View Full Version : Why it is important to boycott UPS
Diana
October 22nd, 2005, 12:28 PM
Because they ship animals to HLS.
cromlixghost
October 22nd, 2005, 02:30 PM
Hey, thanx Diana, im gon, target them, 4rm now on, {peacefully} I know HLS well, {tho have never been there}.
Ghost
TangledUpInBlue
October 22nd, 2005, 08:37 PM
Done. I use UPS some when I do online shopping. But not anymore. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Diana.
epski
October 23rd, 2005, 01:10 AM
UPS is a crap delivery service anyway, so that's an easy boycott to promote. ;)
Morna
October 23rd, 2005, 01:43 AM
I kinda wish I wore makeup now so I could NOT buy makeup tested on animals. If animal testing cures cancer (which killed my grandma) then MAYBE I'd be Ok with it, but makeup? No way.
kpickell
October 23rd, 2005, 03:08 AM
I've heard that HLS also sends some corespondence through the USPS, so please be sure to boycott them as well.
IamJen
October 23rd, 2005, 03:39 AM
<<<sneaks in and changes kp's name to "devil's advocate" :D
epski
October 23rd, 2005, 03:53 AM
I've heard that HLS also sends some corespondence through the USPS, so please be sure to boycott them as well.
They'd probably consider it a favor...
Diana
October 23rd, 2005, 03:56 AM
kpickell: Please open another thread if you want to discuss the strategies of international boycotts. I would be pleased to discuss them with you and to discuss the merits (or not) of targetting only a few selected companies and how and why this strategy has worked in the past in numerous instances.
peace
October 24th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Quote: If animal testing cures cancer (which killed my grandma) then MAYBE I'd be Ok with it,
But unfortunately it hasn't, despite billions of dollars and countless test animals sacrificed through the decades. The fact that we still can't cure cancer and other tough, serious ailments begs the question why we don't move toward new research methods. (Please accept my sympathy for your loss, btw)
TangledUpInBlue
October 24th, 2005, 10:05 PM
I thought I'd point this out, as I found it interesting. I just placed an order on PETA's website and one of their shipping options is UPS.
John Olexa
October 24th, 2005, 10:45 PM
Wow! didn't know that will NOT use UPS anymore!!!
Diana
October 25th, 2005, 02:24 AM
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alekolu
October 25th, 2005, 04:29 AM
While it's a good idea in theory, I don't think that boycotting UPS will make much of a difference. The people at UPS are just being good businessmen (or women) by honoring a shipping contract that is beneficial to their pocketbooks. It's not their fault or concern that Huntingdon Life Sciences sucks. I suppose that if enough people boycotted UPS, they would eventually have to take notice, but one-time-only shipments by individuals are small potatoes compared to large corporate freight contracts.
If no-one ships the animals… they will no longer be able to be tortured.
Even if a boycott of UPS were to work and stop UPS from shipping these animals, Huntingdon Life Sciences is just going to seek out another freight company that will. There are many, many freight companies out there, and I guarantee that most of them would snatch up this contract in a heartbeat if UPS decided not to do it anymore.
With all due respect, there's gotta be a better way to stop this madness.
missfruity
October 25th, 2005, 04:46 AM
UPS is a crap delivery service anyway, so that's an easy boycott to promote. ;)
I couldn't agree with you more.;)
Diana
October 25th, 2005, 10:53 AM
While it's a good idea in theory, I don't think that boycotting UPS will make much of a difference.
Targetting specific companies for boycotting is an excellent strategy in any struggle. It needs to be seen of course in a global context, and it is only one of the many bricks in the wall.
Having been an anti-apartheid activist for many years in the olden days, and having seen the benefits of targetting certain companies, I feel absolutely confident that if this boycott was picked up by more and more animal lovers and activists, that this could be the start of a big ball rolling...
Never discount the importance of boycotts.
Irizary
October 25th, 2005, 10:56 AM
alekolu - clearly you're not familiar with this campaign. Due to all kinds of activist pressure, many, many companies do not want to be involved with HLS, and will not "snatch up" this contract, because they don't want to be on the radar next. This campaign is working better than all others I know of, in terms of getting companies to sever their contracts. The boycotts are just one part, but they're an important part, because they're something that the average person who's sympathetic but doesn't want to go out and do protests can do. It's important for individuals to let the company know why they're being boycotted. But they're getting the message that HLS is not a company they should want to continue to do business with on many fronts. Businesses like UPS don't respond to compassion and ethics, they respond to economics.
John Olexa
October 25th, 2005, 05:30 PM
John: Don't forget to drop them a line (or two or three or four or five...) telling them you're not using them anymore and why.
No Problem. Consider it done!
remilard
October 25th, 2005, 05:44 PM
kpickell: Please open another thread if you want to discuss the strategies of international boycotts. I would be pleased to discuss them with you and to discuss the merits (or not) of targetting only a few selected companies and how and why this strategy has worked in the past in numerous instances. This thread however is about UPS and the international boycott of them. Thank you.
Why select UPS and not the other companies that facilitate HLS's work?
(By the way, the United States Postal Services (it took me some time to figure out what USPS is - many people forget that there are non US members on these boards) do not ship animals to HLS, so you've obviously missed the point here.)
USPS operates in your country.
Irizary
October 25th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Why select UPS and not the other companies that facilitate HLS's work?
Other companies *are* targetted as info becomes available. Some don't lend themselves to consumer boycotts, and some seem to get more notice at one time as opposed to another because it might make sense strategically to focus on some selected companies that make a difference to operations.
Diana
October 26th, 2005, 03:48 AM
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Red
October 26th, 2005, 05:25 AM
Persistent if nothing else. What's it been? 5, 6 years now?
Diana
October 26th, 2005, 05:33 AM
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