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Gnome Chomsky
10-10-05, 02:35 AM
Is the Eucharist vegan?

ebola

AngelOfDance
10-10-05, 02:46 AM
it's flour and water as far as I know. the host is vegan.

As far as the wine is concerned, there may be something about filtering it through fish bladders, but I'm not entirely sure.

If you're talking in the "omfg it's Jesus's body!" sense, then it's still vegan because, in keeping with the Catolic idea that the host really IS Jesus's body and the wine really IS his blood, Jesus gave both to his people willingly.

vegan_angel411
10-10-05, 03:14 AM
I was raised Catholic. I think the Eucharist is only supposed to be unleavened flour and water.

frenchie
10-10-05, 12:17 PM
I'm not Catholic, though I was baptised Catholic as a baby. My inlaws are Catholic...very Catholic....anyhow, this subject has been brought up in the past..in length...*truely* it is vegan....not sure about the wine, but the wafers are definately vegan.

Gnome Chomsky
10-10-05, 01:20 PM
>>If you're talking in the "omfg it's Jesus's body!" sense>>

You guys KNOW I am. :)

ebola

remilard
10-10-05, 01:29 PM
Pretty clearly not, assuming faith in transubstantiation is present. Jesus can give it willingly all he wants (like your mom) but isn't the stock answer to questions about rescued chickens laying eggs or some cow that purrs like a kitten when its milked that it may not be unethical to eat those products but it is certainly not vegan?

So I guess my answer is the eucharist is not vegan (since eating animal products is my definition not vegan) but that partaking in it is ethical nontheless.

Diana
10-10-05, 01:43 PM
According to Cartman (South Park), Eucharist is definitely vegan, because Jesus turned himself into a cracker. (I get a lot of my information from South Park - they know stuff that normal human beings don't.)

Gnome Chomsky
10-10-05, 02:31 PM
I'd say more, but I'm rather busy chowing down on Jesus, placentae, and milk from purring cats.

ebola

Jinga
10-10-05, 03:53 PM
So you're talking about the literal idea of consuming the blood and body of Jesus, not just the wafer and wine? I remember this topic coming up before, because I had to ask my mom her opinion. I was raised Catholic, but never took the blood and body thing literally. Guess thats why I was a bad Christian. Now I'm a heathen.

catswym
10-10-05, 05:21 PM
well, protestants are christians too, and we don't believe that the juice or cracker becomes the actual blood and body of jesus, but only a representation of it.

as for the contents of the cracker and juice--i don't know. every church i've ever been to uses something different.

this topic is so overplayed.

Diana
10-10-05, 05:25 PM
So you're talking about the literal idea of consuming the blood and body of Jesus, not just the wafer and wine? I remember this topic coming up before, because I had to ask my mom her opinion. I was raised Catholic, but never took the blood and body thing literally. Guess thats why I was a bad Christian. Now I'm a heathen.

Well, as you're a heathen now, you could eat weird pink marshmallowy things for Eucharist! You could start up a new sect: "The Weird Pink Marshmallowy Church of Heathens."

kirkjobsluder
10-10-05, 05:31 PM
Didn't we have this convesation already?

Elis
10-10-05, 05:47 PM
Pretty clearly not, assuming faith in transubstantiation is present. Jesus can give it willingly all he wants (like your mom) but isn't the stock answer to questions about rescued chickens laying eggs or some cow that purrs like a kitten when its milked that it may not be unethical to eat those products but it is certainly not vegan?

So I guess my answer is the eucharist is not vegan (since eating animal products is my definition not vegan) but that partaking in it is ethical nontheless.

No offence, but by that definition breastfeeding is not vegan either. Which seems kind of silly to me.

frenchie
10-10-05, 07:03 PM
No offence, but by that definition breastfeeding is not vegan either. Which seems kind of silly to me.

Agreed, very silly and totally untrue.

eggplant
10-10-05, 07:26 PM
While we're at it, why don't we discuss semen again too?

kirkjobsluder
10-10-05, 07:27 PM
I would say that if one believes in transubstantiation, then the question of whether it's vegan or not is a short leap of faith.

naturalsusta
10-10-05, 07:30 PM
ummm, what's Eucharist?

I haven't heard of it before.

kirkjobsluder
10-10-05, 07:31 PM
While we're at it, why don't we discuss semen again too?

Yeah, let's.

Ludi
10-10-05, 07:51 PM
ummm, what's Eucharist?

I haven't heard of it before.


Taking communion.

Joe
10-10-05, 09:03 PM
Didn't we have this convesation already?

Yes. About six months ago.

Question about Catholic vegans
http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=35375

Skylark
10-10-05, 11:57 PM
I don't believe in transubstantiation, so it's a non-issue for me. And I'm not vegan.

Jinga
10-11-05, 12:11 AM
Well, as you're a heathen now, you could eat weird pink marshmallowy things for Eucharist! You could start up a new sect: "The Weird Pink Marshmallowy Church of Heathens."

Whoot! :evil: :evil: :evil: Thats a grand idea. I'm not sure what the point of that sect would be. Sticking it to the man? While we're at it, I'm not sure of the point of this thread either.

:pibo: <--- Imagine thats a dancing pink heathen marshmallow.