a vegan deodrant to strike off my list.

[a_turncoat]

i bought alba aloe vera deodrant a good two weeks ago and i've been using it until my underarms started hurting. it worked fine and it smelled nice, but it left what looked like a rash. the deodrant is supposed to be hypo-allergenic, but apparently is not enough.

I was wondering if this is a sign of something bad; maybe an allergy i never knew about?

the ingredients: Vegetable glycerin with certified organic aloe vera barbadensis, coriander (coriandrum sativum), alpine lichen (usnea barbata) and green tea (camellia sinensis), sodium stearate, steareth-100, sodium bicarbonate, glyceryl stearate, oleic acid, sodium chloride, ethylhexylglycerin, cetyl alcohol, and grapefruit extract (citrus grandis).

[soilman]

I get a rash from plain ordinary sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) under my arms.

I believe cetyl alcohol may possibly be derived from whale oil, by the way.

[bluegrrrl79]

I've read from others that most vegan/natural deoderants aren't very good. You could try Tom's of Maine? Personally I use Secret because it doesn't give me a rash like some others have and it works well, but it's probably not vegan.

[Jes]

I use vegan during the winter, but I wouldn't risk it in the summer!

[VeggieBiker]

It's possible you're allergic to aloe...I know a couple of people who've broken out in a rash when they used 100% aloe.

[Jes]

PS, I use Alba just fine. But if I got a rash, I'd definitely discontinue.

[bstutzma]

I tried so hard to use vegan deodorant. I tried the liquid rock (that does actually kill all bacteria smell quite well, actually, probably better than regular deodorant). but i need an antiperspirant, i sweat way too easily. my hubbie sweats very little and is happily using tom's of maine unscented (in fact, he was getting a rash from his old deodorant and it cleared it up!) I have to use almay. I am allergic to anything that touches my skin. I use their gel because I called and they told me it was vegan. It doesn't really work as the strongest anti-perspirant, but, i cant really use anything else. i tried using secret baby powder scent when i was out of the country and couldnt find anything else, and i got a rash that took about 3 weeks to go away. itchy itchy!!! :-P

[Cinnamon toast]

I've used Secret for years and I'm trying to find something that is vegan and effective too.

I've tried the Aloe Vera deo stick by JASON and it wasn't particularly effective, well not for really active days anyway.

I just started using Mitchum unscented deodorant/antiperspirant (the men's stick I think) by Revlon. Apparantly it is vegan and so far I have no complaints.

:up:

[spehlbaund]

I'm using Suave right now (bought before going veg) so I'm not sure what will work. I looked for Mitchum but wow, it's like 3.69 on sale for such a tiny little roll-on bottle :surprised but I guess if it lasts for at least a few months it really isn't much to pay. maybe it costs less somewhere else too.

[Jes]

Mitchum is vegan? Excellent!

[Atlanta Newbie]

Tom's of Maine natural deodorant stick.

Right on the package: "No artificial or animal ingredients. No animal testing."

And it works for me here in ATL in all seasons. :)

[April]

I think the magic combo for me is Mitchum's unscented gel (for men), plus Tom's of Maine Honeysuckle Rose scented deodorant. I have to make sure the mitchum is dry before Iapply the Tom's of Maine, but when I can do this, I'm set for the day.

[mouse]

The deo stones work wonderfully, in my opinion - better than any "manufactured" deo that I've ever tried.

[wild blackberry]

i use tom's of maine deodorant. i usually reapply once a day. it has propylene glycol, which some people object to, but when i tried a brand with a glycerin base it was sticky and uncomfortable. they also sell an antiperspirant (or at least they used to) but i usually get a rash or have pain when i use antiperspirants, so i avoid them.

i know people who swear by the stones, but for me they did not work at all.

[wow i'm a dog]

I believe cetyl alcohol may possibly be derived from whale oil, by the way.

it is. from peta's "animal ingredients and their alternatives (http://www.caringconsumer.com/ingredientsfactsheet.html)" list:

"cetyl alcohol. wax found in spermaceti from sperm whales or dolphins. alternatives: vegetable cetyl alcohol (e.g., coconut), synthetic spermaceti."

[soilman]

I believe Peta is mistaken to describe cetyl alcohol as being an animal ingredient. My research has shown that some cetyl alcohol is made from whale oil, but much, probably most, commercial cetyl alcohol is made from petroleum, palm oil, coconut oil, or other materials. Putting it in an "animal ingredient" list, as Peta does, is wrong, since it may or may not be derived from animals. Putting it in an animal list says it always is derived from animals. Peta appears to be incompetant at determining the eartly origin of commercial materials. They simply are not a good reference, for the animal-vegetable-mineral quality of a material. They are a confrontational publicity organization, and not a credible source of scientific or engineering facts about materials.

If, when they listed materials, they gave references to credible sources, as to how they came to a conclusion (as I do on my web site) then I might believe them, even if they do not themselves have credentials in chemistry or materials engineering. But they don't. They just list the materials, without references to how they came to the conclusion they did.

[soilman]

By the way they are definity mistaken about lactic acid. While lactic acid was discovered as what makes sour milk sour, and named lactic acid, virtually no lactic acid is made from milk. The only way to get milk-derived lactic acid is to buy buttermilk or something. Virtually all commerical lactic acid is made by carbohydrate fermentation. Carbohydrates such as corn or potato starch.

Also, all the "lactates" like ferrous lactate, and calcium lactate, are made by combining sources of iron, calcium, or whatever, with commerical lactic acid, so they are not animal either.

[soilman]

Lactose, on the other hand, IS made from milk.

[Kurmudgeon]

I believe Peta is mistaken to describe cetyl alcohol as being an animal ingredient. My research has shown that some cetyl alcohol is made from whale oil, but much, probably most, commercial cetyl alcohol is made from petroleum, palm oil, coconut oil, or other materials. Putting it in an "animal ingredient" list, as Peta does, is wrong, since it may or may not be derived from animals. Putting it in an animal list says it always is derived from animals.

You admitted it can be/is an animal ingredient, so no, they aren't mistaken. They also mention alternatives. And having it in such a list is probably "better safe than sorry".
I am well aware that I am wasting my time, text and bandwidth just by replying to you, but how about you go back and read properly.

[soilman]

They are wrong about urea too. No commerical urea comes from urine. It ALL comes from synthetic ammonia. (http://materials.addr.com/nitrogen.shtml) There is inof about urea here (http://materials.addr.com/urethane.shtml)

[bethanie]

I use that crystal 'rock' stuff throughout most of the month...and then a few days when I'm particularly 'odorous' I use a non-veggie brand.

B

[smags]

When I used the Alba aloe stuff, I sometimes got a pink "rash" as well. However, I don't think it was a reaction so much as my skin getting very mildly irritated from sticking to itself on account of the deodorant...

[dirkduck]

I'd try out Tom's. I got a rash from certain scents, but the plain unscented (I think it's called "long-lasting" now) one works fine.

[granolacruncher]

I'm currently using Dove. I know not vegan. :eek: I have eczema and super sensitive skin. I haven't been able to find anything else that works and doesn't give me a super bad rash. However I did not know that Mitchum was vegan. Thanks for the tip. Next time I head out to the store I'll have to pick some up.

[Exit51]

I don't have sensitive skin, and I am not a profuse sweater, but i tried Kiss my Face Active Enzyme deoderant and also Tom's of Maine natural deoderant stick and both left me STINKY!! And both were almost 5 bucks, a major, major rip off IME. But I do love Kiss my Face soap, though