I know that it's probally hopeless, but I feel horable if I don't do anything.

My cat got a bunny this morning and it pretended to be dead by going all limp, but when I went to try to scold the cat, it dropped the bunny and the bunny was alive! It's sitting in my screened-in porch right now, but it has some rather large battle wounds, and is bleeding... I want to take it to the nature center, but I have no way of getting there.

Untill then, I havn't really done anything, because I know that it's probally hopeless anyway... I have some benedrill, but will that hurt a bunny? should I wrap it in gauze (it's steril) or just let the bunny go? :cry: I wish mommy would keep the cat in at night, but she always lets it out, and I have a pet bird, so it can't stay in my room. :cry:

does it have a hiding place out of the open? that would probably reduce its stress until you can get help for it.

Yeah, the gauze is a good idea. Do you have access to a car? If so, wrap it in the gauze and put it on the seat or on a pillow (cover it with more gauze or paper towels). We had an issue just like this with a squirrel and we put him in a rather large cardboard box filled with paper towels and rove him to the nature center.

I'll try the gauze as soon as i finish cooking. My sister said that she might take me to the nature center after she wakes up (I woke her up from her important sleeping to ask, how could I ??? ;) ) The bunny is currently hiding behind some pots on the screened deck, which I think helps him calm down, listening to the birds and all of that. I think I'll empty out my big plastic junk holder and do as you sugested, putting him/her in there. The only prob. with this is that then he/she can't look outside.

Thanks!

The bunny is currently hiding behind some pots on the screened deck, which I think helps him calm down, listening to the birds and all of that. I think I'll empty out my big plastic junk holder and do as you sugested, putting him/her in there. The only prob. with this is that then he/she can't look outside.
maybe rather than placing the bunny in something . . . you could place a box on its side, then obscure part of the open area with something to make it more sheltered while still leaving an opening.

maybe rather than placing the bunny in something . . . you could place a box on its side, then obscure part of the open area with something to make it more sheltered while still leaving an opening.

That sounds good... ugh, I can't wate till I get it to the nature center, because I know that they can care for her/him.
Thanks for your help, I feel horrable for the poor bunny.

so how did things work out for the bunny?

so how did things work out for the bunny?

My sister (grrr) let the cat into the house, the screened door leading to the sreened porch was shut, but the cat was able to jar it open, reach into the box, grab the bunny and run off with it... or at least that's what I'm asuming, because the sick/bleading bunny suddenly wasn't there and the doors were jared right after my sister let the cat in... I would have sat with the bunny, but that's not natural for it, so I left it out there where it could be outside. :cry:

I even told my sister not to let the cat inside, but did she listen? nooo :cry: :whack:

Can I ask a question? Are you letting your cat run loose outside without supervision? If so, I hope you'll reconsider. Cats that are let outside kill birds and small mammals in huge numbers. If you're letting the cat go outside, then it's probably killing all sorts of things besides just the rabbit. Keeping cats indoors is better for the cat (they live longer) and the wildlife!

Some people's cats used to kill my dad's rabbit kittens. I was -><- close to hiding in the yard with the shotgun and blowing the bastards in half. I was going to leave the results on the doorstep of the assholes who let the cats out. In the end I put up strings where they jumped in so that they bounced off instead of getting into the hutch. Cats should be kept inside. If that is considered too cruel, cats should not be pets.

oriole, I think the problem is that Jennifer isn't calling the shots in her household, being only 15-16. :)

My three cats are indoor only! They kill birds only in their imagination. :)

If you are not going to take the cat's prey to the vet's immediately, and they are very cut up, you should put them down. Slow death do cat bite is not pleasant.

I think perhaps you should kill the cat, so that it cannot harm any more rabbits. This seems to me to be the best compromise in this situation, given that there is no ideal answer; no matter what you do, animals are going to suffer.

Cats are in no danger of extinction. While rabbits are not endgangered either, their numbers are reduced. Cats, on the other hand exist way in excess to the numbers that the environment would naturally support. This is because humans support and help cats, and do little to support and help rabbits. Your cat may have already killed many rabbits, many rabbits that you do not know about, and may kill many more, without your knowing about it.

I think perhaps you should kill the cat, so that it cannot harm any more rabbits.
Nice provocation. :rolleyes:

Can I ask a question? Are you letting your cat run loose outside without supervision? If so, I hope you'll reconsider. Cats that are let outside kill birds and small mammals in huge numbers. If you're letting the cat go outside, then it's probably killing all sorts of things besides just the rabbit. Keeping cats indoors is better for the cat (they live longer) and the wildlife!

Not replying to only this quote, just generally to people who said to keep the cat inside. Living in a very countryside area with wildlife all round, and having a cat who loves to hunt, i'd totally disagree with these statements. Imo it's nature, and as much as i dislike the idea of my cat hunting and eating rabbits i'd never try and prevent him from doing so. Mainly because firstly to prevent him doing so i'd have to keep him indoors constantly and i know he'd hate this and secondly because i don't believe there's anything ethically wrong with him killing a rabbit/bird or whatever. He's a cat it's in his nature, why stop him from doing something he naturally does?

Unfortunately it's a fact of life that animals kill other animals lower down the food chain and it's something you have to live with. Of course if my cat brought home a half live rabbit i'd do everything i could to save it and prevent him from harming it further, which may be a slight contradiction in my beliefs. But i would never stop him from going out to hunt. It just seems unethical to me, you're attempting to control an animals natural instincts.

Can I ask a question? Are you letting your cat run loose outside without supervision? If so, I hope you'll reconsider. Cats that are let outside kill birds and small mammals in huge numbers. If you're letting the cat go outside, then it's probably killing all sorts of things besides just the rabbit. Keeping cats indoors is better for the cat (they live longer) and the wildlife!

I know, as I mentioned above though, it's not up to me, it's up to my mom, who refuses to allow the cat to stay in at night.

I think perhaps you should kill the cat, so that it cannot harm any more rabbits. .


i think that is not right,
the cat is just doing what it dose it is part of being a cat to find food for it slafe
but that is just my thoughts on the mater :)

Imo it's nature, and as much as i dislike the idea of my cat hunting and eating rabbits i'd never try and prevent him from doing so.

NATURE is the native animals that have evolved over millions of years existing in harmony with their predators and their prey. Your cat is non-native (they're really aren't any similar native animals in North America that regularly hunt birds - bobcats and foxes aren't equivalent). More importantly, your cat is subsidized. It gets fed at home, I assume. So it can spend all the time it wants hunting birds, mice, squirrels, chipmunks, etc. As a result, cats can have a much greater impact on animal populations that native predators. So, your cat isn't part of nature - it's people mucking with nature in a bad way..

Unfortunately it's a fact of life that animals kill other animals lower down the food chain and it's something you have to live with. Of course if my cat brought home a half live rabbit i'd do everything i could to save it and prevent him from harming it further, which may be a slight contradiction in my beliefs. But i would never stop him from going out to hunt. It just seems unethical to me, you're attempting to control an animals natural instincts.

True, animals kill one another. The issue with cats is that their are so damned many of them. Estimates are that cats kill something on the order of 100 million birds in the U.S. each year! No wonder populations of many birds are declining. Basically, by letting your cat outside, you're saying, "the happiness of my cat is more important than the survival of declining native birds like the wood thrush and ovenbird." If you're ok with contributing to the gradual extinction of our native songbirds to keep your cat from being "unhappy," then I think you need to rethink your priorities.

And remember - indoor cats live about twice as long as outdoor cats.

Not replying to only this quote, just generally to people who said to keep the cat inside. Living in a very countryside area with wildlife all round, and having a cat who loves to hunt, i'd totally disagree with these statements. Imo it's nature, and as much as i dislike the idea of my cat hunting and eating rabbits i'd never try and prevent him from doing so. Mainly because firstly to prevent him doing so i'd have to keep him indoors constantly and i know he'd hate this and secondly because i don't believe there's anything ethically wrong with him killing a rabbit/bird or whatever. He's a cat it's in his nature, why stop him from doing something he naturally does?

Unfortunately it's a fact of life that animals kill other animals lower down the food chain and it's something you have to live with. Of course if my cat brought home a half live rabbit i'd do everything i could to save it and prevent him from harming it further, which may be a slight contradiction in my beliefs. But i would never stop him from going out to hunt. It just seems unethical to me, you're attempting to control an animals natural instincts.

Your pet cat is not part of nature. Your pet cat is not natural. If you can't look after a cat without it killing other animals (which is NOT natural, unless your cat is a wild species) then you shouldn't have a cat. If my rabbits are threatened because people want their domesticated animals to be 'natural' those animals and those people will have problems.

... So, your cat isn't part of nature - it's people mucking with nature in a bad way..

True, animals kill one another. The issue with cats is that their are so damned many of them. ...



Thank you Oriole.

I don't want to criticise Jennifer89, as the choices to own a cat and how to care for it were probably made before she was old enough for me to hold her fully responsible for those choices, and were probably not made entirely by her, but by other family members. Saying "I want a cat" when you are 10 years old, and having your family get one -- I did the same thing with a dog when I was that age and it wasn't until I saw its life, and read about animal husbandry's affect on the environmnent that I decided it was a poor choice. And I don't feel guilty for saying daddy daddy please get me a dog. Nor do I blame my father as he was not educated enough about the environment to make a better choice. I simply want to get the message out here, that Oriole got out. Education, education, education.

Soilman: ok we get that you're against animal domestication and owning pets but telling a young girl to kill her pet, a member of her family who i'm sure she loves, is possibly the most insensitive, rediculous thing i've ever seen you post. you should apologize to her.

anyway sometimes having a pet does not mean that we went out and bought a cat from someone who breeds them, sometimes we're giving a home to a homeless animal in need that cannot fend for itself in the wild. if you see something wrong with that perhaps you're on the wrong site.

Jennifer, maybe you can look up some info online about housecats vs outdoor cats and give it to your mom to consider. i have seen many a dead cat on the road lately, mainly in rural areas where people think it's cruel to keep their cat inside when they can roam and catch mice in the fields cause it's natural. yeah but is it natural for the cat to run out on the highway (probably while hunting something) and get flattened by a transport truck? not to mention all the parasites and diseases they can catch that could make them very very sick and possibly die.

i'm sorry about the bunny :( maybe he got loose on his own but if so he was probably too injured to get far and likely didn't make it either way. it's sad but this is what happens when cats roam free. i only ever let my cat outside with a harnass and leash when i am with him. the only things he hunts are bugs and toy mice. and he's quite happy.

Living in a very countryside area with wildlife all round, and having a cat who loves to hunt, i'd totally disagree with these statements. Imo it's nature, and as much as i dislike the idea of my cat hunting and eating rabbits i'd never try and prevent him from doing so. Mainly because firstly to prevent him doing so i'd have to keep him indoors constantly and i know he'd hate this and secondly because i don't believe there's anything ethically wrong with him killing a rabbit/bird or whatever. He's a cat it's in his nature, why stop him from doing something he naturally does?

You may form a different opinion about this when your cat fails to come home because he's been killed by a racoon, a loose dog, a coyote or whatever else might prey on your cat. And there are people of torture cats for fun, even in the country.

Cats belong indoors.

You may form a different opinion about this when your cat fails to come home because he's been killed by a racoon, a loose dog, a coyote or whatever else might prey on your cat. And there are people of torture cats for fun, even in the country.

Cats belong indoors.

Actually i've thought very much into this. After losing several cats over the years through getting run over by cars or just going missing and i can honestly say that yes i would be absolutely devastated if something happened to my cat but i'd take the same view i have previously. Thats life, people and animals die there's nothing i can do about it, i just try and ensure that while he's living, he's as happy as possible so that when he does eventually leave us i'll be able to know that he had a good life. Plus the likelihood of him getting eaten by a raccoon of coyote in England is very slim.

As for the several comments relating to my cat not being natural and that by letting him out I'm contributing to the loss of animals that are becoming more and more endangered. To me my cat is natural, he like any living thing has natural instincts and i for one refuse to control them. Maybe i do need to rethink my priories or whatever but i really think it's cruel to keep a cat that wants to be outside inside and nothing anyone says or does is going to change my opinion on that.

Thank you Oriole.

I don't want to criticise Jennifer89, as the choices to own a cat and how to care for it were probably made before she was old enough for me to hold her fully responsible for those choices, and were probably not made entirely by her, but by other family members. Saying "I want a cat" when you are 10 years old, and having your family get one -- I did the same thing with a dog when I was that age and it wasn't until I saw its life, and read about animal husbandry's affect on the environmnent that I decided it was a poor choice. And I don't feel guilty for saying daddy daddy please get me a dog. Nor do I blame my father as he was not educated enough about the environment to make a better choice. I simply want to get the message out here, that Oriole got out. Education, education, education.

The cat is about three or so, and my mom (stupidly) chose to get it from the pet store... I was old enough to say no, but at the time, I was so excited about having a new pet that I didn't think that this pet would end up killing many animals. The fact that I was old enough to educate myself and didn't, well, it's imposable to know everything. I regret owning a bird now since I can see the differences of a caged bird and a free bird, but I can not let my bird free because Lily (the bird) is tropical and I live in North Carolina, and because she wouldn't know how to get food and otherwise survive. I do not regret owning a dog, because Bosco was a rescued dog and otherwise woul have only gone to another house, as long as you get a dog from a shelter type of place, you are doing no harm, you are probally saving the dogs life, or A dogs life... untill more people spay and neutor, there will be those homeless pets that need a loving family. The only reason why I regret the cat, is because it did NOT come from a shelter, it came from a pet store, which I believe you should never purchase a dog or cat from, because those animals have more then likely purposely been bred... because people don't want there preciase dog to be unique and mixed, it has to be "pure"...

Well I have had many a debate on this w/ my co-workers who believe that cats belong outside as well as inside even though they have lost 1 or 2 to cars or something else.
The problem w/ there being so many cats & having to euthanize them is due to PEOPLE not spaying & neutering there pets. Rabbits & dogs as well have a huge overpopulation problem.
My cats are indoor cats & they get to go on a balcony & look out the window & that's it. They are safe & I know they are.