My answer is a resounding no.

According to dictionary.com the answer is no.

The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=murderer

Perhaps not by definition but some soldiers have commited murder while on duty...

Perhaps not by definition but some soldiers have commited murder while on duty...

Answer the same way you would answer: "Are vegetarians murderers?" or "Are the British murderers?"

Oh geez here we go. I'll sit this one out.

According to dictionary.com the answer is no.



http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=murderer

Damn. I was going to say that.

Damn. I was going to say that.

When in doubt look in the dictionary, that's what I say! :up:

Some are, some aren't.

Answer the same way you would answer: "Are vegetarians murderers?" or "Are the British murderers?"

Just trying to highlight the fine line between killing in the name of duty/war and just plain murder.

For example, bombs dropped from planes killing (albeit non-targetted) innocent women and children is murder by anybody's standards but is acceptable to military minds.

Just trying to highlight the fine line between killing in the name of duty/war and just plain murder.

For example, bombs dropped from planes killing (albeit non-targetted) innocent women and children is murder by anybody's standards but is acceptable to military minds.


Duty: An act or a course of action that is required of one by position, social custom, law, or religion.

When is killing EVER duty?!?!

I guess we shouldn't be mad at the people who raise cows to eat them... It's their duty.

When is killing duty?!?!?!?!

<sigh>

I guess if someone was attacking your home or children with intent to kill you would just sit back and let it happen.

I guess invading Germany and liberating those concentration camps was a bad idea?

No point in asking whether soldiers' actions fit the legal definition of murder. As for a moral/rhetorical sense of 'murderer', I'd just say that obligations to obey your superiors don't necessarily remove personal responsibility.

Come to think of it, this is actually a really stupid question in many ways.

<sigh>

I guess if someone was attacking your home or children with intent to kill you would just sit back and let it happen.

I guess invading Germany and liberating those concentration camps was a bad idea?

If someone came into my house to kill my child, yes I would have no problem stabbing that person right in their head. That is self defense. I didn't put MYSELF in that situation. You can't tell me that anyone who joins the military by their own decision doesn't think they're going to have to kill someone.
ALSO- War is man-made, caused by man. Who invented war, and for what purpose? Mankind put himself in this position.

If someone came into my house to kill my child, yes I would have no problem stabbing that person right in their head. That is self defense. I didn't put MYSELF in that situation. You can't tell me that anyone who joins the military by their own decision doesn't think they're going to have to kill someone.
ALSO- War is man-made, caused by man. Who invented war, and for what purpose? Mankind put himself in this position.

But you'd just sit back and let those concentration camps kill people by the millions?

But you'd just sit back and let those concentration camps kill people by the millions?

Don't you get it??? If man hadn't created war, there wouldn't BE concentration camps.... If saving people from those types of things had to do anything with war, maybe my views would be diffirent, but the fact is that for the most part, it doesn't.

Don't you get it??? If man hadn't created war, there wouldn't BE concentration camps.... If saving people from those types of things had to do anything with war, maybe my views would be diffirent, but the fact is that for the most part, it doesn't.

That makes so much sense that I could almost fill a thimble with it.

Don't you get it??? If man hadn't created war, there wouldn't BE concentration camps.... If saving people from those types of things had to do anything with war, maybe my views would be diffirent, but the fact is that for the most part, it doesn't.

:lol:

So it's OK to kill people to protect your loved ones. Perhaps if an invading army was trying to kill your loved ones you'd consider it OK to establish an army to ward off this attack?

And if you saw that bad people were doing bad things to other people, you'd consider rescuing them using force, if necessary?

Or are we just supposed to closer our eyes and wish all of the bad people away so there's never any need for wars?

And how exactly did war cause concentration camps? Do you even know what concentration camps were?

:lol:

So it's OK to kill people to protect your loved ones. Perhaps if an invading army was trying to kill your loved ones you'd consider it OK to establish an army to ward off this attack?

And if you saw that bad people were doing bad things to other people, you'd consider rescuing them using force, if necessary?

Or are we just supposed to closer our eyes and wish all of the bad people away so there's never any need for wars?

:wall: It seems like you didn't even read my last post, and that you're just one of those people who like to argue no matter the topic.... all I'm saying is that IF, IF, IF war had to do with the welfare of people, WHICH IT DOESN'T, then maybe I would think diffirently about it. BUT it DOESN'T. Please don't be so nieve. War is about one ruler wanting more power and money than another ruler. So they brainwash people into fighting their battles for them. (the my dad can kick your dad's ass syndrome) It's just the way things are. If people get put into consentration camps along the way, and other people happen to save them, good. It makes the brainwashing that much easier.

:wall: It seems like you didn't even read my last post, and that you're just one of those people who like to argue no matter the topic.... all I'm saying is that IF, IF, IF war had to do with the welfare of people, WHICH IT DOESN'T, then maybe I would think diffirently about it. BUT it DOESN'T. Please don't be so nieve. War is about one ruler wanting more power and money than another ruler. So they brainwash people into fighting their battles for them. (the my dad can kick your dad's ass syndrome) It's just the way things are. If people get put into consentration camps along the way, and other people happen to save them, good. It makes the brainwashing that much easier.

Ok, so how do you convince bad people to not start wars?

And the explanation for how war caused concentration camps would be good.

Ok, so how do you convince bad people to not start wars?

You don't. You can not participate or encourage or support them.

And the explanation for how war caused concentration camps would be good.

Oh geez, okay maybe I should have said that concentration camps were also man-made. War encouraged them. Some of my ancestors were in concetration camps for being Jewish. I myself am only 1/8.

You don't. You can not participate or encourage or support them.

I don't get it. Hitler raised an army and started a war. Were we supposed to sit back and let him slaughter people?

Nobody likes war but at certain times they are necessary in order to protect one's way of life or to save others from oppression.

Surely, you are against oppression?