http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/31/atkins.bankruptcy.ap/index.html

:nana:

:bobo: Eat greens!:D

Atkins did NOT die from a fall! He died from heart diease,. They are just trying to cover it up with a fall.

I'm very happy to hear the business is failing. Atkins makes me mad!!

Atkins did NOT die from a fall! He died from heart diease,. They are just trying to cover it up with a fall.



Your proof?

I think you can find Atkin's death certificate on the internet (but it could be a fake)

As far as I know Atkins died from a blunt force to the head (fall) with an epidural hematoma (bleed in the brain). He died at the weight of 258 lbs, but his family says that was because of 60 lbs of bloating in his 2 week hospital stay (Bloating can happen in a two week stay in the ICU or CCU but I don't know whether or not 60 lbs worth of bloating is possible)

His medical history included an MI (heart attack) CHF (congestive heart failure) and HTN (high blood pressure). To me that would generally indicate that he had heart disease. But his wife states that he had cardiomyopathy for three years prior to death (she doesn't say what type of CM, but says it was caused by a viral infection, so I am going to guess Dilated or Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy) and that also could explain the MI, CHF and HTN. He didn't look healthy the last couple years of his life. But, he was 72. Who knows how healthy I will look at that age.

Not surprising. I'd rather take up smoking to lose weight than that bloody diet. If I had any extra weight to lose, anyway.

I swear these threads need tape.

I heard this on the way to work...I just emailed it to my bacon chomping bf :D

Ahaha. Finally the company is as financially bankrupt as their diet was nutritionally.

<--Is presently gloating.

This made my day! :vebo:

As far as I know Atkins died from a blunt force to the head (fall) with an epidural hematoma (bleed in the brain). He died at the weight of 258 lbs, but his family says that was because of 60 lbs of bloating in his 2 week hospital stay (Bloating can happen in a two week stay in the ICU or CCU but I don't know whether or not 60 lbs worth of bloating is possible)

Of topic but this is possible. Trauma like that causes a lot of edema. A few years ago, I was in an accident that put me in a coma for nearly 2 months. At the time of the accident, I was roughly 105-107 lbs. In the hospital, I weighed between 145-150 lbs.

I don't like to gloat, but :vebo:

well, it was going to happen sometime, and I'm kinda glad that consumers have ditched atkins. It was a good diet for weightloss, but for maintaining health, it was folly.

I came across this article and would like to share it. The fad is waning and Atkins Nutritionals has filed for bankruptcy. Sorry, but the link takes you to the parent page. To get to the article scroll down and click on the link under "Columnists" (on the right hand side).

http://www.kgoam810.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.time.com/time/columnist/morrow/article/0,9565,169869,00.html

So wait...you're saying that all but eliminating the body's main energy source from one's diet was just a fad and not a sustainable lifestyle change??

I've got a good feeling about the low carbon diet though. You can eat as much of the other elements as you want, but you can only eat 25 grams of carbon per day.

I've got a good feeling about the low carbon diet though. You can eat as much of the other elements as you want, but you can only eat 25 grams of carbon per day.

:lol:

Mmm...plutonium... :drool:

Hey, I'd love to know more about the low carbon diet :)

B

FYI - Merged two threads.

well, it was going to happen sometime, and I'm kinda glad that consumers have ditched atkins. It was a good diet for weightloss, but for maintaining health, it was folly.

True Loki!

Atkins himself, was obese when he died. Let's all follow his diet advice! :rolleyes:

Putting the die in diet.

Was just doing some random searches, and happened to come across this thread.


Not to purposefully go against the grain or anything, but I was once obese, and I got a bloodwork checkup. I had really bad cholestroal, high blood pressure, and a serious chance of developing diabetes.

I went on the atkins per the motivation from a girlfriend who was also on it and said she had great success. After a year or so on that, I lost a tremendous amount of weight, with only minimal exercise, and my bad health was going away. Fewer bad cholestroals, more good cholestroals, fewer triglycerides.

It helped me get to a proper, healthy weight, so I guess even though I dont like eating meat(which the atkins diet emphathizes vegetables more than anything anyways), I still get a bit upset sometimes when I hear people who are uneducated go on about the unhealthiness of the atkins. I am proof of its weight loss benefits, and health benefits. And by the way, losing weight does not always equate to a healthier body, in case anyone wanted to suggest that its because I lost the weight that I became healthier.



Not like i'd ever go back on the diet now though, with my newfound distaste for meat.

I still get a bit upset sometimes when I hear people who are uneducated go on about the unhealthiness of the atkins. I am proof of its weight loss benefits, and health benefits.

Insectlover -

I seriously doubt that anyone here is uneducated about the risks involved in the Atkins (and other low-carb) diet. In fact several very well respected physicians have written extensively about the risks and unhealthy effects of the Atkins diet. The include Doctors Dean Ornish, Neal Barnard and John McDouggall, as well as researcher T. Collin Campbell. Surely you wouldn't go so far as to call these esteemed doctors and researchers "uneducated"? Or would you?

One of the pushes in the Atkins diet was to put your body into a state of ketosis as "proof" that you were sticking to the diet and that it was working. Ketosis as a good thing? As the child of a diabetic I am very familiar with just how ketosis is not a desirable state. Yet the Atkins group pushes this as a "good thing" and a desireable state for your body.

Yes. You will loose weight on the Atkins diet. But the risks you run to do it are, in the opinion of many physicians, not at all worth the possible benefits.

Insectlover -

I seriously doubt that anyone here is uneducated about the risks involved in the Atkins (and other low-carb) diet. In fact several very well respected physicians have written extensively about the risks and unhealthy effects of the Atkins diet. The include Doctors Dean Ornish, Neal Barnard and John McDouggall, as well as researcher T. Collin Campbell. Surely you wouldn't go so far as to call these esteemed doctors and researchers "uneducated"? Or would you?

One of the pushes in the Atkins diet was to put your body into a state of ketosis as "proof" that you were sticking to the diet and that it was working. Ketosis as a good thing? As the child of a diabetic I am very familiar with just how ketosis is not a desirable state. Yet the Atkins group pushes this as a "good thing" and a desireable state for your body.

Yes. You will loose weight on the Atkins diet. But the risks you run to do it are, in the opinion of many physicians, not at all worth the possible benefits.


Just like all things, there's huge controversy and debate from both sides. You can find just as many very qualified doctors and physicians that will praise atkins as well.


As for Ketosis. I think you are mistaken. Ketosis is not unhealthy and not related to diabetes, you are mistaking Ketosis with Ketoacidosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketoacidosis


Two VERY distinctly different things. There's nothing unhealthy about Ketosis.