Paul Mitchell: What's the deal?

[toadstool]

I've heard that Paul Mitchell products are cruelty-free. Is this true? Does this mean they don't include animal products... or are they just not tested on animals?

[Amy SF]

This is from their website http://www.paulmitchell.com


Cruelty-Free
John Paul Mitchell Systems® is devoted to making the world a better place with CEO John Paul DeJoria working to ensure the company follows earth-friendly policies and strategies. Some of his efforts include:

• Making Paul Mitchell® the first hair care company to publicly oppose animal testing.
• Creating aerosol products that meet stringent Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC) standards in California.
• Harvesting botanicals without harm to the environment
• Using giant solar panels to harness the sun’s energy on our Awapuhi Farm, on the North Shore of Hawaii.

John Paul DeJoria strives to make John Paul Mitchell Systems® an example for other companies to follow. "Corporations can and should change the world for the better. We have the perspective needed to leave the world a better place for our having been here." – John Paul DeJoria.

However, I see nothing so far that mentions not containing animal products.

[remilard]

Most of the PM products do not contain animal products. Silk protein is in a couple, beeswax may be in a couple. At least 90% of the products are vegan.

[Skylark]

Remilard, where did you find that information?

All things considered, I have much fewer ethical qualms about buying hair-smoothing gloss drops from Paul Mitchell than anything from Mary Kay, Revlon, etc.

[remilard]

Remilard, where did you find that information?

All things considered, I have much fewer ethical qualms about buying hair-smoothing gloss drops from Paul Mitchell than anything from Mary Kay, Revlon, etc.

Someone posted a response from the company to the same question elsewhere, a while ago. I don't remember the exact PM products that are not vegan (I use the same 3 products and don't really try a lot of new stuff) but anyone could email them I believe and get the list of products which are not.

[Wolfie]

Paul Mitchell not only doesn't use animal testing but also puts his money where his mouth is and donates to AR. Or at least he used to years ago. I haven't checked into it lately.

[dustbunny]

hello, i am new to this board. I love how everyone here is so friendly. :)

Anyways i am sorry to bump this board back up, but i saw a Paul Mitchell commercial on tv saying that if you see any of his products at any other store besides a hair salon, that it is not a REAL Paul Mitchell product and the place that is selling it just made it look like one to make a profit.

Does any one know anything about this? I only saw the commercial once and that was a few weeks ago. I know it is sold in my local grocery store and i really wanted to buy some of his products there, but i dont want to if it is fake and tested on animals.

thanks for any replies!

[Gracie]

If the products are sold in a grocery store, they may be fakes, or they may be diverted products. Diversion is when products are sold by distributors (or stolen and sold) to retail outlets that aren't authorized to sell the product.

If you buy a Paul Mitchell product from a salon, and you don't like it, they should refund your money without giving you any trouble. In turn, the salon can get a refund from PM. The products are guaranteed every step of the way. But if you buy them from a grocery store, nobody is guaranteeing anything.

The bottom line is, if you're buying professional products, buy them from a salon. It's the only way to know for sure that you're getting the genuine product, and that the company is getting their profit.

[Arilark]

Remilard, where did you find that information?

All things considered, I have much fewer ethical qualms about buying hair-smoothing gloss drops from Paul Mitchell than anything from Mary Kay, Revlon, etc.

Please forgive my ignorance why is Paul Mitchell better than Mary Kay. And I heard Revlon was sold recently does anybody know who bought them?

[pershing7e]

The answer is simple, Paul Mitchell is one of the leading Professional Haircare companies to stop other stores besides professional salons from carrying thier product. The term for this is called "diversion", I am a hair stylist and can say that if you buy a product in a grocery store, department store, or elsewhere besides a professional beauty salon you run the risk of buying old, counterfeit products. Paul Mitchell is one of the leading companies also to never have tested on animals even their recently launched "john paul pets" is only tested on humans. there are a few products that do have beeswax and silk proteins, but those are mostly in his hair color lines and strengthening shampoo line, but everything else is completely vegan, using awapuhi, tea tree, sunflower, etc.
but to answer your question again, it is true some people are selling paul mitchell in grocery stores and it is not safe or even legal, because it is counterfeit and a breach of contract with the PM company




hello, i am new to this board. I love how everyone here is so friendly. :)

Anyways i am sorry to bump this board back up, but i saw a Paul Mitchell commercial on tv saying that if you see any of his products at any other store besides a hair salon, that it is not a REAL Paul Mitchell product and the place that is selling it just made it look like one to make a profit.

Does any one know anything about this? I only saw the commercial once and that was a few weeks ago. I know it is sold in my local grocery store and i really wanted to buy some of his products there, but i dont want to if it is fake and tested on animals.

thanks for any replies!

[razor]

the info about Paul Mitchell being the 'first to not test on animals' is false.

AVEDA has never tested on animals(30+ years)and doesn't do the TV commercials that PM does, but that doesn't make any difference.

AVEDA just had their 30th anniversary and all those years they have pushed the envelope on what a PROFESSIONAL hair company can do in terms of naturally derived ingredients and organic and/or wild plants and flower essences to use in their hair care and styling products.

i am also a Hairstylist and have avoided animal ingredients in hair products from day one[20 yrs ago] of going vegetarian(later vegan ).
i've been involved with AVEDA for the 9+ years of doing hair and they've gotten better at their sourcing.

they also use SYNTHETIC make up brushes, not animal hair, which is what almost ALL of the make up brushes in the world use.

the only things that contain ingredients sometimes not accepted by some vegans are beeswax in the lip line, and honey in the Phomollient.

also, AVEDA is rarely DIVERTED because they have a tighter control on the sale and delivery of their products to salons and stores.

[joyjoy]

the info about Paul Mitchell being the 'first to not test on animals' is false.

AVEDA has never tested on animals(30+ years)and doesn't do the TV commercials that PM does, but that doesn't make any difference.

AVEDA just had their 30th anniversary and all those years they have pushed the envelope on what a PROFESSIONAL hair company can do in terms of naturally derived ingredients and organic and/or wild plants and flower essences to use in their hair care and styling products.

i am also a Hairstylist and have avoided animal ingredients in hair products from day one[20 yrs ago] of going vegetarian(later vegan ).
i've been involved with AVEDA for the 9+ years of doing hair and they've gotten better at their sourcing.

they also use SYNTHETIC make up brushes, not animal hair, which is what almost ALL of the make up brushes in the world use.

the only things that contain ingredients sometimes not accepted by some vegans are beeswax in the lip line, and honey in the Phomollient.

also, AVEDA is rarely DIVERTED because they have a tighter control on the sale and delivery of their products to salons and stores.

I really don't see anything wrong with Paul Mitchell. They're doing a great job standing for what they believe and always have friendly, professional service. And all the employees/stylists/cosmotologist are really educated and thats a real breath of fresh air. I haven't met anybody with a problem with paul mitchell which is why I have switched all my products to PM and I've never been happier with what I now use.