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Loki
March 29th, 2004, 11:41 AM
McDonalds Uk have offered a veggie burger since 1994. And it hasn't been all that bad. I'm not a regular customer at McDonalds. i pretty much go whenever other people go, and that's about it. However, this veggie burger is pretty much the best they could do with it: No nonsense: just throw a few veggies into a patty, and it has a mildly spicy taste, and hold the mayo, and it's pretty much vegan. Not that bad at all. It had twice the fat of a regular hamburger as well, so they'd obviously had taste as their main priority.

However, as of lately, Mcdonalds has had a global problem to contest with: No f**ker in their right mind wants to eat there any more. There is much competition: KFC offers bigass buckets of chicken, pizza hut offers better food, and the food at mcd's is overpriced, considering what it is. The solution it seems, has been to offer new foods, which are healthier, or at least sound healthier. So they introduced the mcsalads!!! You can gte a salad with mor efat in it than a hamburger. Sounds healthy if you don't know about the fat.

Anyway, mcdonalds has decide to phase out the old veggie burger, and in its stead, they now offer a quorn thingy. A visit into Blackpool with my mother earlier today, and my mum's desire to eat at mcd's meant that I'd be giving one of these a go. The following is a product review:

The new quorn thing "tastes like ass" Having never had any non-heterosexual adventures into strange orifices, one might say that I'm probably not qualified to make that comparison, but i do know now, that if I were to ever sample as, then I could possibly expect it to taste like the new quorn premiere available at Uk mcdonalds. (I'm not sure if they're just doing regional testing of the product, or whether it's been introduced country-wide.) Now, having dealt with quorn for 7 years of my life, i know that it can be put to good use. Decent applications involve heavy spicing and a lot of fat. Crap applications include throwing it in some yuppie foccacia bread with some salsa, lettuce and mayo. Oh, and the old veggie burger has been discontinued. Which is a shame, as it was an example of how to do things right: With twice the fat, and not being pretentious, but just offering a veggie burger.

I personally consider this product to be a f**k up. I think it's been on the market or less than 24 hours, (It said that it was available from 29th march in the store.) and it's already been slammed by everyone's favourite norse-deity impersonating british guy. My visits to mcdonalds are few and far between. i don't go there: i just end up there when i'm with friends, but it looks like I won't be going there again, since the food now genuinely is sh*t. The food used to be Ok, but now it has descended into the depths of Eternal rubbishness. this is the kind of culinary execrise where you don't have to be Anthony Worrall Thompson to be able to call it crap. The though that has gone into creating this product is minimal, and obviously, mcdonalds have neglected to perform taste tests. Either that, or they performed the taste tests in blackpool, selecting from a drugged up population which is native to blackpool, and just fed them the product, and they responded by stating that it filled their desire for food which had been created by intense dope smoking and a lack of money to spend on food due to drug use.

McDonalds have been attempting to relaunch their brands, but is it really working? Is making their food sh*tter going to attract more customers? Perhaps mcdonalds need to think about the taste of their products, such as launching a McVindaloo. The problem is that mcdonalds quest to appease the health nuts is what is driving it down the sink. Helathy food is generally crap food. When you see a sign which says "90% fat free", one can easily make the assumption that it is also going to be 90% taste free. Fat is good. It adds flavour. It makes food worth eating. It give food texture.

Here's my final score for the new Mcdonalds quorn premiere:

Taste: 2/10
price: 1/10
texture: 2/10
overall: 2/10

It is awful. Products like this should not be regarded as fit for human consumption. they should be fed only to smack addicts and horses. the executives sat in offices in central london who approved this silly idea, are arses. They deserve to be slapped on the face repeatedly with a wet kipper. I may be a veggie, but I'd personally buy and use a kipper for such a purpose, as i feel that doing so would be a great opportunity.

Oh, and if mcdonalds wants my custom, it needs to do three things:

1.) Start selling beer
2.) Start selling curry
3.) bring back the old veggie burger.

The Hanged Man
March 29th, 2004, 01:16 PM
I didn't go to Mc'Ds all to often, but I liked the veggie burger - because these weren't in demand like the othe stuff they do I always got mine fresh, at £1.40 I thought it was pretty expensive and I don't go for their fries ever since the fried in beef fat scandal.

I hate when places try to get more customers by offending all the regular loyal customers - especially when "new and improved" means pulled out of some ones ass the day before the deadline - I could have done product specification and design at high school.

The salads. Ugh! Never eat a salad anywhere unles you make it or the place has a good rep. Although salads are healthy the dressing are not.

Kiz
March 29th, 2004, 01:44 PM
I haven't tried the quorn premier, but I thought their old "veggie burger" was foul. Stale, and hard, and dry and tasteless. Yuk. Can't imagine what "quorn premier" tatesl like then.

Loki
March 29th, 2004, 03:05 PM
I kinda liked the old one. I think it tasted alright. The new one, on the other hand, is truly awful.

As for the fries, after the beef fat scandal in the USA, the fries have remained vegetarian in the UK.

epski
March 29th, 2004, 05:33 PM
Dude, McFalafel...

That's all I gotta say.

Loki
March 29th, 2004, 05:52 PM
How could i forget the mcfalafel. If I ever go to egypt, I'm gonna get myself some mcfalafel.

they should scrap the new veggie burger, and put mcfalafel in its place. Now that would make for one very happy Loki.

vheogl
March 29th, 2004, 06:19 PM
Werid Mc D's here have never offered a veggie burger until very recently, the whole of this area is under franchise and they tend to have totally different things to everywhere else, and i believe it's actually made of vegtables, but i've never tried it seeing as it contains mayo and probably cheese and their buns contain milk and they're Mc' D's and i refuse to give them my custom because they're baseically evil.

If i was you complain, they can't know whats wrong until the customer tells them. Or the other thing i advise is - don't eat there, find the nearest Veg resturant and force whoever you're eating with to go with you.

mouse
March 29th, 2004, 10:06 PM
*still laughing as a result of reading Loki's original post*

As a side note: Quorn isn't vegan is it?

*Star*Lass*
March 30th, 2004, 10:01 AM
Quorn contains dried egg i think.

When i ate meat i used to buy the spicey bean burger from Burger King, they were really nice. Have'nt had one since i turned veggie. They don't cook them in animal fat or anything do they?

Walter
March 30th, 2004, 03:28 PM
So they replaced it with a nonvegan item? Sounds McDonaldsish; and here I was thinking how evolved UK McDonalds must be if they've had a veggie burger since 1994 and in the US we still don't have one. :rolleyes:

Loki
March 30th, 2004, 07:54 PM
Mcdonalds old veggie burger wa svegan i think. I read on one vegetarian site that it was vegan if you got it w/o the mayo. being an ovo-lacto, I never really looked into it very far.

Quorn does contain egg whites. Quorn isn't bad if you have it right, but basically, they've put a big quorn patty in a bun with some mayo, salsa, lettuce and a tomato, and they're passing this off as a sandwich.

I think it's got 2.5g of fat in it, as opposed to somehting like 20g in the old veggie burger. Guess which one tasted better?

Come on, if you're gonna have a quorn mcsalad burger for the health nuts, could the vegetarians at least have their veggie mcfatfat back? yes, the new product is 95% fat free, but it's also 95% taste free! i'd love it if mcdonalds would ditch the new quorn burger, and replace it with the old one, or something which tastes good, or something which is palatable. Or if Mcdonalds really want vegetarians in their place, mcfalafel will really do.

oh well, i guess that I won't be going to mcdonalds anymore, and i guess that's a good thing, considering it's a bit un-veggie to visit mcd's!!! Heehee.

Anyway, I think that fast food and vegetarianism are kinda falling out again. i noticed that Pizza hut has changed the smallprint on it's veg-symbol thingy from "Suitable for vegetarians" to a more ambiguous "The recipes for these products do not include meat or fish." I might be chasing that one up, and seeing what the f**k has happened there.

The Hanged Man
March 31st, 2004, 06:19 AM
The strawberry milkshake which WAS veggie friendly now contains colouring that is animal based.

My best friend works at McDonalds and he can't shut up about the pros/cons of the place, so like it or not I get lots of 'insider' information such as - don't eat the ice, it looks yellowish by the end of the day :spew:

mosquito
March 31st, 2004, 06:51 AM
That's a damn shame since I love Quorn. I can't imagine a possible way to f*** it up, but there you go. Consequently we went through the McDonalds' drivethru today (it wasn't my idea. Bleh!) and I asked if they had a veggie burger. The drivethru girl said, "a ... what?" as if I were speaking Japanese. I said, screw it, and went to Subway.

Life2k
March 31st, 2004, 08:08 AM
Loki, I really think you need to send your comments to McD. Uk, US, the world.
Seriously.

The Hanged Man
March 31st, 2004, 08:26 AM
They used to have peices of card for suggestions that you could post in-store, but they've abolished that now :( They're not allowed to accept ideas, not even from the people who are keeping them in bussiness (for now).

Life2k
March 31st, 2004, 08:42 AM
Open minded of them, huh?

Loki
April 2nd, 2004, 11:28 AM
McDonalds don't have the comment cards anymore? I think that they were sick of Tinky-winky from teletubbyland telling them that their food is crap.

Now who would have done such a thing????

*Star*Lass*
April 2nd, 2004, 12:46 PM
I don't think they give a sh*t what we think, they know the majority of people will eat that crap.

Not long ago, i was in town and walked past macdonalds, and there were a bunch of people (must've been vegans and veggies) with big sculptures made out of macdonalds litter (cups, burger boxes etc.). They all had banners that said "MacTrash" and "MacSlurry". They were totally blocking the door to macdonalds and yelling insults at them. I thought it was brilliant! I think some people (omnis no doubt) were'nt to happy and started swearing at them, telling them to f**k off. I didn't though (even though i was an omni at the time), i felt like applauding them!

Loki
April 2nd, 2004, 10:03 PM
If I were protesting a McDonalds, i'd have big signs which say "Warning: this food is rubbish! Go to pizza hut instead."

And that would be my advice.

thebelovedtree
April 2nd, 2004, 10:17 PM
When i ate meat i used to buy the spicey bean burger from Burger King, they were really nice. Have'nt had one since i turned veggie. They don't cook them in animal fat or anything do they?

here they have the bk veggie, which is vegan, depending on the type of bun your burger king uses. Its rice, soy, and mushroom based. It isn't actually good, and they normally under cook it or burn it on the outside, but when i get depressed i crave them and will not stop craving them until i get one, i have no idea why?

Loki
April 3rd, 2004, 09:15 AM
I've heard that BK's bean burger isn't vegetarian. You might want to check it up though.

Raquelle
April 8th, 2004, 10:33 AM
I'm not a big McDonald's fan since becoming veggie but I have to agree with Loki that I used to like the old veggie burger. I'm now itching to try this new quorn burger.

Just thought I would let you know that Wimpey in the UK offers vegetarian burgers which are cooked in with the meat burgers!!! Why??? :confused: Definitely would never eat there.

And also I thought Pizza Hut use non-veggie cheese on their pizzas (well that is what I read).

The best thing to do if you get hungry is either go to a veggie/vegan restaurant or wait until you get home and make the thing yourself. :chef: I would rather starve than eat some of the c**p on offer these days. How do you know the product hasn't been cooked in animal fat etc? Even an innocent looking baked potato with beans might not be veggie (not all baked beans are veggie, look on the can....some brands have the "V" missing!).

At least if you make it yourself it will taste better and will probably be healthier.


Rachael

kpickell
April 8th, 2004, 11:52 AM
Pizza Hut only uses lactose-free cheese in a few of their restaurants in the midwest united states.

Quorn is probably easier to overcook so that might be why it doesn't turn out right at McDonalds. I really enjoy the BK Veggie at Burger King but every once a while I've gotten one that was very obviously overcooked and tough around the edges. Bah.

epski
April 9th, 2004, 07:19 AM
I had one a couple of nights ago that was downright burnt. I can't believe they'd look at that hockey puck and think it's appropriate to serve... *sigh*

I'm very burnt out on human beings today.

Loki
April 9th, 2004, 06:23 PM
I'll have to look up on the pizza hut thing. The "These dishes are suitable for vegetarians" thing has changed to a somewhat less satisfying "The recipes for these dishes do not include meat or fish."

Is nothing sacred?