I'm going to bed soon but I thought I'd get the discussion going so I can catch up at work tonight. :)

The guys who make the biggest deal about being the nice guy usually end up being the biggest jerks. They think that putting on a wimpy nice guy front at first then turning into an anal passive aggressive freak is being a nice guy. Yeah, yeah.. I'm exaggerating a bit. ;)

Why do women date jerks? Good question, indeed.

It depends on your definition of "jerk".

If you mean loud-mouthed, unpredictable, "I'll bet I can scare you"-type males. . .
One might say it is because the "jerk", um, has power, and the women in question want to be with powerful men.

Some females don't want to be around a sensitive, soft-speaking male, because these males aren't powerful to them, and perhaps come across as weak.

I'm going to bed soon but I thought I'd get the discussion going so can catch up at work tonight. :)
Are you calling my suitor a jerk??? :brood:

I'm sure the suitor is fine because I don't think you'd put up with any crap. :)

No what he is talking about is- men who mess around, cheat, fool you.

and women continue to stay with them and make things work.

Not just cheat. Although that's a big one. In general guys that just don't appreciate what they have because they know they can treat women like trash and then find another one the next night. And why women put up with it.

Well you can't always see whats going on

I'll ask Mrs. Tame and get back to you... :lol:

and then once again there is the emotional investment.... You don't want to see something you are trying hard for just walk out the door. So you try harder

I'll ask Mrs. Tame and get back to you... :lol:

*dies laughing*

(yes, it was that funny. . .to me, that is)

All I know is that if *I* can find happiness in a relationship, then anyone can find happiness in a relationship. But I can't, so we're all screwed.

All I know is that if *I* can find happiness in a relationship, then anyone can find happiness in a relationship. But I can't, so we're all screwed.

LOL

The better question is: Why are guys jerks?

And, Michael, maybe you are attracted to women who are attracted to jerks :)

Yes..... Why are men jerks to women??

I am not attracted to women who are attracted to jerks. Because women who are attracted to jerks make me bitter. And besides, if they're attracted to guys like that they probably wouldn't be attracted to me anyway.

Yes..... Why are men jerks to women??

Because women let them. Pay attention. :p

Yes..... Why are men jerks to women??

Why are women jerks to men? :)

we are not jerks to men... We put up with there jerk like actions acept them back and whatever

Michael- yes this behavior had to be inforced but that is no reason to continue it

We like to be slapped around :whip: :smitten:

But, Michael, much of it is subconscious :) You just may be attracted to the wrong type.
What are your expectations? Are they unrealistic?

Because women who are attracted to jerks make me bitter. .

Maybe that's why :P
Bitterness comes off. Can't you tell when someone is bitter, damnit!

we are not jerks to men... We put up with there jerk like actions acept them back and whatever

Yes, some females are jerks to men.

Some males put up with the horrible actions of their opposite sex, and then "acept them back and whatever".

i think its mostly due to a lack of confidence / self esteem / insecurities ...a 'this is what i always get, so this is what i am, so this is what i will always get mentality and it isn't necessarily a gender thing cuz my last neighbour was an abusive bully to his common-law boi-friend :(