What's The Most Disturbing Political Leaflet You Got?

[AccidentalVeg]

Mine was for Claudia Bermudez for Congress. She was very busy listing her opponent's voting record on her leaflet. Here was the part that really freaked me out, personally.


LEE VOTED AGAINST allowing school prayer DURING THE WAR ON TERROR!!

Prayer being, you know, our most important weapon in that War On Terror.

:brood:

Okay. Pray all you like. At home, at church, in the car, while on hold (I used to do that. I would pray for faster service.) but come on! Using The War On Terror to push forward prayer in schools?

Um. Yeah. And Second Ammendment Rights were in Claudia Bermudez's top ten reasons why you should vote for her. She'll keep you armed AND praying, IN SCHOOL.

Nice.

[Gothic Sponge]

So much for our secular nation.... Can't these people get it through their heads that not everyone believes in god, or they pray to a different god?!

[mouse]

The most disturbing one I received was during the primary. A Republican challenger to a Republican incumbent on the county council sent out a flyer attacking the incumbant for not supporting a same sex marriage ban ordinance (a non-issue on the county level, even if one was terrified by the prospect of same sex marriage). The challenger was running solely on his "protection of marriage", and his flyer was filled with photos of him, his wife, and their toddlers.

It was intensely disturbing to me personally, since it compelled me to take a Republican ballot so that I could vote against the idiot challenger. :p

[Gothic Sponge]

The most disturbing one I received was during the primary. A Republican challenger to a Republican incumbent on the county council sent out a flyer attacking the incumbant for not supporting a same sex marriage ban ordinance (a non-issue on the county level, even if one was terrified by the prospect of same sex marriage). The challenger was running solely on his "protection of marriage", and his flyer was filled with photos of him, his wife, and their toddlers.

It was intensely disturbing to me personally, since it compelled me to take a Republican ballot so that I could vote against the idiot challenger. :p

Hehe! Good for you!

:sunny:

[Annie]

Secular nation? Maybe the longer we are here dumbing it down. Don't forget this country was founded in Christianity. Read the very first legislation regarding how to live and govern ourselves, The Mayflower Compact. They overshot where they were suppose to land, knowing they were out of their jurisdiction,they made a governing contract relying on God, prayer, and church... before they got off the boat and set foot on land! They knew the importance of self control, and self government being intertwined with God's will. Read every other document of our founding fathers.

What does the founding father of our country say?...

To the distinguished character of “patriot”, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of “Christian”….. George Washington

The only reason this country is becoming more and more secular, is that the history of our foundation is being stripped away. Our kids are no longer taught about the prayer at Valley Forge (well documented), but they sure know about cherry trees, false teeth, and powdered wigs. It's detestable.

[Thalia]

There are two guys running for county recorder (basically a guy who runs the records dept and shouldn't be elected anyhow) named O'Malley. The present guy has been doing a good job but I guess has a shady personal life. I heard the ad for his opponent on the radio where he talks about the incumbant as the "bad" O'Malley and that he is the "good" O'Malley. He even used his little 3 yr old to say something like, "My daddy's the good O'Malley". I thought how sick. I got a card in the mail saying much the same thing.

But the things it says against the incumbant are so crazy, (and at least some of it I found to be true accd to our newspaper), I thought, wow, he ain't kidding, this guy is the bad one. There was a long list of crazier and crazier things the incumbant had allegedly done such as:
jailed for domestic violence
jailed for beating someone up
not paying property taxes bc he didn't know he owned it (he's the record keeper!)
threatened the life of the mayor
charged with assault of an EMS worker who was responding to an emergency
and my favorite, "County Democratic Chairman said in 2002 that Pat O'Malley is, 'INSANE'"
And the challenger is endorsed by Women Against Domestic Violence.

The challenger's ads are pretty tasteless, but I think I will vote for him now that I have verified the info.

[mouse]

Hmmmm...Annie, would you feel the same way if the religion being "encouraged" were Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, or any other non-Christian religion?

[IamJen]

Oh man, I can't pick just one. Here in the land of uber-Christianity (note: not mocking Christianity, just this variation thereof), the gay marriage issue has brought out all sorts of interesting folks.

My favorite still is the doorknob flyer with "facts about tobacco" that credits cigarrettes for making people gay. This is from the same group that I posted an article about here a few weeks ago.

Numerous flyers and or/calls have told me that if I don't vote for the gay marriage ban, that God will bring about "another 9/11". Hmmmm....I could've sworn that Osama bin Laden was the architect of those attacks? :rolleyes:

[Annie]

Hmmmm...Annie, would you feel the same way if the religion being "encouraged" were Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, or any other non-Christian religion?
Yes, I would. The importance of how the country was *established* is belittled exponentially. If any of the other religions were the bases of our government and foundation of law...I'd say TEACH that it was! It doesn't mean that you have to "follow" that faith, but don't cover up how we got here!

[AccidentalVeg]

"Don't vote for my opponent, HE'S INSANE!!!!!"

Oh man. That does take the cake.

Annie, the topic is what leaflets disturbed you the most? You can sift through your mail and find one. Surely. Things said in election year can be deeply worrisome.

I'm not gonna touch the topic of whether this is a Christian nation or not. We do have a lot folks living here who are not Christian and no, they are not gonna leave. I'm one of them.

:D

[Annie]

...You can sift through your mail and find one. Surely.
Actually, we never received one single pamphlet, flyer, door hanger, mail box space taker upper, knock on the door, phone call, or poll survey...
I'll manage to vote anyway! :D

P.S. Nobody said anybody should leave anywhere.... I just think history should be taught accurately, instead of watered down, fogged over and re-written. If Buddah wrote the Declaration of Independence, I'd say "teach that he did!" That's all I mean... politics is interwoven with history no matter *how* you slice it.

[IamJen]

Yes, I would. The importance of how the country was *established* is belittled exponentially. If any of the other religions were the bases of our government and foundation of law...I'd say TEACH that it was! It doesn't mean that you have to "follow" that faith, but don't cover up how we got here!

But, isn't our nation a living, breathing, changing organism. Just because the founders were strong in Christian beliefs, doesn't mean that people are that way today.

We could reinstate slavery and take away women/non-land owner's rights to vote too. :D

[Annie]

But, isn't our nation a living, breathing, changing organism. Just because the founders were strong in Christian beliefs, doesn't mean that people are that way today.

We could reinstate slavery and take away women/non-land owner's rights to vote too. :D
Slavery is offensive, but it *is* true, documented, factual history. So is sufferage. So is the Holocaust. So is World War 1. So is the founding of this country/government/politics on Christian faith. Point: Let history be taught in truth and whole. Re-writing it with omission of facts in order to placate people is wrong.

[ebola]

Hold on...let me author a pamphlet for you guys. :)

[Annie]

Hold on...let me author a pamphlet for you guys. :)



<-----------will only read it, if it's historically accurate! :deal: :lol:

[Dirty Martini]

Re-writing it with omission of facts in order to placate people is wrong.

Mmm, as is accepting only the history that is written by the majority/victors/etc. I always wondered what women were doing while men were running the country, until I took a "women in american history" course in college. Fascinating stuff - too bad you have to take a specific class on it and that it's not really taught in k-12 (except for the cutesy stuff about helen keller and susan b. anthony or harriet tubman).

How different our history classes would be if 90% of the material were written & taught from the perspectives of native americans, slaves, mexicans, other minorities, and women. hummm.... I've always been curious about how the US Revolutionary war is taught in British schools.

anyway... because of living overseas, I haven't gotten the pamphlets or inundation of political ads (minus the howard/latham aussie stuff on TV).

it's actually been quite nice!! And the amount of crap I throw into the recycling bin is much less, I am sure...

[Annie]

[OT]

- too bad you have to take a specific class on it and that it's not really taught in k-12 (except for the cutesy stuff about helen keller and susan b. anthony or harriet tubman).

Exactly! It took place! It's real. It's relevant. Teach it!

[April]

Not everything that takes place and is real is relevant.

[Annie]

Not everything that takes place and is real is relevant.

"women in american history" Is.

[CountessKerouac]

Most disturbing leaflet I've ever gotten was one about becoming a deacon (I forget what religion it pertained to though) and how it is good to be a deacon because you can abuse your wife. It talked all about how men were smarter than women. It scared me...

[otomik]

often it's not relevant and attempts to turn the focus to women look like tokenism to me. in the art world the common pattern is to look at the artwork of the wife of a previously more well known artist. stieglitz and o'keef, pollock and krasner, more recently their fame comes almost simultanously as in the case of Robert Longo and Cindy Sherman.

[Kurmudgeon]

The most disturbing one I've gotten here in Australia is one from some American extreme right-wing Christian fundie bunch informing us that America is going to be the World Police. I've received nothing so extreme from any Aussie groups.

[ebola]

>>So is the founding of this country/government/politics on Christian faith. >>

Frankly, the writings of the founding fathers are like the Bible. That is, there are numerous ways of interpreting their writing, and this interpretation is most often made in the image of the reader's pre-existing opinions. What more, appeals to the founding fathers have little bearing on what currently should be done, as is the case with any other appeal to tradition.

[Thalia]

OK- Mod note, this has been off-topic long enough. Start a new thread.

[Red]

What's The Most Disturbing Political Leaflet You Got?

d) none.

You folks honestly read that stuff? bleccch. Since I $upport individual candidates and not parties, I get it in equal parts from all sides. The dems, repubs, libertarians and greens all think I'm in their fold 'cause of someone I supported in the past. I never read anything they send.