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chibi_chang
11-14-05, 07:29 PM
it's great being vegan, but having to read all the ingredients ( including ones that are half a page long!!!!) is just a pain in the @$$!!!

ate some bread yesterday 'n then found out it had eggs in it...

AHH feeling so...clogged

my mom is smirking evilly at me, and almost saying right out "good for you, i knew you wouldn't hold for long..."

eih.....

do i haf to avoid all breads on the market?

cus they either hav EGGS, or MODIFIED MILK INGREDIENTS, or LACTYLATE...

do i haf to eat triscuits for the rest of ma life or wat? ><

Libellula
11-14-05, 08:25 PM
no, you don't have to avoid all commercial breads on teh market..

nickles 100% whole wheat bread is vegan
the baker's inn brand breads are vegan (at least, the 100% whole wheat bread is)
ezekial sprouted breads are vegan

Aussyj
11-14-05, 08:31 PM
Hi! Nice to see an ACTUAL vegan joining the race to do better in life. Nice to meet you!

Now, onto the problem at hand! Ignore your mother, and don't faulter just because you made a simple mistake. I understand that some ingredients are long, but many times it is necessary to read the FULL list! Many foods may seem vegan, but later you may find that they have a no-no ingredient in them. Just take your time! Besides, once you know that something is vegan, later you can buy it/the product again without worry. So, take your time!

About the bread: Do you have a health store around? Many health stores carry Vegan breads in them. I know for a fact that it is damn near impossible to find a vegan bread at stores like Wal-mart! (At least, here it is. We searched for like and hour before... Also, watch for the " Mono and Di-glycerides, as they can be animal derived, if not otherwise specified.) If you do not have a health store around, unfortunately you may have to search through a lot of ingredients! ( Below I have listed a few vegan breads that I found on a list. READ THEM ALL if you plan to buy one. Some are only vegetarian, and may contain Eggs. )

Brumby's Bakeries

- "Brumby's basic breads do not contain meat or meat derivatives (i.e. white,
wholemeal, 12 cereal, rolls, French sticks, fruit buns, etc.)... Brumby's breads do
not contain animal fats at all, only vegetable oil (preferably canola)... Some of our
sweet lines contain eggs or egg solids.
These include Banana Bread, Carrot Cake, Lamingtons, etc. Again, it is wise to
ask at store level on the particular product you wish to purchase..."
(Details correct as at March 2002)
- Brumby's also state their products do not contain gelatine.
- Brumby's Clifton Hill sells a selection of vegan cakes, sticky buns and even
vegan doughnuts.
For more info refer to our Great Places to Shop page.
- Brumby's Clifton Hill uses a dough improver that does not contain L-Cysteine.1
(Details correct as at September 2003)

Country Life Bakery 1

As at November 2004:
"Both emulsifiers 471 & 481 are derived from soya bean. They are free from
animal product."
As at November 2002:
The following breads are suitable for both vegetarians and vegans:
RYE SOUR DOUGH
Loaf 900g
Rolls Pkt 6
Pocket Bread Pkt 6
Fruit Loaf 500g
Fruit Buns Pkt 6
ORGANIC RYE SOUR DOUGH
Loaf 900g
Mini Loaf
Dark Rye & Grains 450g
Country Grain Organic 680g
Rolls Pkt 6
Pocket Bread Pkt 6
OTHER BREADS
Hi - Soy 450g
Rye Hi - Soy & Linseed 450g
LONG LIFE PITA BREAD
The following breads are suitable for vegetarians only:
Lupin Loaf 600g
Truly yeast Free 680g
The following breads are NOT suitable for vegetarians or vegans:
SPECIFIC DIETARY BREADS
Gluten Free 450g
Gluten Free Multigrain 500g
Gluten Free Rolls (Pack of 4)
Gluten Free Swiss Rolls 300g
Rice Bread 450g
OTHER BREADS
Alpha Life 680g
High Fibre Wholemeal 680g
PerforMAX 780g

Healthybake 1 (Details correct as at November 2003)

Healthybake breads "do not contain any animal products". Most flours used are also certified organic. Available in most health food stores, organic fruit and veg stores, and IGA supermarkets throughout Victoria.
Organic White Spelt Bread
Organic Wholemeal Spelt Bread
Organic Wholemeal Spelt Rolls
Organic Spelt Pizza Base
Organic White Spelt Fruit Buns
Organic Ancient Grains & Seed Loaf
Organic White Kamut Bread
Organic Wholemeal Kamut Bread
Rye Fruit Nut & Seed Loaf
Yarra Valley Light Rye
Organic Rye Grid
Organic Oat Sourdough
Organic Oat & Sunflower
Organic Pharaoh Bread
Organic Pharaoh & Linseed Bread
For more information, refer to www.users.bigpond.net.au/healthybake

Laucke Home Bread Mixes (Details correct as at October 2003)

"Laucke Flour Mills... use unbleached flour and do not add preservatives or protein modifiers such as 9201 and 282."

Purebread Bakery 1 (Details correct as at September 2005)

Purebread Bakery, 114 Union Road, Surrey Hills VIC 3127, Ph: 03 9836 3789
This bakery is located near Surrey Hills Station. They have 15 different types of loaves, all are vegan and are made with organic flour and the tins are lined with vegetable oil. All breads are sourdough (therefore yeast-free) except for the baguettes and foccacias. Types of loaves include rye, olive and fruit.


Don't threat on the mistake. I have a tendency to do that, and it isn't too healthy! Move on and call it what it was, a mistake. You learn something from it, and you know that that particular bread is not vegan-safe. My brother and I had these mistakes many times when we first began vegan.

Be safe! Also, stay Vegan! :D Wish you luck.

VeganForHealth
11-14-05, 08:44 PM
Once you bake your own, fresh out of the breadmachine, with Smart Balance Light, you'll thank your lucky stars that veganism made you go looking.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004R93S/102-8325965-3549730?v=glance&n=284507&v=glance

chibi_chang
11-14-05, 10:45 PM
thnks for the lists guys, quite helpful ^^

and thnks vfh for mentioning baking one's own bread... but the machine is just ... costy ._.!!! 'm cheap, or rather, poor (sounds better -_-;)

i'll try to make my own bread from now on

thnks for all ur help!

Tofu-N-Sprouts
11-14-05, 10:50 PM
I run into the bread problem all the time too - and unfortunately all the breads people list are never available in my area. I have four major supermarket chains within three miles of me and NONE of them carry a single vegan whole-grain bread.

I can tell you plain spongy generic store-brand white bread is usually vegan (and devoid of any nutrition usually too - but if you really just want bread...) ALSO rye bread and Sourdough are *usually* vegan - read, read, read the labels and when you find a vegan bread stick with it so you have to read one less label (OK, I usually re-check every couple months to make sure they haven't changed...)

I see you're in Toronto, Chibi, so I wouldn't know what to suggest either, but look at ingredient lists online (look for current lists, ones that say "accurate as of Nov. 2003" are quite likely NOT accurate any more...).

Good luck, bread is the one item I have the hardest time finding. (And homemade is great but sorry, I still prefer store-bought for sandwiches and such.)

VeganForHealth
11-14-05, 11:09 PM
thnks for the lists guys, quite helpful ^^

and thnks vfh for mentioning baking one's own bread... but the machine is just ... costy ._.!!! 'm cheap, or rather, poor (sounds better -_-;)

i'll try to make my own bread from now on

thnks for all ur help!

I'm pretty cost conscious too, actually. FYI, Ebay has bread machines going for as little as $15.00. You might do pretty well if you keep an eye out for a good price on one.

I'm too lazy to do anything other than throw stuff into a bread machine and let it do it's thing. It makes clean-up easy too. I like a bread machine because it lets me make different kinds of bread to make a vegan diet more interesting.

If you get one, I guarentee that your mom would be begging for a slice instead of smirking at you!

(Do what I would do. Buy her a bread machine for Christmas. ;) )

chibi_chang
11-15-05, 12:14 AM
haha alright, i'll watch for one on ebay or something

'm just starting out being vegan, i've NEVER EVER had to check so many lables before

after i finish reading the lable of one load my dad's on the other side of the store...

and i hav this list of non-vegan ingredients in my pocket, so look, compare, look, etc... ><

bread is such a big problem

in Toronto there's cheap bread too, but they're in this plastic box thing and don't hav any lables...

ahhhhh

Adagio
11-15-05, 01:23 AM
I'm just starting out being vegan, and I've never, ever had to check so many labels before.

I'm kind of strange... I read everything in what I ate even before I became a vegan. It's... soothing...

;)

chibi_chang
11-15-05, 01:33 AM
...soothing...ogod, we must be living on different conscious levels here o_o

kiddin'. :)

i find too much pleasure in eating i guess, could never wait to dig in

*might be a problem...wait, it IS a problem!!!

Libellula
11-15-05, 01:53 AM
i always found it ironic that in my household, we dont' have a bread machine and yet i've always delighted in making homemade breads...

chibi_chang
11-15-05, 08:18 PM
you just use the oven right?...does it use more electricity to use the oven? our neighbour uses oven to bake bread all the time, maybe i should ask her.

anthony11
11-15-05, 08:28 PM
I run into the bread problem all the time too
I sometimes see The Bread Garden bread in stores. The Whole Wheat French, at least, seems to be vegan.
(OK, I usually re-check every couple months to make sure they haven't changed...)
Yeah, change happens. I tend to read the label every time I buy.

On the Ezekiel breads -- don't they contain honey? I know there's a reason I don't buy them, maybe it's that they're crumbley.

Amy SF
11-15-05, 08:32 PM
My problem with the Ezekiel breads is that they tend to be very dense in texture, and I like breads that are a little lighter in taste. But I don't believe they contain honey, at least not all of them.

anthony11
11-15-05, 08:40 PM
My problem with the Ezekiel breads is that they tend to be very dense in texture
That's probably why I usually pass them by.

chibi_chang
11-15-05, 09:07 PM
why do they (the stores) make bread such a problem for vegans?

all through north america too, it seems. ._.

Schoska
11-15-05, 09:23 PM
No help..just a Q.
Does this tend to be more of a US or Canadian issue? If anything I have found that 90% of the bread I've come across in Belgium and the UK has been vegan.

The only thing I have noticed is that a lot of UK breadmaker recipes call for powdered skimmed milk

MorningCalm
11-15-05, 09:39 PM
Milk powder gives bread a softer texture, as do most commercial dough enhancers (generally glorified whey powder). I think the typical bread machine manufacturer assumes people want to duplicate the taste/texture they're accustomed to getting at the store.

As for baking your own without a bread machine, it's really not that complicated. When I was growing up, we made all of our own bread -- five loaves at a time, at least twice a week -- in the oven. When I got my own place and bought a bread machine (seemed a more efficient way to make one loaf at a time), I actually didn't like it as well as the old oven-baked stand-by.

Schoska
11-15-05, 09:43 PM
I use my bread machine ( i don't often use the powdered milk then) and I bake by hand....I alter depending on the loaf I am doing.
Regardless of method, bread made at home is so yummy! There's something great about that smell that fills the house *dribbles*
Plus it is a lot cheaper which is always a bonus!

chibi_chang
11-15-05, 09:46 PM
the bread in toronto seem very dependent on an ingredient called "lactylate"...

even the very hard and dry french breads...

Adagio
11-16-05, 03:21 AM
the bread in toronto seem very dependent on an ingredient called "lactylate"...

even the very hard and dry french breads...

Sodium steroyl-2-lactylate is what's in everything I look at. It's a leavener. That or whey powder.

:grr: