Food Issues Food Log

[Linzey]

If you refuse grains, you must find other calorie-dense vegetable alternatives: Avocado, bananas, potatoes, yams, nuts, seeds, dates. You'll kill your body trying to live off of cabbage and equal packets.

That's going to be my alternative. I had both banana and yam today. Mind you, not tons, but my stomach is still adapting to solids. But I chose higher cal alternatives despite the three packages of celery in the fridge.

Baby steps I guess.

-Linz

[CharityAJO]

I'd lay bets on that being more attributable to your own psychological state than the food.

I'm not trying to be mean, but you need a lot of help. I'd really prefer you to find a psychiatrist you like.

[freemouse]

Ok, Linzey, the studies that have been done so far used PURE form of the opoid-like peptide, exorphin, and injected into rats by the truckload. You don't get doped by eating a bread crust ok? I know wheat allergy is another issue, but others have told you that there exist so many wheat alternatives.

[CharityAJO]

That's going to be my alternative. I had both banana and yam today. Mind you, not tons, but my stomach is still adapting to solids. But I chose higher cal alternatives despite the three packages of celery in the fridge.

Baby steps I guess.

-Linz
Good, I saw you had those. I don't know if it's considered dicey to share addresses online, but I'd really like to send you some of my fave new raw brownies! They're bitty bite size and full of foods you like. :)

[Linzey]

Aww, you are so sweet :) Thing is, we don't get mail to our po box in our city that we actually live in...it's a very long story. I ask my sister to send me e-mail rather than snail mail too, because I'd get her letters like a long time later.

I know part of the setup was for security reasons (dangerous individual and stalking). It's hard to not go into without my e-friends taking offense...so please don't take offense! :(

It's a very sweet offer...could you post the recipe? I promise to get all the ingredients, make them and enjoy them :) Wheat free brownies, huh? Sound great! I'll even take pics...my mum says my food is tasty and there is a photo section for recipes here, right?

Aww, thank you for thinking of me though.

Luv,

Linz

[Linzey]

Due to epidemiology Prof Dohan, Philadelphia proposed that there was a clearcut connection of gluten to schizophrenia (Dohan et al (1984) Biol Psychiat 19:385-399; Dohan (1983) Biol psychiat 18:561-564). See also Lorenz K (1990) Adv in Cereal Sci and Technol X:435-469. The effect of diet takes a long time because the kidneys are very well adapted to preserve peptides and proteins. We found that it took 28 weeks of strict diet to normalize the urinary excretion of peptides in a double blind study of diet followed with urine analysis and rating scales (Reichelt et al (1990) J Orthomol Med 5:223-239). Most experiments on diet have been far too short in time, but even then all admit to individuals being much improved on diet although not statistically for the group (Rice JR et al (1978) Amer J psychiat 135:1417-1148; Storms LH et al (1982) Arch Gen Psychiat 39:323-327; NB: Vlissides DN et al (1986) Brit J Psychiat 148:441-452)

The low number partaking in the experiments have been criticized (King DS (1985) Biol Psychiat 20:785-787.). Clearcut effect of diet in schizophrenia was found by a) Dohan and Grasberger (1973) Am J Psychiat 130:685-686: Singh and Kay (1976) Science 191:401-402; Cade R et al (1990) Psychiatry: A world perspective 3:494-500 (he uses our urine screening too).

In autistic children we have very good results as documented with STRICT diet (Knivsberg SA-M et al (1990) Brain Dysfunct 3:315-327 and also Reichelt Klet al (1991) Brain Dysfunct 4:308-319). In the last publication evidence for the identification of bovine casomorphin 1-8 immunoreactive peptides was reported, and opioids are formed from food proteins in the gut. Also extremely important is the fact that everybody takes up bioactive peptides and also trace amounts of protein from the gut (Gardner MLG (1994) in Physiology of the gastrointestinal tract (Johnson LR : edit) Rave Press, NY pp 1795-1820), That this is so can be seen from the fact that we all have IgG antgibodies to food proteins. Because there are 15 opioid sequences in one molecule of gluten (Fukudome and Yoshokawa (1991) Febs lett 296:107-111) even trace amount so protein uptake can be catastsrophic if not properly broken down.

In general we also find increased IgA antibody levels in schizophrenics (Reichelt et al in press) and usually peptide increased in the urine. The problem is usually that diet is tried as a last resort, and because there are strong indications that opioids inhibit the normal maturation of the CNS (Zagon and Mclaughlin (1987) Brain Res 412:66-72) it is no wonder that we often are too late or that it takes time to change the course of the disease. NMR studies are quite clear that trophic changes do take place. The opioids do get in the CNS as in Post partum psychosis, which is a dramatic and symptom rich psychosis (Lindstr|m et al 1984) Amer J Psychiat 141:1059-1066)


I remember reading that there was a 'form' of anorexia that seemed to be triggered by viral infection. It didn't present like the diet-go-awry case studies. It seemed more out of the blue, without cause, without warning...and in many ways this is what happened with me.

I never went on a diet at all. I more or less stopped eating whole chunks of things after a very bad battle with pneumonia. I couldn't eat anything for about a week and was very ill...the pneumonia was not diagnosed until after my lungs were badly infected. The doc's said it even did some scarring. I got pnuemonia 3 times that year.

I was, I could add, born with a comprimised immune system too. And I wasn't around a lot of children when I was very, very little.

Also, I have many autistic like 'tendencies'. Mostly, Dabrowski's OE (over exicitabilities).

When I was 7, I was put on a diet to help with what presented originally as CF...I was allowed all but, like, 10 items. Nothing from a box. Nothing with salt. Veggies and fruits were even restricted to CERTAIN kinds. I remember they permitted: melon, peach, water, unsalted peanut butter, certain veggies, tofu (unsalted)...etc. FAR more restrictive than my diet is even now, in terms of what I will let myself have.

I was reading about how many anoretics are also born in the spring. I know that rates of schizophrenia spike in March, out of all months. The idea is that at a certain vulnerable time in pregnancy, a battle with the influenza bug or maybe some viral problem...can effect the developing fetus.

Maybe there is something to be said of viruses and ed's too? General sensitivity and then a viral trigger?

As you can tell, I'm very interested in viral theories as causitive agents behind many 'mental' disorders; no doubt people wind up psychologically...impacted...after dealing so long with a biochemical problem too. Mind and body are connected, so what may not begin as a psychological problem can certainly...grow...and become one too.

At least imho. Please don't smack me! I just find the studies fascinating. I'm not using it as an excuse. I know, ultimately, I can't go for long on nothing. I'm trying to find a balance where I don't feel psychologically crappy by eating and it's hard and takes time, so right now I'm experimenting with food combos a lot.

I've come to the conclusion that bananas are 'ok' for me. My belly didn't bloat at all. This is a positive thing! Apples cause horrible bloat...someone told me it's cause I have IBS and they are so full of fructose. They also said that I notice when someone is using a certain type of lead pencil in an exam room based on the scratchy sound of pencil on paper, and it's no wonder why autistics (and people with features of hfa) can have eating problems too. Not ed's in the same sense, but many autistics are rigid about what they eat, and when, and how it is prepared and if food a) touches food b) then they freak and can't eat...and so on.

I'm very fascinated by it biochemistry, so anytime you'd like post a bc related posting, Mouse, I'm sure to read very throughly!

Hmm, I wonder if my social awkwardness is not just anxiety now but anxiety + all these other autist features. I'm not the emotionally unattached person...I am very concerned with animal welfare and so on, but I sometimes feel like ET. Lost in the wrong galaxy.

-Linz

[porvida]

well, i did bad bad bad today.
oatmeal and jam and banana and berry soymilk.
but then, i had a panic attack at school because of a math test I was going to fail, and I went home.
chocolate, dried cranberries, peanut butter, mango, peach, a baby potato.
NONE of which stayed..um...there.


I HATE THIS.
I'm hungry. I'm going out to get chinese with my mom.

[CharityAJO]

I wish I made them! Har. No, they're store bought. I can post the *ingredients*: Walnuts, agave nectar, carob powder, coconut and orange peel. (Gopal's Raw Alchemy Enzyme Rich Brownies)

[CharityAJO]

Good, Porvida. :) For going out. For taking charge when hunger strikes. Excellent.

[Linzey]

I had dinner for once: 1/3 cup rissotto, but LOTS of veggies. Probably too much. Came home, hungry, and ate a lot! 3 cups of cut up veggies...onions, celery and caluflower. AHH. Bloated tummy, but I guess that's normal on 3 cups. Which is way too much food for dinner, but at least I was hungry.

I'm not worrying about it any more tonight. I'm doing my homework and going to bed...

-Linz

[ingenting]

Well yesterday went all wrong:\
I freaked out 'cause I didn't feel hungry all day...(nor did I yesterday). But that's not really the point.. I came to the conclusion that eating scrambled tofu in a public place without a spoon was imPOSSIBLE:D and when I got home (around 5) I still wasn't hungry, so I had the fruitsmoothie... and dinner was: 1/2 lebanese bread, some peanutbutter, muesli, custard and a green capsicum (mom wasn't home and I was too tired to cook a proper meal).


Today I think I'll have:
Apple/Carrot smoothie (next week I'm switching to something else)
2 crackers or muesli
chickpeas with lentil stew
berries and whatever veggies I can find in this house (the fruit:vegetable ratio isn't really balanced)
Dinner
glass of chocolate soymilk (am trying to make the switch to soyproducts again)

[Cissy]

Linz - that is NOT TOO MUCH or even enough.

[porvida]

really early morning (b?): some of an everything bagel with tofutti and some of a vegan pumpkin spice cookie
later morning (l??): caramel apple luna bar, nectarine, and some pretzels and dried fruit.
then I fell asleep and slept until 2 pm! it was like 6 more hours!! and I woke up STARVING so my mom is stopping at pick up stix and getting me schezuan vegetables, and if I'm hungry later i'll have korean barbecue tofu.
man i'm hungry.

[vggiegirl]

I had dinner for once: 1/3 cup rissotto, but LOTS of veggies. Probably too much. Came home, hungry, and ate a lot! 3 cups of cut up veggies...onions, celery and caluflower. AHH. Bloated tummy, but I guess that's normal on 3 cups. Which is way too much food for dinner, but at least I was hungry.

I'm not worrying about it any more tonight. I'm doing my homework and going to bed...

-Linz

that's totally not too much veggies. Plus depending how they were prepared, a lot of the bloating could just be veggie gas too <shrug> I get really bloated when I eat onions of all things lol.

[Linzey]

Breakfast: orange, celery and salsa, 2 hard candies
snack: tea, 2 hard candies
lunch: a hard candy, tea, some cooked kelp
snack: 1/2 cup tomato juice, tea, gum
dinner: 1/2 a large orange, 1 cup unsalted popcorn

[CharityAJO]

Porvida, is there rice to go with your Chinese?

Linzey - while you know candy and gum doesn't constitute a meal... I am happy to see the popcorn, for it is something almost resembling a starch. Did you add a bit of olive oil and nut yeast to make it yummy and healthier? :D

[misq17]

Breakfast: 2 blueberry muffins, Chex with pretzels and some raisins

Lunch: PB on whole wheat bread, pretzels, 2 potato chips

Dinner: Bowl of veggie soup, 2 cheese mancotti, 2 slices of bread

I ate breakfast!!!! YAYYYY!! I need to work on fruits and veggies more but I ate breakfast two days in a row!!!!!!

[kristadb]

Linzey, there is a post for you in the ETL thread.

misq - good job on breakfast :up:

[Linzey]

p.s. Charity...post-dinner snack. I had 2 ish more cups popcorn and 1/3 cup rice when I watched my movie tonight. I had some veggie yeast with it...we have no olive oil in the house, but we did have brewer's yeast. A little bit bitter...but oh well. :)

My friends are coming over tomorrow...lots of veggies and stuff :D I always eat better when they come over.

[Jinga]

Another less than nutritionally sound day, so it goes here ....

Unfortunately, I was very lazy in packing and planning for the day. I did not have enough healthy options at work.

B ~ 2 servings of pretzels. Diet Coke.
L ~ 1 slice deep dish cheese pizza. 2C grapes. Diet Coke.
S ~ Banana. ... Diet Coke.
D ~ The last 3 slices of pizza. Thankfully, its all been consumed. ... and another Diet Coke.
S ~ Part of a box of Strawberry Silk. It was frozen, so drinking through that tiny straw proved difficult.
S ~ 1 serving of Pretzels ... and .... yes ... erm ... a Diet Coke.

I wonder why I am extremely figit-ridden right now :stinkeye: ... I only have a few DCs left. I am thinking of putting them in the bottom drawer of my fridge ... the drawer that won't open without the door swung completely open into the wall. I seriously need to 'detox' from the diet soda. The problem is I don't want to be without it ... which is a pretty good indication that I need to be :-/

[MsRuthieB]

Jinga...Do you know the dangers of too much Aspartame (the sweetner in your diet coke)? Maybe knowing that will help you kick the habbit. http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/symptoms.htm

[Jinga]

Jinga...Do you know the dangers of too much Aspartame (the sweetner in your diet coke)? Maybe knowing that will help you kick the habbit. http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/symptoms.htm

I have read some stuff about aspartame in the past, but then those issues always seem to be disproved by someone else. Its like the everything causes cancer dilemma. However ... I know there is positively nothing beneficial about diet coke. I guess I should go for another read :-/ ... Thanks.

[Jinga]

I just started reading and almost everything in the list of problems is something I have experienced in the past year. It might be a coincidence, but it would be interesting to see if my more constant problems went away. Some of the near constants include: eye problems, stomach problems, ringing in ears, loss of energy, joint problems, rashes, depression ... and of course the headaches when I don't get DC 'soon enough'. Interesting ...

[MsRuthieB]

It's addicting I know. I was addicted for a long long time. But believe me, once you get off of it and then have some, you'll wonder why you ever was addicted to it in the first place.

I haven't drink pop in about 10 years, except at an occasional party if there's nothing else. The carbonation is enough to choke me.

Good Luck Jinga! :)

[Jinga]

It's addicting I know. I was addicted for a long long time. But believe me, once you get off of it and then have some, you'll wonder why you ever was addicted to it in the first place.

I haven't drink pop in about 10 years, except at an occasional party if there's nothing else. The carbonation is enough to choke me.

Good Luck Jinga! :)

Thank you :D

Do you have any more reputable 'aspartame is bad' links? I'd like to read more about the negative effects for people who aren't allergic ... even though it sounds like more people are than realize it.