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mushroom
01-27-03, 12:24 AM
I hate watching football, basketball, baseball and soccer.
And how can you care about who wins? It's not like you even know anyone playing.
And doesn't the amount of money they make disgust you?

I like watching skating, because that is pretty to watch...esp the couples. Sometimes, gymnastics too...and diving competition...

But, the Super Bowl? WHYYYYYYYYY?????????????????

Robert
01-27-03, 12:26 AM
For the commercials of course :)

VeggieMonster
01-27-03, 12:28 AM
Dunno, I've never understood it either. People have been paying upwards of $2,000's for super bowl seats, most of which were soso seats... for an event that's air'd on TV for FREE!?! :confused:

VeggieMonster
01-27-03, 12:30 AM
R: For the commercials of course
hehe, I was flipping through and happened to land on one of the comercials... anyone else see that Fed Ex castaway comercial?? lol

MsRuthieB
01-27-03, 01:17 AM
I don't hate sports. I like watching men run around in tight spandex pants :drool:

yarnblossom
01-27-03, 06:01 PM
I hate sports too, I live in San Diego county and the hoopla has been horrid. I am so glad it is over.

luckiecharms
01-27-03, 06:53 PM
The superbowl was boring! I couldnt stand to watch 2 minuets of it so I left! I like sports though but I just dont like to watch them.

VeggieMonster
01-27-03, 07:00 PM
Yarn, I'm in San Diego too :). I've been staying inside to avoid all the craziness and whatnot.
Off topic: Have you been to this restaraunt (in Escondido): http://www.thevegetarian.info/, I've been meaning to try it out for a while now.

Max Power
01-27-03, 07:00 PM
[Disclaimer: I am well-aware that everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm sick of being reminded of that (by non-VB people.)]

Sports are great. Top 10 reasons for sports:

1. The Sports Bar factor: Social camaraderie.
2. Enhances the connection between people and the community they live within.
3. Reality TV? It’s one of the few things on the tele that is not almost-always predictable.
4. Gimme the Love: High-fives.
5. The human history factor: Sports is the last active form of inter-tribal battle that mankind has.
6. The rituals: Sports, for those who enjoy them, are positive punctuation points in time (I.e. things to look forward to).
7. The geopolitical factor: Sports makes places like Buffalo, NY cool.
8. The water cooler factor: Instant conversation piece.
9. The existential psychology of sports: A lot of people live without drama and/or hope. Sports gives people drama and/or hope.
10. The undeniable truth: Humans are competitive animals. Sports is simply an outlet for our competitive nature.

Robert
01-27-03, 07:05 PM
Max: well said..... lol on the Buffalo reference.

FemmeDemonica
01-27-03, 07:44 PM
What I love about sports: TEAMWORK.

Sure, it may sound contrived, but I find the idea of individuals coming together, physically pushing themselves and each other to reach a goal really romantic. That's one of the reasons I love watching (or being a part of) an underdog team that, through committment to each other and the passion of the game, defeats the odds. Team effort is powerful stuff.

Plus, come one--sports are about playing! And there never seems to be enough time to play. Physical activity is so much fun. It's totally refreshing and relieving.

Sports should be a tool to teach teamwork and good sportsmanship. It shouldn't always be about winning.

yarnblossom
01-28-03, 12:04 AM
Veggiemonster, I live in Escondido, I did go to the Vegatarian a few years ago. I think they are only open at lunch time but I am not sure. It has been here for a long time.

Oops, I just looked at the link you posted and they are open all day. It is a small place. Thanks for the link by the way.

Max Power
01-28-03, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by FemmeDemonica
Sports should be a tool to teach teamwork and good sportsmanship. It shouldn't always be about winning.
Amen, sista! I conciously left out all benefits of sports-participation in favor of focusing on the couch-commando side of sports. Not just because I could write on the benefits of organized physical activities for hours, but I'd like to think that it's a no-brainer - organized sports are good for the mind as well as the body.

Tame
01-28-03, 01:24 AM
Sports should be about winning. Always. Teamwork leads to winning, but the goal of utterly dominating and vanquishing an opponent so that you may revel in their pain while basking in the glory of adoring fans must never be forgotten. :tame:

Robert
01-28-03, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Tame
Sports should be about winning. Always. Teamwork leads to winning, but the goal of utterly dominating and vanquishing an opponent so that you may revel in their pain while basking in the glory of adoring fans must never be forgotten. :tame:

Hhehe, you mean like next season when the Toronto Raptors go all the way we can revel in the pain of every other NBA team that fell by the wayside? lol

Max Power
01-28-03, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Tame
Sports should be about winning.
And talking smack.

Hey Robert, the Raptors without Vince couldn't win the WNBA. With Vince, they could ONLY win the WNBA. ;)

ObsidianZebra
01-28-03, 01:54 AM
I don't have so much a problem with sports as i do with *professional* sports. The whole concept of professional sports sickens me. The idea that some one could be payed just to play a game is bad enought - but to get paid the ridiculously huge salaries that the average pro sports player gets?! Unreal!
Especially when there's starving children in the world and homeless people freezing in the streets, it angers me to no end to hear about so-n-so getting payed some millions just because he can run fast & throw a ball really far.
I absolutely abhor pro sports. Especially the ones that rely on abusing animals for entertainment.

Robert
01-28-03, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Max Power
And talking smack.

Hey Robert, the Raptors without Vince couldn't win the WNBA. With Vince, they could ONLY win the WNBA. ;)

ROTFL.

Yep, agreed. They kept the wrong superstar... should have kept Tracey.

Max Power
01-28-03, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by Robert
Yep, agreed. They kept the wrong superstar... should have kept Tracey.
T-Mac is money!!! I definitely agree. I still think that Vince is heading to New York in the next 3 years. The NBA would love that - think of all the jersey sales! It'd almost be worth going to the Garden to see him...

I have issues with pro. athletes making the money they make, too, but my beef is not with the athletes nor even the owners. Rather, it's the government. We should be taxing these guys like Canada does. They'd still rake it in, and if they didn't like it, where would they go? Canada??? (Hey maybe Toronto would have a shot, then!)

So my problem is not so much that the athletes get paid too much (most of the highest-paid guys are underpaid, for all the money they bring into the organizations through ticket sales, gear sales, and commercial sponsors) it's that they don't get taxed enough. Capping the professional athlete's salary at $150k won't get one dime out to the needy. Taxing $42mil at 45% will.

MsRuthieB
01-28-03, 02:20 AM
I'm with ya Max. You know, I look at Muhammad Ali and some other pro sports stars that go screwed up beyond repair from pushing their bods to that point and I think to myself, yeah, if I was in their shoes I'd want a hefty sum too so that my kids and their kids are taken care of. Hey, Muhammad's daughter kick ass don't she?

Robert
01-28-03, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by Max Power
T-Mac is money!!! I definitely agree. I still think that Vince is heading to New York in the next 3 years. The NBA would love that - think of all the jersey sales! It'd almost be worth going to the Garden to see him...

With Vince's recurring injuries the past couple of seasons, I'll be surprised if he's still in the league in 3 years. The knees seem to be going there and, let's face it... Vince is pretty soft going down the middle.

Tame
01-29-03, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by ObsidianZebra
I don't have so much a problem with sports as i do with *professional* sports. The whole concept of professional sports sickens me. The idea that some one could be payed just to play a game is bad enought - but to get paid the ridiculously huge salaries that the average pro sports player gets?! Unreal!
Especially when there's starving children in the world and homeless people freezing in the streets, it angers me to no end to hear about so-n-so getting payed some millions just because he can run fast & throw a ball really far.
I absolutely abhor pro sports. Especially the ones that rely on abusing animals for entertainment.

They are not paid just to "play a game". I play games without making a dime. Professional athletes are paid well because others enjoy watching them enough to pay money for tickets, watch them on TV, purchase team apparel, trading cards, and other items. Professional sports are an economic activity. Why should musicians be paid well? They just sing songs. And artists? They just paint pictures. Authors and writers? Hell, most people can write.
It's not the activity - it's the value others place on the activity.

In the end, most who bash pro athletes are just playa haters.

FemmeDemonica
01-29-03, 12:36 PM
While I find myself agreeing with nearly all of your post, Tame, I have to disagree with this one small piece:
Authors and writers? Hell, most people can write.
So untrue. Really. :)

Max Power
01-29-03, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by FemmeDemonica
So untrue. Really. :)
Agreed. Writing is easy. You just stare at a blank slice of paper until blood drips from your forehead.

Skylark
01-29-03, 01:42 PM
Or the computer screen, whichever happens to be the case. They really should make red keyboards, that way it'll stay the same color the whole time I use it...