. After being transported in crowded, filthy trucks without any climate control, they are prodded with electric rods and are hung by one leg and moved to throat-slitting blades. Usually they are stunned before being hung up, but it doesn't always work. Peta's video "Meet your Meat" shows cows still kicking and struggling.

das_nut
11-15-05, 01:40 PM
The teeming millions have no problems cooking with meat, and they have no problems consuming meat.

But show one lamb being slaughtered on television, and everyone is up in arms.

I don't believe I've ever seen an objection to a gardening show harvesting food from the field and eating it on the set...

:think:

Sevenseas
11-15-05, 01:45 PM
This resembles the hunter vs. omni -question. That is, I think this is ****ed up, and I guess I would lean more towards the view that it's more ****ed up than mere consumption of meat.

ilovemydragon
11-15-05, 01:53 PM
Would I have watched if he were just cooking the lamb? Yes, because I would love to go to cooking school and I love learning how to cook all kinds of foods. (Veg and nonVeg)

Would I have watched the slaughtering? No, because I have a death issue and I can't even watch movies with bloody deaths.

You are stronger then I am. I can hardly touch, and I rarely do, my daughters Oscar Meyer Turkey slices.

FreshTart
11-15-05, 02:40 PM
The teeming millions have no problems cooking with meat, and they have no problems consuming meat.

But show one lamb being slaughtered on television, and everyone is up in arms.

I don't believe I've ever seen an objection to a gardening show harvesting food from the field and eating it on the set...

:think:

Perhaps every meat cooking show should have a slaughter at the beginning.

ETA: if it made people more aware, that is, about where their food came from, it may be helpful to show the lamb on every show.

Then again, the theory falls down when you look at people who have seen animal death their entire life and don't want to be vegetarian.

mysteriouspoet
11-16-05, 12:11 AM
You are stronger then I am. I can hardly touch, and I rarely do, my daughters Oscar Meyer Turkey slices.

Maybe you should encourage your daughter to go vegetarian. I wish my mom had done that for me. :-/

Oh man, Tesseract...don't remind me. Easy-peasy...he is so @#$%^&* annoying, in every possible way a person can be annoying. And I think it's really stupid that he calls himself the Naked Chef. Why not, "The Simple Chef" or "The Basic Chef"? I think he just hopes to get people to watch his show, 'cause everyone's desperate and hopes they'll see someone naked. :p

FreshTart
11-16-05, 12:15 AM
I like his shows. Also, the work he did for British school lunches was quite wonderful and ground breaking.

Katt Fink
11-16-05, 12:15 AM
Is it bad that I have no freaking clue who Jamie Oliver is?

FreshTart
11-16-05, 12:22 AM
Katt -- http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/J/jamies_school_dinners/

Katt Fink
11-16-05, 12:23 AM
Hmm.. doesn't ring a bell. I need to watch more FoodTV.. but it's hard because every time you turn around, Rachel Ray, that infernal wench from hell is on!

FreshTart
11-16-05, 12:28 AM
I dislike her.

Smoothie
11-16-05, 12:29 AM
f***ing tw*t

carried
11-16-05, 12:31 AM
Is it bad that I have no freaking clue who Jamie Oliver is?
I don't know him either:-/