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raylea
April 18th, 2004, 12:12 PM
In practice, kosher gelatin is usually made of agar-agar - a plant (seaweed) derivative.
http://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/127/Q1/


Most kosher gelatins are also vegetarian.
http://www.ochef.com/199.htm

Does this mean that kosher gelatin is vegetarian?

If this is true... than Moon Pies are vegan :D

kpickell
April 18th, 2004, 12:17 PM
Kosher gelatin means non-pork gelatin. It could still be beef gelatin. You won't know unless it says.

IamJen
April 18th, 2004, 01:58 PM
I've not yet found a product in my HFS with kosher gelatin that is vegetarian. As mentioned, it would be non-pork gelatin, but it's mostly to do with how the animal is killed/prepared - that is, does the process follow Jewish dietary laws.

Loki
April 18th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Wouldn't the ingredients list on the side of the kosher gelatin explain what was in it?

kpickell
April 18th, 2004, 02:27 PM
Sometimes. But not when it's an ingredient in something like Moon Pies.

froggythefrog
April 18th, 2004, 02:51 PM
Kosher gelatin is pareve, which simply means that it is so removed from the animal that it is no longer considered an animal product. This means it can be agar agar, beef, etc.

tearhsong2
April 18th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Kosher gelatin could be beef gelatin or fish gelatin--all it means is that it's not from pork and that it's so processed that it's not considered an animal byproduct anymore.

Loki
April 18th, 2004, 05:01 PM
Sometimes. But not when it's an ingredient in something like Moon Pies.

Ah, the ingredients list says "kosher gelatin". Ouch! I guess it's one of those circumstances where one must contact the manufacturers.

raylea
April 18th, 2004, 07:28 PM
Does anyone (other than me) care so much about Moon Pies that I should contact them??

Neta558
April 18th, 2004, 07:37 PM
Does anyone (other than me) care so much about Moon Pies that I should contact them??

No need, Gelatin is always from animals, or it has a different name.
Kosher Gelatin is probably from fish so it can be used with milk products.
Boxes of fish gelatin usually has big statment of "kosher gelatin" on them, and that's probably the meaning in "moon pies" too, whatever it is..

IamJen
April 18th, 2004, 09:54 PM
http://www.kosherquest.org/bookhtml/MARSHMALLOWS.htm

raylea
April 20th, 2004, 06:45 PM
I emailed... and, unfortunately, it is from an animal source :( No Moon Pies for me... (on second thought, that could be a good idea!)

IamJen
April 20th, 2004, 10:33 PM
I could moon you while eating some pie...would that help? ;)

PS - Dutch Apple is my favorite.

Fenguin
April 21st, 2004, 06:21 AM
The gelatin used to make Count Chocula marshmallows comes from pig skin.

raylea
April 21st, 2004, 11:16 PM
I could moon you while eating some pie...would that help? ;)

PS - Dutch Apple is my favorite.

Is that supposed to sound so dirty? :think: :trick:

colorful
April 29th, 2005, 12:43 PM
Dannon yogurt was on sale for a super deal last night, so I bought some. This morning while we were eating it, my husband noticed that "kosher gelatin" is in the ingredient list. Has anyone ever found out whether Dannon yogurt is vegetarian?

Thanks! :D

bstutzma
April 29th, 2005, 12:44 PM
I'm pretty sure it isn't.

FreshTart
April 29th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Some are, some aren't. Assume not.

vggiegirl
April 29th, 2005, 01:07 PM
It's not :( Dannon used to make their fruit on the bottom yoghurts with fruit pectin and moved to gelatin. Jerks.

rainbow_clouds
April 29th, 2005, 01:52 PM
gelatin is always derived from an animal otherwise it's called something else.

vegagitator
May 1st, 2005, 07:49 AM
Kojel and Emes' "gelatins" are made with carageenan and vegan (careful, they may make non-vegan ones too). Hain Superfruit dessert jel is vegan too. Pangea Vegan Products has their own brand of VeganSweets dessert Jel mix.

vegagitator
May 1st, 2005, 08:11 AM
:doh: It won't let me post a link. I found a recipe for Moon Pies on All Recipes. It was under sandwich cookies, under filled cookies, under (duh) cookies. There are probably some other comprable recipes on the site too. I think you could veganize it fairly easily with some egg replacer and soy milk (sour it with a tiny bit of lemon juice or vinegar for "buttermilk"). Earth Balance and Spectrum make non-hydrogenated shortening made from Palm oil.