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revelsunrise
August 28th, 2004, 03:50 AM
Okay ladies...I want to know what y'all think of it!

Videos, internet, or books?

Hardcore or softcore?

Fetishes?

Just curious.

shagginabit
August 28th, 2004, 03:53 AM
I'll take video porn for 300 alex. :lol:


seriously, I like watching porn. Not that it gets me in the mood, but that its funny. I always get a laugh out of it. I have dozens of books, magazines, movies...but they usually just amuse me.

Breathe
August 28th, 2004, 04:00 AM
Videos and books.

softcore.

fetishes? nah. i dont think so anyway...

BoysStink
August 28th, 2004, 04:47 AM
I'll take video porn for 300 alex. :lol:


seriously, I like watching porn. Not that it gets me in the mood, but that its funny. I always get a laugh out of it. I have dozens of books, magazines, movies...but they usually just amuse me.


Lmao porn cracks me up to the foolest

i didnt think there was anyone else who felt the same

:nana:

stellar26
August 28th, 2004, 07:54 AM
Porn is my friend :lovesign:

msbunnicula
August 28th, 2004, 08:21 AM
I like porn too. Usually relatively softcore video or anime (I don't like anything that is violent).

zoebird
August 28th, 2004, 10:59 AM
i have all sorts of opinions on porn. but the question is--when don't i have opinions on someting?

About porn: the first question is, what qualifies as porn? is all erotic art porn? does it have to have a certain "hard core" nature to be porn? see Suicide Girls (suicidegirls.com) and compare it to other porn sites and see what may or may not be porn.

while i have viewed a lot of porn, lots of types and styles of porn in nearly every form of media available, it's mostly as an acedemic study. what are we protraying as 'heterosexual male fantasy' (in the case of heterosexual porn)? are we protraying female heterosexuality as well--or merely a fantasy? what impact does this have on our cultural notions of 'healthy' sexuality, our own sex lives, and our sexual choices?

coupled with this, what are our cultural and countercultural (feminist) responses to porn? are we to be offended? find it ok? find it exciting or titilating? is it "wrong?" does it fuel violence against women and children?

the porn/sex industry a service-providing/entertainment industry. i don't think it's wrong to look at porn. I know that many women are offended when the (male) significant others look at porn. i think that, as a per se idea, this is problematic. Ie, he looks at porn, so culturally i must be offended by that!

porn has it's problems. There are many violent images against women and children. For some, this may fuel sick fantasies that step well outside the box of one's mind and self-pleasuring. there is a correlation between preditory individuals and the amount of related-porn that they view (eg, child sexual predators are more likely interested in imagery that mimicks or is child pornography).

i think the more intreguing questions about porn arise relating to human sexualty. Through porn (and even just in regular movies, soaps, tv shows, etc), there is a particular depiction of male and female heterosexuality. Due to much of the power structure of the media (particularly in the past), many of the depictions of female heterosexuality are extensions of male fantasy, rather then woman-owned, woman-discussed, and woman-displayed heterosexuality.

this then begs the question--what is a female heterosexuality? is it merely an extension of male heterosexuality? do many of us, as heterosexual women, "buy into" or consciencously choose certain sexual roles and modalities related to our sex? Do we simply extrapolate "appropriate" sexual behavoir from these cultural sources and then internalize them--thereby "assuming" a male-fantastic version of female sexuality? or do we conscienciously choose to reject or accept these ideas and images into our own sex lives?

for me, porn is an interesting study. i continually question whether or not my sexuality is simply something that i have been trained to live out in a certain way, or if it is something that i conscienciously choose.

i think this is why lesbianism (the real deal, not voyeuristic lesbian-male fantasy), is such a threat to many "mainstream" men and women. Lesbians reject--from the onset--every form of cultural understanding of female sexuality to develop their own, truly and exactly feminine sexuality outside of male fantasy. It's sort of a "whole new world" of female sexuality, completely reflected in female body and relationship. Perhaps it is only the truly "pure" female sexuality. lesbianism, then, can inform female heterosexuality becoming a blossoming offshoot of that individual and cultural struggle for female identity and sexuality.

for me, again, it comes down to conscienciousness. Let's take the concept of spanking as sexual pleasure and a part of fetish-related sexuality. It is a particular concept of my sexuality that i'm struggling with.

When i was about 7 or 8 yrs old, i had a birthday party at my grandmother's house. many of my aunts and uncles where there (my father has 4 siblings), as well as cousins my age and their friends. At the end of the 'gift opening' time, my parents were out getting the cake and ice cream together. my aunt, then, grabbed me and said "time for your birthday spanking!" I struggled against her as i didn't want this to occur (at that time, i had only been spanked as a severe punishment for a severe action on my part; i neither remember the actions or the amounts of incidents, but i believe it was a rare occurance). she won over of course, and in front of everyone (except my parents) she pulled up my skirt, down my panties and gave me 7 good hits and "one to grow on." i remember feeling confused, humiliated, and deeply ashamed.

fast forward to age 22 or so (that's 5 years ago). I began to have submission/domination fantasies related to having a male teacher, principal, or security guard spank me for some infraction (ie, poor grammar, tardiness, shoplifting). While these fantasies titilated and entertained me, they also frighted me.

spanking and related (so-called) violent imagery against women and children (i was often dressed in a child-like fashion in the fantasies), are considered culturally wrong in both mainstream and counterculture (feminist) circles. To participate in this is to either A. participate in violent acts against women and children by supporting such behavoir by enjoying such a fantasy (mainstream) or B. succumbing to male dominiation fantasy that inhibits child development and healthy female sexuality (feminist). While there is a third counter cultural modality (fetishism), their opinion is that "consenting adults do what consenting adults want to do."

But the real question for me is--am i a truly consenting adult? Am i merely responding, and wanting to take power back from a previous humilating experience by adding my own power element to it (desiring the punishment for small infractions as a modus of power)? am i simply sumbitting to male domination fantasy and abandoning my own sexual power and identity? Can i participate in these activities as a healthy, chosen aspect of my sexuality or are they per-se going to be aspects of cultural saturation of female heterosexuality as an extension of male power and heterosexuality and/or a response to social shame and humiliation?

I think that it is possible to participate conscienciously, and yet it is a very fine line. Where does the cultural saturation and assumption of roles and modalities come in and where are we conscienciously choosing to take a modality outside of it's structure, redefine it (or remove cultural meaning for it), and then reappropriate it to our own, individual, sexual preferences?

my husband says "because we're smart, we can rationalize any "bad" behavoir that we want!" heheehheh.

yeah, so i look at a LOT of porn and erotic art--but i think it's just my whacky cultural study and a way of reflecting my own desire for an autonomous, authentic sexualty as an aspect of my total life experience (which i want to be autonomous and authentic).

how's that for an answer?

Jinga
August 28th, 2004, 11:47 AM
I can appreciate nudity in an artful way ... although its hard to draw the line of what is art and what isn't. In general, I think porn is sad. The majority of women involved are there because they haven't found a better way to support themselves. Many of them had 'negative situations' or relationships that led them down this road. A large number probably need the attention to feel good about themselves. I think porn as a whole perpetuates the idea of women being sexual objects for men. Most of the male porn is geared towards men, as well. I understand the 'entertainment' value, but when I think about the actual people involved, it becomes far less appealing.

Although, I have loosened up as I've gotten older, most of the above stems from feelings I had as a kid. I absolutely hated puberty because I felt that being a women was all about being an object for men. If you were pretty, all the guys wanted you, but for all the wrong reasons. If you weren't pretty, no one wanted you at all. A lot of my objections about the industry have to do with not wanting other girls to feel the way I did.

Formerbaboon
August 28th, 2004, 12:34 PM
Porn is cool. Gets me in the mood :p

holly golightly
August 28th, 2004, 04:45 PM
i like videos and erotic stories.

Breathe
August 28th, 2004, 05:46 PM
Suicide Girls definitly. they are beautiful and it isnt the stereotypical type of porn.

thebelovedtree
August 28th, 2004, 05:56 PM
i'm kind of into the more hard core porn, I have a little bit of a s and m streak in me, so my b/f and I are always on the look out for ideas :whip:

Bobsy
August 28th, 2004, 07:36 PM
hehe, zoebird, I've had many of the same thought processes. :)

I read a lot of black lace books, which class as erotica, though TBH I think some of the "romance" books my MIL reads are more explicit. :D If you've never read a modern romance novel you'd be quite surprised by what goes on between those pastel-shaded covers. I've read certain scenes aloud to my bf on occasion and he has been quite shocked. :p

Pictures don't do anything for me. Videos depend. Most of it is too clinical for my taste, but I do seek out certain directors and 'stars' who bring a certain human quality to the occasion. When the chemistry between director, man and woman (or man and man/woman and woman) is right then hardcore or softcore, it's all good. :D Luckily, my bf and I have very similar tastes in what we find appealing.

CaptainSwab
August 28th, 2004, 08:38 PM
I'll admit to liking a bit of porn. I like looking at pictures on the internet or watching videos that my husband downloaded from his dorm network a while ago when we were undergrads. :)

As Formerbabon stated, it gets me in the mood. :D

DancNSpin
August 28th, 2004, 08:49 PM
I like porn, mostly softcore, although once in a while the hard freaky stuff is fun to watch, even bondage I like sometimes. I like to remain pretty open minded and that stuff usually turns me on pretty good. My boyfriend is extremely amused that I like it. However, I don't really watch it, b/c I don't have a tv.

SuicideBlonde
August 28th, 2004, 08:53 PM
I like most porn. I like anime stuff or just about anything. Just not the playgirl types of things. Women are much better to look at then men. I was given the set of A. N. Roquelaure books one year (Anne Rice). I have not read much of them yet. I just keep getting distracted.

Dirty Martini
August 28th, 2004, 09:20 PM
I don't like standard "porn" - you know, where the woman is staring off into space making generic grunts while the camera focuses in on the guy's schlong etc etc... tacky, gross, and downright uninspiring. I find the objectification in porn a huge, huge turnoff.

But I do find sensual movies a turnon, like Dangerous Liaisons or OOOOOOOOH The Piano....

The point is that I have to have my *mind* engaged, not just my eyes. The romance, the chase, the dialogue has to be there, not just the sex. A movie that has a lot of suggestion but no actual sex scenes is *much* more of a turnon than a porn with no interesting dialogue & is mostly just sex.

IamJen
August 28th, 2004, 11:04 PM
The majority of women involved are there because they haven't found a better way to support themselves. Many of them had 'negative situations' or relationships that led them down this road. A large number probably need the attention to feel good about themselves.

How do you know this to be true?

Jinga
August 28th, 2004, 11:13 PM
How do you know this to be true?

Its not true in every case, hence the 'in generals' and 'a lot ofs'. From most of the interviews I have seen with these women, they admit to one or more of the things mentioned. My personal experience also follows along those lines. I'm sure there are some porn stars out there that turned down full scholarships to school because they truly wanted to have sex with strangers on film for no reason other than it was their favorite form of acting. I don't think they are the norm.

manics_fan
August 29th, 2004, 12:48 AM
I like slashy fanfics on the internet which I guess is a type of porn only non visual, for those of you who don't know slashy fanfics are male/male fictional stories writen about real people, I like slash because it leaves a lot of it up to your imagination and of course it's about real people that I find attractive (mostly the Manics but there are some others too) which is better than just 2 strangers having sex that may not be attractive on a TV screen I think, I also have writen a few slash stories myself (Manics related of course) and yeah, I do like some kinky stuff in them, I also like a bit of porn in books (for the same sort of reasons), my fave books are Anne Rice's vampire chronicles which usually have some porny bits in them ;) ,

Stay Beautiful,

Aissa.

Dirty Martini
August 29th, 2004, 01:36 AM
hey check this out - how timely! There's an article in the NY times about women & watching porn...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/29/arts/television/29DOMI.html?8br=&pagewanted=all&position=


...Like most pornographic movies, they feature pat scenarios: a woman alone with the man behind the counter in a diner after hours; a woman making moves on the guy at the grocery store. But some differences are striking: the female actresses look a lot more like real people, with normal, natural bodies, than like porn stars. There are fewer close-ups on actual genital contact (in one, there's almost none). To eliminate awkward, off-putting dialogue, the characters interact very little before they make physical contact. The attention to detail shows up in the short but manicured nails, the hand-stitched lingerie and the specificity of the wardrobe: for a scene set in a 50's diner, a vintage dress was brought in from a Los Angeles wardrobe shop. Although Mr. Graff would not give specifics on budget, he says the cost of the average Playgirl film is higher than the cost of his old Spice productions. "Those shoes are expensive," he explains...

Rebel Girl
August 29th, 2004, 07:35 PM
porn rocks.

i like artsy softcore i guess, and suicide girls. mmm yeah suicide girls rock.

Chrysalis
August 29th, 2004, 11:20 PM
Hardcore description books

Soft videos (watching a penis actually go in and out of someone's vagina just leaves nothing to the imagination)

I don't think I really have fetishes...although I do have a thing for accents, they are such a turn on! Except for Southern-American accents, no offense to anyone here but those are more of a turn-off than anything. I also seem to fall for dark-haired, dark-eyed and/OR dark-skinned men. I never fall for blonds.

Descentia
August 29th, 2004, 11:30 PM
I enjoy porn occasionally. I like reading erotic stories - I have a couple of good free internet sites that have some interesting stuff on there!

I don't mind an occasional video, or watching a downloaded vid off the net and it can do it for me at times, but video porn is a bit mindless. Plus I cannot watch porn with the sound up - all that annoying gasping and fake groaning just sounds comical and completely reverses any arousal I might have been feeling.

Fetishes - I'll take the fifth!

CharityAJO
August 29th, 2004, 11:36 PM
My idea of good video porn? A Colin Firth flick.

Other than that I watch it for sh*ts and giggles, not actual stimulation. I'd rather read something sensual.