I think I already know the answer to this one but I just need someone to tell me for sure. What is the difference between vegetarian and strict vegetarian? I see people on here putting that they are a strict vegetarian. Is this someone who doesn't eat eggs, cow's milk, or cheese in the obvious way, but still eats trace ingredients that are found in some products, and therefore cannot call themselves a vegan? If so, that describes myself. No biggie, but was curious... Thanks. :)

i'm not sure about that one either, but i think it's another way of saying vegan. i could be wrong.

I think some people mean it as vegan, others mean they avoid by products such as beef stock and geletain. It depends upon your interpretation I suppose.

they avoid by products such as beef stock and geletain.

this is what I mean when I call myself a "strict vegetarian" I know a few who call them selves vegetarian but (to me) are not cuz they eat animals even if its small amounts

I think "strict vegetarian" is usually used to refer to those who eat no animal products whatsoever, including trace ingredients. "Vegan" refers to more than just diet, because it also involves avoiding non-food items of animal origin (like leather, and so on). Vegans are all strict vegetarians, but not all strict vegetarians are vegans. :)

I think "strict vegetarian" is usually used to refer to those who eat no animal products whatsoever, including trace ingredients. "Vegan" refers to more than just diet, because it also involves avoiding non-food items of animal origin (like leather, and so on). Vegans are all strict vegetarians, but not all strict vegetarians are vegans. :)

That's the way I've always thought of it.

I think the end of this thread was interesting re. vegan/vegan products...
http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=39277

I think "strict vegetarian" is usually used to refer to those who eat no animal products whatsoever, including trace ingredients. "Vegan" refers to more than just diet, because it also involves avoiding non-food items of animal origin (like leather, and so on). Vegans are all strict vegetarians, but not all strict vegetarians are vegans. :)
Yup, that's what I thought, too. :yes:

I think "strict vegetarian" is usually used to refer to those who eat no animal products whatsoever, including trace ingredients. "Vegan" refers to more than just diet, because it also involves avoiding non-food items of animal origin (like leather, and so on). Vegans are all strict vegetarians, but not all strict vegetarians are vegans. :)
yeah.

Vegetarian (when you use it as different from lacto-ovo-vegetarian) and strict vegetarian are the same (or almost the same, I don't know about trace ingredients), neither is the same with vegan.

i think it gets really confusing when you have someone who's lifestyle (products, etc) are vegan, but whose diet is not vegan (lacto-ovo-vegetarian, for example). you know?

I used to be like that. I'd have vegan cosmetics, shampoo etc etc, but eat small amounts of say, egg in a cake or something occasionally. I just called myself vegetarian.

Okay, thanks guys. This clarifies it for me. :)

Okay, thanks guys. This clarifies it for me. :)


Clear as mud... :)

I think strict vegetarian, as other people have said, is someone who eats no meat-containing products. Vegetarians are classified under different headings (or they were up until a couple of months ago). You can get 'vegetarians' who only eat white meat, and you can get 'vegetarians' who eat fish, which slightly contradicts the term 'vegetarian'.

peace and love amy-jane xx

Uh... no, you can't get vegetarians that only eat white meat or fish, but then, I guess you already knew that. :D Though when I first became lo-vegetarian I never cheated, and I had people refer to me as a "strict vegetarian", meaning a vegetarian that never cheats on her diet.

That's the way I've always thought of it.

but I don't ware leather ether

I think strict vegetarian, as other people have said, is someone who eats no meat-containing products. Vegetarians are classified under different headings (or they were up until a couple of months ago). You can get 'vegetarians' who only eat white meat, and you can get 'vegetarians' who eat fish, which slightly contradicts the term 'vegetarian'.

peace and love amy-jane xx

peopel who call themselves "vegetarian" and then still eat an animal annoy me, They are not vegetarians that title is were you eat zero animals, were the only time you eat any dead animals is by mistake(like in trace ingredients). I use to know one who told everyone she was one but there she was eating fish, this was before I became a vegetarian and it still annoyed me that she would call herself that when it was an animal she was eating.

What if you are somewhere between a strict vegetarian and a vegan? Are you just a lax vegan then? Where does strict vegetarianism end and relaxed veganism begin? I don't want to label myself anymore. :p

I think "strict vegetarian" is usually used to refer to those who eat no animal products whatsoever, including trace ingredients. "Vegan" refers to more than just diet, because it also involves avoiding non-food items of animal origin (like leather, and so on). Vegans are all strict vegetarians, but not all strict vegetarians are vegans. :)
Exactly.

And CK - in some respects, vegans may elect on some occasions to consume animal products (see discussions on social situations, image, and freeganism). But I don't call that lax, just practical.

Well, I am not eating meat, or gellatin. Or at least I am trying not to eat it. But I am lacto so I am drinking soy milk but I am not eating eggs because, they come from a chicken and they are just unformed chickens.

But, I am doing like cream cheese and what not. Because a cow can die if it is not milked and milking is painless so I don't see any reason it is not a good idea. I mean its not like killing them for meat when they keep them in a tiny cage or what not, they get to eat hay and stay in the pasture. I think milk is fine.

But, I am doing like cream cheese and what not. Because a cow can die if it is not milked and milking is painless so I don't see any reason it is not a good idea. I mean its not like killing them for meat when they keep them in a tiny cage or what not, they get to eat hay and stay in the pasture. I think milk is fine.


painless? http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=98

But, I am doing like cream cheese and what not. Because a cow can die if it is not milked and milking is painless so I don't see any reason it is not a good idea. I mean its not like killing them for meat when they keep them in a tiny cage or what not, they get to eat hay and stay in the pasture. I think milk is fine.


This is absolutely NOT true unless you are buying seriously organic milk from a small farm. www.milksucks.com