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soilman
May 14th, 2003, 07:32 PM
Loki writes: "the products used to state that mycoprotein was mushroom in origin. It has since been changed"
Hmmm. I wouldn't be surprised, seeing how they are still trying to get their fungus to appear closer to the familiar mushroom, than it really is, by saying it is in the same "family" as mushrooms, when in fact, family is really the wrong word to use. It is in the same kingdom, and the same phlylum, as mushrooms. It is not in the same class (next division after phylum), order, family, genus, or species.
quorn fungi and mushrooms are both in the Kingdom fungi, and the phylum ascomycetes. They are in different classes.
Humans are classified like this: kingdom animalia, phylum chordata (all animals with nerve cord down the back); subphylum vertebrata (all chordates with segmented backbones enclosing the nerve cord, now called a spinal cord, including fishes, reptiles, amphibians, birds, and mammals; class mammalia (all warm blooded animals with mammary glands, who nurse their young); order primate (you know what they are); family hominidae (hominids, upright); genus homo, species sapiens.
By using the word family it could easily be conceived that they are trying to say that quorn is as close to mushrooms as modern humans are to ancient extinct humans; but in reality quorn is only as close to mushrooms as humans are to chordates like lancets, and fish.
So people are exaggerating on both sides of the issue. marlow is exaggerating by saying quorn is as close to mushrooms as humans are to ancient humans, when in fact the distance is like that of humans to fish; Robbins is exaggerating in the other direction by saying than quorn is as close to mushrooms as humans are to jelly fish, when in fact the distance is like that of humans to fish with backbones, not humans to (spineless and dorsal nerve-cord-less) jellyfish.
VegiBean
May 15th, 2003, 07:13 AM
I used to eat Quorn when I was a vegatarian-loved the roast-was gr8 for xmas dinner. But now i'm vegan-alas i can eat it no more! Thats just one of those things tho aint it!!
dvmarie
November 29th, 2003, 03:42 PM
Anti-Quorn homepage - http://www.cspinet.org/quorn/
This was an intresting site (the quorn stuff - but also the entire site). Thanks for posting it.
VeggiTash
November 29th, 2003, 04:34 PM
I used to eat a fair amount of Quorn, but no longer do so because in most of their products the egg comes from battery hens. Their products with free range egg in are vegetarian society approved, but most aren't :(
I've deliberately found alternative (vegan) fake meats now -- I'm starting to avoid all products with egg in them because it's likely it'll be from battery conditions and that's just gross :sick:
FalafelsRule
November 29th, 2003, 07:51 PM
this is one food i wouldn't even eat if it were vegan.
rabid_child
November 29th, 2003, 10:34 PM
You know, I tried it once or twice, it wasn't bad, wasn't anything special, but reading about so many ill effects, I don't think I'd have it again. Not worth the projectile vomiting.
Loki
November 30th, 2003, 02:04 PM
You know, I tried it once or twice, it wasn't bad, wasn't anything special, but reading about so many ill effects, I don't think I'd have it again. Not worth the projectile vomiting.
lol. Don't worry about the side effects. They're definitely over-hyped. It's been eaten widely in britain for years, and I haven't heard of any side effects, and pretty much everyone i know has tried it. Even the omnivores. I'v enot heard of any side effects myself. I definitely thik they're over-hyped.
Draekyn
November 30th, 2003, 09:32 PM
I've had the nuggets and the ground crumbles (in chili) and thought they were pretty good. Regular Quorn consumption doesn't really fit into my budget, so its more of an occasional purchase for me.
Sola
November 30th, 2003, 10:40 PM
I'v eaten quorn and have no side effects.(BTW I'm in the UK)
I hardly eat much of it. Right now I have a box of quorn pie and a box of quorn sausages. Tempted to buy some of that cauldren stuff. But as a treat as it's expensive. I mostly eat tesco's veggie burgers, soy and veggie. I used to eat Delpacks veggie brands but they've disappeared from the freezer. But the meat side of them is fine. ??? Maybe Tescos replaced Delpacks products. They had veggie society approved. :(
Veggiegirl
December 12th, 2003, 04:00 PM
I must admit after reading this thread I was afraid to try Quorn products. My omni husband, who never goes grocery shopping or cooks, had a well balanced dinner waiting for me when I got home. He had gotten the Quorn cutlets. I had to ask him if they were meat, knowing that he would never let me eat meat. They were really good, we both liked them. They seem a little too real.
borealis
December 12th, 2003, 07:36 PM
I just tried the Quorn chicken-style patties for the first time, a couple hours ago. So far so good -- no violent gastronomical reactions. :sweat: I tend to agree with Loki about the ill effects being over-hyped. When I was working at the local food co-op I didn't hear of any cases, and the way people love to b*tch and moan there, I definitely would have.
I probably won't have it all the time because of the expense and the egg, but for days on which I want something fast and easy I will probably try it again. Flavor-wise, definitely a thumbs-up. :up: The breading crisped up well in the oven and was nicely spiced. The interior was very tasty and had a good texture. I'm not much of a sammich person so I just had it plain. I think it would make a good chuckwagon style patty, with some vegetarian gravy on top and a side of fluffy mashed spuds. :lick:
Loki
December 13th, 2003, 12:31 PM
Quorn is being attacked mainly by the CSPI. I have no idea if the center for consumer freedom has decided to bitch about the CSPI being the food police over this. (mainly because it would go against their anti-veg principles to do so.) but personally, I think it's a crock of sh*t. yes, there are some people allergic to quorn, and these people are people with allergies to things like eggs and fungus. People are also allergic to nuts, but you don't see me trying to get nuts banned.
soupdragon
December 13th, 2003, 05:09 PM
I used to eat a fair amount of Quorn, but no longer do so because in most of their products the egg comes from battery hens. Their products with free range egg in are vegetarian society approved, but most aren't :(
I've deliberately found alternative (vegan) fake meats now -- I'm starting to avoid all products with egg in them because it's likely it'll be from battery conditions and that's just gross :sick:
I'm vegan now but when I was veggie I wouldn't eat quorn for the same reason. It really upsets me, because quorn is so blatently marketed at vegetarians and yet it uses battery eggs, I think most people who buy it don't even know this, grrr stupid quorn. I never liked the stuff anyway, fake meats scare me.
Fenguin
December 14th, 2003, 09:01 AM
People are also allergic to nuts, but you don't see me trying to get nuts banned.
Bump for the crazy peanut allergy crew (http://www.peanutallergy.com/bbpage.htm). They seriously want peanuts to be removed from society, and actively boycott businesses that serve ANY items that have peanut or peanut-derived ingredients. Makes for some amusing (or scary) reading.
Black Heart
December 14th, 2003, 02:28 PM
I was vegetarian for about 10 years and I used to eat quorn all the time! I used to love it, especially the deli 'meats' - I think it's these that are Vegetarian Society approved. It's used in restaurants here in the UK sometimes.
My boyfriend eats it now instead of meat sometimes and he's an omni. I never had a problem with it being from a mycoprotein - sure, it's highly processed, but I've never eaten fake meat products because they are wholefood. I don't think it's disgusting at all and nobody I know has had a bad reaction to it.
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