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pseudo_vegan
06-03-05, 10:57 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4606011.stm

Curvy women are more likely to live longer than their slimmer counterparts, researchers have found.
Institute of Preventative Medicine in Copenhagen researchers found those with wider hips also appeared to be protected against heart conditions.

Women with a hip measurement smaller than 40 inches, or a size 14 would not have this protection, they said.

The researchers say hip fat contains a beneficial natural anti-inflammatory.

Narrow hips 'detrimental'

They said this anti-inflammatory, called adiponectin, prevents arteries swelling up and becoming blocked.

Fat on hips is different than fat on the abdomen

Dr Berit Heitmann, Institute of Preventative Medicine

The hourglass figure has been made famous by women ranging from Marilyn Monroe and Sophia Loren to Kelly Brook and Catherine Zeta Jones today.

The Danish researchers examined almost 3,000 men and women aged between 35 and 65 from 1987 to 1988

They measured height, weight and body mass index - calculated by dividing weight in kilograms by the square of your height in metres.

They then looked at Danish health registers up until the end of 1998 to look at how many of the men and women had cardiovascular problems, and up to 2001 to see how many had died.

Compared to the group of women with the smallest hip circumferences, women with the biggest were found to have an 87% reduction in deaths.

They also had an 86% reduced risk of having coronary heart disease and a 46% reduction in the risk of developing cardiovascular disease, according to the researchers.

Previous studies have found both men and women with small hips are at an increased risk of developing diabetes, high blood pressure and gall bladder disease.

However the study, which has been published in Obesity Research, found a wider hip circumference was not linked with better heart health in men.

'Apple-shape' risk

Professor Berit Heitmann, who led the study, said: "It seems that the protection is not a matter of wide hips, it's the detrimental effect of narrow hips with a lack of muscle fat, or bone or a combination of both.

She added: "Fat on hips is different than fat on the abdomen. If you do not have enough of this fat you may risk heart attacks."

Carrying excess fat around the stomach, being 'apple shaped', is already known to be potentially damaging to health.

Fat cells in this part of the body pump out chemicals that can damage the insulin system, raising the risk of diabetes and heart disease.

Belinda Linden, of the British Heart Foundation said: "It has been widely reported that if you are apple-shaped, your risk of developing cardiovascular disease is likely to be greater than if you are pear-shaped.

"This study provides additional evidence of the association between hip circumference and cardiovascular protection among women."

But she added: "It is important to consider both your body weight and shape in tandem. Controlling both by eating less and being more active is the best way to reduce your risk of heart and circulatory disease."

This doesn't belong in the "in the news" section...so I put it here. A mod can move it, as necessary.

I figured with all the talk 'round these here parts about being skinny, etc...(well, from what I've seen in some places :think: ), this may be a good thing for women with wider hips...interesting study I thought...

missleigh
06-03-05, 12:14 PM
Women with a hip measurement smaller than 40 inches, or a size 14 would not have this protection, they said

Whew! :up: I'm safe!

vggiegirl
06-03-05, 12:36 PM
Me too. I guess I'm lucky I'm not a size 6 anymore :tired:
But still...I liked the article :)

April
06-03-05, 12:38 PM
I recently visited a website that calculated my hip-to-wasit ratio. Out of the three shapes they list- apple, squash, and pear, I'm a squash. That means I don't have the benefits of the wider hips, but my risks aren't as elevated as the apple shaped people. It's odd- I would say I have an hourglass figure, but it's not very dramatic. I carry my greatest fat deposits on my lower abdomen and outer thighs. My butt is pretty flat :( This is a pic of me from 2 years ago when I was a little thinner than I am now, but it shows how I'm shaped. Reading this articles and other things like it make me a bit more panicked about getting rid of the belly fat.

Pic from July '03 (http://www.veggieboards.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=4076&catid=member&imageuser=3336)

4 Life
06-03-05, 12:42 PM
:up: Thanks!

Christy
06-03-05, 12:42 PM
I thought I was an apple, but now I'm not so sure. If I gain, it's more likely to show up in my abdomen. But now, I'm trying to tone up the lower abs and hips. So, who knows? I'm below the measurement in the article, though.

frenchie
06-03-05, 12:45 PM
I'm a pear....which means I'm safe!

MollyGoat
06-03-05, 12:54 PM
I've never gotten this pear vs. apple shape thing. I certainly am curvy--no narrow hips here--but I also carry weight on my stomach so I feel like an apple-pear hybrid, or somthing. :rolleyes:

pseudo_vegan
06-03-05, 02:42 PM
Pic from July '03 (http://www.veggieboards.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=4076&catid=member&imageuser=3336)

:trick:

I think it's a matter of EXCESS (just like...well, everything). I'm not "fat", but the "fat" I do have...I carry around my waist (like most females do :p)...so I don't know.

I don't really know what kind of fruit I am...probably just more of a tart ;)

:nigel: Cheers!

catgirl67
06-03-05, 02:50 PM
I've never gotten this pear vs. apple shape thing. I certainly am curvy--no narrow hips here--but I also carry weight on my stomach so I feel like an apple-pear hybrid, or somthing. :rolleyes:

Same here.

AngelOfDance
06-03-05, 02:52 PM
the question is...

what can one do to move the fat from the belly to the hips?

pseudo_vegan
06-03-05, 02:57 PM
the question is...

what can one do to move the fat from the belly to the hips?

Jump up and down and swing side to side...

:rockon:

:nigel: Cheers!

Jinga
06-03-05, 03:53 PM
Its great to see some curvy woman support in the news. :D However, it seems like all these health related claims overgeneralize. Too many dang one-size-fits-all numbers! We are all so different. I know my healthiest size would be unhealthy for someone else, and vice-versa. It would be oh so nice if these studies showed a greater emphasis on healthy lifestyles and less on trying to convince us we should be a certain size.

The Rev
06-03-05, 04:05 PM
Rev LOVES those voluptuous vixens!!

:naughty:

The Rev

SeaSiren
06-03-05, 05:21 PM
I'm a size 4-6 depending on clothing line, but hold weight easily in my abs....guess I'm scr**ed.

Ella
06-03-05, 05:50 PM
I've never gotten this pear vs. apple shape thing. I certainly am curvy--no narrow hips here--but I also carry weight on my stomach so I feel like an apple-pear hybrid, or somthing. :rolleyes:

Me too!

My belly has always been big :stinkeye: Even losing 15 pounds, it hasn't budged. Same with my outer thighs.

4 Life
06-03-05, 05:53 PM
I'm a voluptuous size 18 baby! Definitely hour glass figure. 38D 36 44. :trick:

vegan-4-good
06-03-05, 06:43 PM
why do u post stuff like this??

did you all forget that teh chinese (skinny twig ppl) live the longest and are "underweight" compared to teh standards u follow. thats right- they have no hips, no things, no flab, no but, small boobs... but they live the longest.

how can you change years' worths of beliefs based on one measly article that someone for some sneaky reason decided to post? :down:

brownieB26
06-03-05, 06:57 PM
why do u post stuff like this??

did you all forget that teh chinese (skinny twig ppl) live the longest and are "underweight" compared to teh standards u follow. thats right- they have no hips, no things, no flab, no but, small boobs... but they live the longest.

how can you change years' worths of beliefs based on one measly article that someone for some sneaky reason decided to post? :down:
Why do you not understand that this is a SCIENTIFIC STUDY?

I.E. more valid than the thoughts of an ignorant 16 year old.

vggiegirl
06-03-05, 07:01 PM
why do u post stuff like this??

did you all forget that teh chinese (skinny twig ppl) live the longest and are "underweight" compared to teh standards u follow. thats right- they have no hips, no things, no flab, no but, small boobs... but they live the longest.

how can you change years' worths of beliefs based on one measly article that someone for some sneaky reason decided to post? :down:

I am starting to think you are here to stir up ****. Just because you are pro anorexia, don't knock this. And this is in a support forum little girl so if you want to debate, go to the heap.

And I find it extremely insulting that you call Chinese "skinny twig ppl"
and it's people. Not ppl.
Thanks. Second window please.

auggie
06-03-05, 07:01 PM
why do u post stuff like this??

did you all forget that teh chinese (skinny twig ppl) live the longest and are "underweight" compared to teh standards u follow. thats right- they have no hips, no things, no flab, no but, small boobs... but they live the longest.

how can you change years' worths of beliefs based on one measly article that someone for some sneaky reason decided to post? :down:

Oh,that's great.Yes,ALL chinese (not asian,mind you) are skinny and twig like.

Brandon
06-03-05, 07:22 PM
why do u post stuff like this??

did you all forget that teh chinese (skinny twig ppl) live the longest and are "underweight" compared to teh standards u follow. thats right- they have no hips, no things, no flab, no but, small boobs... but they live the longest.

how can you change years' worths of beliefs based on one measly article that someone for some sneaky reason decided to post? :down:

:down: No thumbs up for racist remarks. :no:

remilard
06-03-05, 07:33 PM
why do u post stuff like this??

did you all forget that teh chinese (skinny twig ppl) live the longest and are "underweight" compared to teh standards u follow. thats right- they have no hips, no things, no flab, no but, small boobs... but they live the longest.

how can you change years' worths of beliefs based on one measly article that someone for some sneaky reason decided to post? :down:

I'm trying to understand.

Stupid or drugs?

brownieB26
06-03-05, 07:37 PM
I'm trying to understand.

Stupid or drugs?
ROTFL

cakeies
06-03-05, 07:44 PM
I've actually heard a few studies saying that the longest life span in western cultures correlates to a more curvey figure. I have also read a bunch of studies that say its diet exercise and heridity that make best predictors of heart health. Oviously the "chinese (skinny twig ppl)" comment is a HUGE gerneralization.
I like to think it has to do with taking care of yourself. As i was born with freakishly narrow hips, according to the forementioned study, i'm screwed, despite my healthy efforts.
With all kinds of different health information coming at you everyday, I find it best to take each "latest study" with a grain of salt.