for those of you who didn't see this. Bright Eyes performed this song on the Tonight Show.

When the president talks to God
Are the conversations brief or long?
Does he ask to rape our women's rights
And send poor farm kids off to die?
Does God suggest an oil hike
When the president talks to God?

When the president talks to God
Are the consonants all hard or soft?
Is he resolute all down the line?
Is every issue black or white?
Does what God say ever change his mind
When the president talks to God?

When the president talks to God
Does he fake that drawl or merely nod?
Agree which convicts should be killed?
Where prisons should be built and filled?
Which voter fraud must be concealed
When the president talks to God?

When the president talks to God
I wonder which one plays the better cop
We should find some jobs. the ghetto's broke
No, they're lazy, George, I say we don't
Just give 'em more liquor stores and dirty coke
That's what God recommends

When the president talks to God
Do they drink near beer and go play golf
While they pick which countries to invade
Which Muslim souls still can be saved?
I guess god just calls a spade a spade
When the president talks to God

When the president talks to God
Does he ever think that maybe he's not?
That that voice is just inside his head
When he kneels next to the presidential bed
Does he ever smell his own bullsh*t
When the president talks to God?

I doubt it

I doubt it

click here to watch the video (http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2670176?htv=12)

ETA: This is a free itunes download as well.

I missed it. What was the audience reaction like?

Positive, cheering and clapping (although it seemed like half the crowd cheered and half were quiet). No booing. At the end it seemed like the entire crowd applauded.

Positive, cheering and clapping (although it seemed like half the crowd cheered and half were quiet). No booing. At the end it seemed like the entire crowd applauded.

That's really interesting. They all must have been from blue states. :p

Maybe.

Regardless of ones political views the song is really clever. I think Bright Eyes is a really good lyricist.

when the president talks to god, i think he's delusional.

did god tell him we should go to iraq? if so, god sure muffed that call.

Gee, I didn't know the president opened liquor stores in the ghetto. When did Congress pass this legislation? I msut have missed it.

Oh, wait. It is just more bull**** from the left. My bad. :lol:

He just said God recommended that so I think the song is still potentially factual (at least to the extend that it is factual that Dubya talks to God).

What a ripe piece of sewage.

What a ripe piece of sewage.

i'd agree. the way bush has mishandled this countries affairs makes him one of the worst presidents in the history of this country. i'd call him a buffoon rather than a piece of sewage though :)

when the president talks to god, i think he's delusional.

did god tell him we should go to iraq? if so, god sure muffed that call.
He's not delusional and he sure as heck does not talk to God; no, he's a manipulator and it worked like a charm too. I cannot believe he could get away with this whole 'God said I should do it', crap. Unbelievable.

He's not delusional and he sure as heck does not talk to God; no, he's a manipulator and it worked like a charm too. I cannot believe he could get away with this whole 'God said I should do it', crap. Unbelievable.

I agree.

http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2086.cfm

The Bush dictatorship also discovered a residual benefit of the “great lie theory”: People are often so myopic or so embarrassed by their gullibility that, even after the “great lies” are exposed, they would rather reward the liar than acknowledge the lie.

one thing for sure... this country is in one hell of a mess. and who to blame? the american voter!

bush won based on the "values" vote. so americans apparently buy that bush talks to god.

if i did the same quality of job managing a health care company as bush has done as a president, i'd be fired almost immediately, and rightfully so.

^^^Uh-huh! Frightening commentary of the masses.

(response to Rem's article and quote)

He's not delusional and he sure as heck does not talk to God

How do you know that?

:shifty:

How do you know that?

:shifty:
Well, he may be delusional. :think:

:D

bush won based on the "values" vote. so americans apparently buy that bush talks to god.

See, right there..you bought into the Republicans' crap. Bush didn't win on the "values" vote. He won on the "make people scared as hell" vote. "Who's going to protect your from terrorism?" "Who's going to keep jobs in America?" "Who's going to put criminals in jail/execute them" "I (Bush) kept WMD's away from the US". yada yada yada :gun:

It's continually stated that "values" issues, in particular the plethora of anti-gay legislation on ballot last year, is what swept Bush into office. Yeah, I agree that the religious right worked to mobilize voters. But everyone seems to forget about the left leaning groups who got folks out to vote against the measures (and mostly against Bush).

first, i voted for kerry. i didn't buy into anything the republicans offered.

and i spoke with a surprising number of people who supported bush based on his "values".. the idea that he "stood for something" and kerry didn't. i honestly believe that's what tipped the election to him.

we know who got the christian vote.

I thought that the exit polls reflected that people voted for bush based on values.

Or was that a bunch of media-driven bull?

Well, you didn't have to vote for Bush, to believe (what I think is) a myth re: his "values" getting him into office. That you stated it as fact, made me think that you believed it to be true (and indeed you just reiterated that you do believe this idea).

Again, I think (know) that many people *did* vote for Bush based on his values. I just don't think people often consider that people voted for Kerry because of *his* values. That is, I think the "value vote" as it were, sort of cancelled each other out. But, on the "make em scared issues" (terrorism, national defense, etc.) Bush cleaned up.

As far as the Christian vote goes..it could be that Bush get most of this vote, but I think that depends partially on how you define "Christian". Not to mention, there could be a whole discussion about the merits of polling techniques, which is generally how it's decided that Bush got the "Christian" vote. (but that is another thread, lol)

first, i voted for kerry. i didn't buy into anything the republicans offered.

and i spoke with a surprising number of people who supported bush based on his "values".. the idea that he "stood for something" and kerry didn't. i honestly believe that's what tipped the election to him.

we know who got the christian vote.
I agree. I can't tell you how many times I heard "thank goodness he's a good Christian" in reference to us going to war with him leading us.

I think that another reason Bush won the last election is that although Kerry came off more intelligent and a better speaker, Bush comes off very likeable. He's got that good ole boy charm. Darnit if even I wasn't a bit charmed by him. Kerry was boring, although I'll take boring and brillant over Bush's mediocre charm any day.

allright punks lets get back to talking about the song :p

Just kidding take this thread wherever it goes, I just wanted people to see the video if they were interested. I was really disturbed when Bill Maher got fired a few years ago for giving an opinion on television and I am very encouraged that we seem to be getting back to the place where people can speak freely on TV without consequences.

Do you think though, remilard, that there's a difference here because Bill M was the host of the show, whereas this was a political statement by guests? Not that I necessarily think it *should* matter (in every case anyway), but I think it *does* matter.

Well, you didn't have to vote for Bush, to believe (what I think is) a myth re: his "values" getting him into office. That you stated it as fact, made me think that you believed it to be true (and indeed you just reiterated that you do believe this idea).

Again, I think (know) that many people *did* vote for Bush based on his values. I just don't think people often consider that people voted for Kerry because of *his* values. That is, I think the "value vote" as it were, sort of cancelled each other out. But, on the "make em scared issues" (terrorism, national defense, etc.) Bush cleaned up.

As far as the Christian vote goes..it could be that Bush get most of this vote, but I think that depends partially on how you define "Christian". Not to mention, there could be a whole discussion about the merits of polling techniques, which is generally how it's decided that Bush got the "Christian" vote. (but that is another thread, lol)

the whole thing is depressing to me when i consider what's happening to this country.

among the people that i spoke to (and this is hardly representative) was a mother at a soccer game who was a born again christian. she told me bush was a hero for going to iraq and freeing the orphans, of all things. i felt like asking if he freed them from having arms and legs, but i could see there was no use having a discussion with her.

i'd really like to see an accurate survey of american religious attitudes, to get a sense of how this might have played out. virtually everyone i know who considers themselves a born again christian voted for bush. i know quite a few of them.

Do you think though, remilard, that there's a difference here because Bill M was the host of the show, whereas this was a political statement by guests? Not that I necessarily think it *should* matter (in every case anyway), but I think it *does* matter.

2002, there is NO WAY that song gets performed on NBC.