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Tame
01-23-03, 12:04 AM
Let's get France first...


France, a once proud nation that helped America win her freedom from the British, has been a thorn in our side ever since. We rescue them from annihilation in two World Wars, we suffer through the export of actors like Gerard Depardieu, and we try to introduce them to the wonders of deodorant. What do we get in return? Demonizing the United States, insulting our leaders, not allowing our jets to fly in their air space in order to bomb Muammar Ghadafi, and now a threat to try and thwart our effort to rid the world of one of the most evil dictators it has ever seen.

In a move typical of the cowardly French, they announced this week that they would probably use their veto power to stop the U.N. Security Council from passing a war resolution against Iraq. How many times does the United States have to save Frenchy’s bacon to get even an ounce of respect? And why is a wimp like France even on the ''Security Council'' anyway? But I guess it goes hand-in-hand with the U.N.’s brilliant plan of letting Libya head the Commission on Human Rights. That’s like putting Bill Clinton on the ''Respect for Women Council.''

Well, I say enough is enough. It’s time to swat that pesky mosquito and stop the French from bothering us any longer. We should attack France immediately. Let’s not give them the opportunity to vote down a United Nations resolution for military action against Iraq. Why deal with their disrespect for even one more day?

And don’t worry. Attacking France now won’t delay our ability to get Saddam. It shouldn’t take more than 48-hours to complete the task of defeating the French. In fact, we probably don’t even need to use our military or waste our expensive modern weaponry. I’m thinking we could give some bottles and lead pipes to Oakland Raiders fans and New York City construction workers to get the job done just as easily. We should probably outfit our boys with running shoes as well, since history has taught us that the French do indeed know how to run away quickly when a war breaks out.

Once we’re finished, we’ll even have the added benefit of turning the former country of France into an exile territory for all of our homegrown traitors. We can send Hollywood’s lefties, the Clintons, Al Gore, Jesse Jackson, everyone in the major media, and most of Palm Beach, Florida. We’ll just change the name from France to F.R.A.N.C.E. – For Rich Arrogant Neo-Communist Elitists.

The best part about this plan is that we’re unlikely to meet any resistance from our other European “allies.” Nobody likes the French. Even the French don’t like the French. Europe’s only concern will be making sure that the retreating French hordes don’t try to escape into their own countries after we attack.

That said, we will meet some resistance to this plan at home. I’m sure the pinko-socialist-anarchist-libbie-nutjobs in Amerikka are already putting on their Birkenstocks and planning to protest as they read this article. I can imagine the signs they’re making. “No Blood for Wine!” “We Kiss Frogs, Not Kill Them!” “We Love the French, Even If They Do Think Jerry Lewis is Funny!”

Maybe we can pool together our frequent flier miles and send all of these libbie protesters to France to act as “human shields,” just as many are planning to do in Iraq. Most of them don’t appear to shower, so they’ll fit right in over there anyway.

Getting the annoying French out of the way will allow us to go after Saddam with the full support of all European nations. They’ll be jumping on the ''Bomb Saddam'' bandwagon as thanks for our ridding the world of their obnoxious French neighbors.

No Saddam. No French. The world has never known such happiness. And if they don’t watch their step, the liberal Canadians are next, eh?


***Apologies to the original author - I could not find who wrote this originally. :tame:

Tame
01-23-03, 12:12 AM
In a realted matter, Wal Mart has sold all of its locations in Iraq to another retailer. Ironically, they are now all "Targets". :tame:

spud
01-23-03, 08:44 PM
The best part about this plan is that we’re unlikely to meet any resistance from our other European “allies.” Nobody likes the French. Even the French don’t like the French. Europe’s only concern will be making sure that the retreating French hordes don’t try to escape into their own countries after we attack.

True (ish)

RedStarJedi
01-24-03, 05:26 PM
Definitly not what I though this thread was goning to be about when I saw it. Then again i should have known better coming from Tame

luckiecharms
01-26-03, 03:24 PM
lol silly moo

1vegan
01-29-03, 07:02 AM
No, you want to destroy it.

If America invades Iraq it will be like george sitting in a bees-hive.

America will spend billons on the army and billions to be in war, and billions to re-build Iraq afterwards.
(just like the marshall-plan)

This is going to cost the american tax-payer.

About the stupid remark on rescueing europe in ww2:

The 2nd world war started in 1939.
America said/thought : sort it out your selves.
America didn't give a damn about civilians being killed by the in that time "Weapons of Mass destruction" or the way jews where treated.

Only after (almost) three years, after Pearl Harbor, America became interested in ww2.

At the end of ww2 the marshall plan was launched, with the intend to keep america's industries running by "helping" europ.

<sic>I don't blame you for not wanting to invade Iraq:
With a president that can't handle a pretzel........</sic>

xxxrudee
04-06-04, 01:03 PM
What's up with the veggieBoard being a nest for reactionary and racist scum?

Oh well.

1vegan
04-06-04, 01:07 PM
What's up with the veggieBoard being a nest for reactionary and racist scum?

Oh well.

Um....that's not the way to talk about tame :think:

Tame
04-06-04, 01:28 PM
What's up with the veggieBoard being a nest for reactionary and racist scum?


Problem?
Watch who you start calling a "racist", sweetheart. Thanks!

Tame
04-06-04, 01:28 PM
Um....that's not the way to talk about tame :think:

Correct. You are slowly learning. ;)

Epinephrine
04-06-04, 02:24 PM
oh, is this to celebrate the new france local forum? very nice. people are going to feel so welcome now.

Max Power
04-06-04, 02:25 PM
Ugh. The only thing lower than low-rhetoric French-bashing is French-basher bashing - the official underside of the bottom-of-the-barrell. If any of you were really above the anti-France P.O.V. you'd just let the conservos have their boarish talk-radio babble-toric and leave 'em to it. For shame, all of you.

Tame
04-06-04, 02:28 PM
oh, is this to celebrate the new france local forum? very nice. people are going to feel so welcome now.

Hush. It was posted over a year ago. Not that the timing should matter.

Tame
04-06-04, 02:28 PM
Ugh. The only thing lower than low-rhetoric French-bashing is French-basher bashing - the official underside of the bottom-of-the-barrell. If any of you were really above the anti-France P.O.V. you'd just let the conservos have their boarish talk-radio babble-toric and leave 'em to it. For shame, all of you.


Max - C'mon! Bashing France is fun, and good for your skin. It keeps mine silky and smooth. :lol:

xxxrudee
04-06-04, 02:33 PM
Rubbish extreme rightwing threads... that's why I said "reactionary and racist" because, it is.

That "moderator" title of yours make the whole veggieboards endorsing non-progressive and nasty politics.

I don't give a **** anyway, I just know now that there's nothing here that's worth of my time or energy.

goodbye

Tame
04-06-04, 02:37 PM
Rubbish extreme rightwing threads... that's why I said "reactionary and racist" because, it is.

That makes a lot of sense. Someone who disagrees with your viewpoint is by definition "reactionary and racist." :rolleyes:


That "moderator" title of yours make the whole veggieboards endorsing non-progressive and nasty politics.

As far as I know, VB doesn't endorse any political or social views officially. It is a meeting ground for veg*ns and those interested in veg*nism. Perhaps you missed this little tidbit?
And yes, we do have a somewhat diverse membership, and no, we don't require anyone to march lockstep with, ahem, "progressives" to participate.


I don't give a **** anyway, I just know now that there's nothing here that's worth of my time or energy.

We really appreciate the posts letting us know you don't care. Feel free to let us know how that works out for you. Keep us posted! :up:

Max Power
04-06-04, 03:12 PM
Max - C'mon! Bashing France is fun, and good for your skin. It keeps mine silky and smooth. :lol:
Is that what it is?? I thought that was the Boston Rob-brand Organic Spunk, err... Skincare Line. :sheep:

epski
04-06-04, 04:04 PM
Rubbish extreme rightwing threads... that's why I said "reactionary and racist" because, it is.

That "moderator" title of yours make the whole veggieboards endorsing non-progressive and nasty politics.

I don't give a **** anyway, I just know now that there's nothing here that's worth of my time or energy.

goodbye

Er, that's bizarre. Most of us here disagree with Tame on stuff like this, LOL. You know it's true, Tame.

Anyway, throwing a hissy fit and leaving seems to fit my definition of "reactionary." Anyone else catch that? :think:

Loki
04-06-04, 04:31 PM
OK, now what's with all the france hating? i find it silly how so many people ar eup in arms at france for refusing to participate in some silly little iraq thingy.

What is the big deal here? I am missing out. Why should i care about France not wanting to go to war? Why do other people actually care that France didn't participate?

Anyway, why would you want to invade France? there isn't even any oil in France.

Tame
04-06-04, 04:35 PM
OK, now what's with all the france hating? i find it silly how so many people ar eup in arms at france for refusing to participate in some silly little iraq thingy.

What is the big deal here? I am missing out. Why should i care about France not wanting to go to war? Why do other people actually care that France didn't participate?

I can choose to hate France for whatever reasons I choose.


Anyway, why would you want to invade France? there isn't even any oil in France.
To rid the world of the cheese-eatin' surrender monkeys. :up:

revelsunrise
04-06-04, 04:40 PM
What's been up with all the Tame-bashing lately? He may be opinionated, and you may not agree with his opinions, but doesn't everybody have a right to have one? If you don't like what he has to say, you can always choose to ignore it.

Dr. Schmeebis
04-06-04, 04:42 PM
It's not so much Tame's right-wing stance that turns people off as his over-simplification of political issues, and retreating to Limbaugh essentialist rhetoric when talking about complex issues. For instance, let us hate France for disagreeing with the U.S.'s foreign policy, let's call Richard Clarke names rather than discuss his actual work, let's randomly isolate whole populations that might visit Veggie Boards because Fark.com humor is viewed as universally acceptable by Fark readers, etc.

Maybe the board just needs a Tame-filter? I'd be a fan.. I just sort of get tired of knee-jerk reactionary crap. It's sort of insulting, when you study the issues, and have to go toe-to-toe with someone who refuses to entertain discussion beyond AM radio grandstanding.

To Tame's credit, I'm sure he can engage in the sort of dialogue I propose. It's just that when he doesn't, or when others don't, or when I don't, that I think the purpose of the community has broken down ever so slightly.

Tame
04-06-04, 04:46 PM
It's not so much Tame's right-wing stance that turns people off as his over-simplification of political issues, and retreating to Limbaugh essentialist rhetoric when talking about complex issues. For instance, let us hate France for disagreeing with the U.S.'s foreign policy, let's call Richard Clarke names rather than discuss his actual work, let's randomly isolate whole populations that might visit Veggie Boards because Fark.com humor is viewed as universally acceptable by Fark readers, etc.

And I called Clarke names where? And I quote Limbaugh where? You don't like my humor? I care. Really, I do. :rolleyes:
This thread was started in response to the US-bashing running rampant on VB a year ago. I didn't dredge it up - a newbie with an attitude did. Don't like it? Don't open it.
Check yourself kid.


Maybe the board just needs a Tame-filter? I'd be a fan.. I just sort of get tired of knee-jerk reactionary crap. It's sort of insulting, when you study the issues, and have to go toe-to-toe with someone who refuses to entertain discussion beyond AM radio grandstanding.

Whatever. I welcome anyone, anywhere to step with me on any topic. I have handled much better than you, in much less time.

Notice you are the one who has started getting personal. Wonder why?

revelsunrise
04-06-04, 04:46 PM
Maybe the board just needs a Tame-filter? I'd be a fan.. I just sort of get tired of knee-jerk reactionary crap. It's sort of insulting, when you study the issues, and have to go toe-to-toe with someone who refuses to entertain discussion beyond AM radio grandstanding.



But my point is that you are at no point required to particpate in a discussion about it or to react to his point of view at all. People need to put on some thicker skin and stop getting so riled up about everything.

So, he says something that nobody agrees with. Does anybody actually think that getting into a tizzy and putting him down is going to change that?

Tame
04-06-04, 04:47 PM
To Tame's credit, I'm sure he can engage in the sort of dialogue I propose. It's just that when he doesn't, or when others don't, or when I don't, that I think the purpose of the community has broken down ever so slightly.

How 'bout if you, oh I don't know, be a member for more than a week before spouting off about me? Thanks.