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mountainvegan
11-04-03, 10:41 PM
I found this article in The Atlantic. Should be an interesting election next year.


Atlantic Unbound | September 24, 2003

Politics & Prose | by Jack Beatty

"A Miserable Failure"

Will Bush be re-elected? Only if voters wittingly ignore his long list of failures while in office
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With one phrase Dick Gephardt has defined the issue to be decided next November. Can a "miserable failure" of a president win re-election? Bush's victory would testify to a civic failure more dangerous to the American future than any policies implemented or continued during a second Bush term. A majority would have demonstrated that democratic accountability is finished. That you can fail in everything and still be re-elected president.

You can preside over the most catastrophic failure of intelligence and national defense in history. Can fire no one associated with this fatal chain of blunders and bureaucratic buck-passing. Can oppose an inquest into September 11 for more than a year until pressure from the relatives of those killed on that day becomes politically toxic. Can name Henry Kissinger, that mortician of truth, to head the independent commission you finally accede to. You can start an unnecessary war that kills hundreds of Americans and as many as 7,000 Iraqi civilians—adjusted for the difference in population, the equivalent of 80,000 Americans. Can occupy Iraq without a plan to restore traffic lights, much less order. Can make American soldiers targets in a war of attrition conducted by snipers, assassins, and planters of remote-control bombs—and taunt the murderers of our young men to "bring it on." Can spend hundreds of billions of dollars on nation building—and pass the bill to America's children. (Asked to consider rescinding your tax cut for the top one percent of taxpayers for one year in order to fund the $87 billion you requested from Congress to pay for the occupation of Iraq, your Vice President said no; that would slow growth.) You can lose more jobs than any other President since Hoover. You can cut cops and after-school programs and Pell Grants and housing allowances for the poor to give tax cuts to millionaires. You can wreck the nation's finances, running up the largest deficit in history. You can permit 17,000 power plants to increase their health-endangering pollution of the air. You can lower the prestige of the United States in every country of the world by your unilateral conduct of foreign policy and puerile "you're either with us or against us" rhetoric. Above all, you can lie the country into war and your lies can be exposed—and, if a majority prefers ignorance to civic responsibility, you can still be reelected.

Even Republicans must be capable of applying a cost-benefit analysis to this record of miserable failure. Their tax cuts on one side, the burden of Bush-begotten debt on their children on the other. And surely even Republicans breathe the air befouled by those power plants. I have it on good authority that the conservatives in the party do as well. Surely they must question the judgment of a President who proposes to turn Iraq into what James Fallows calls "the fifty-first state" in order to bring democracy to the Middle East—the kind of do-gooder fantasy conservatives have long ridiculed in liberals.

But the election won't be decided by Republicans and conservatives. Most will sacrifice independent judgment to ideology or party and vote for Bush. No, swing voters will pick the next President. They vote the man not the party, character not ideology. Many voted for Bush in 2000 because they liked him better than Al Gore—applying the standards of product acceptability to a job that entrusts its holder with the power to blow up the planet. Well, do they still "like" Bush? I fear many do. After all, he has spared them the embarrassment of having to discuss sex with their children. Swing voters like Bush's "image" as a strong leader, a CNN pundit claims. Are they incapable of looking behind that image and seeing the weak President who stayed away from the White House on September 11 because his Vice President said it was not safe for him to be there and whose PR people lied to cover up his failure of leadership? John F. Kennedy, as R. W. Apple wrote on the front page of The New York Times on September 12, remained in the White House throughout the Cuban missile crisis knowing that it would be hit in any nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union.

The Founders feared that the republic would succumb to corruption without republican citizenship—without citizens who could transcend privatism and hold elected officials to account, demanding probity and competence, and judging their performance against both the clamorous necessities of the time and the mute claims of posterity. They made property a criterion for voting because it secured a measure of economic independence. Property-less wage laborers, they feared, would vote as their employers instructed them to. The extension of democracy to those who could not rise to the responsibilities of republican freedom would corrupt the republic—hasten its decay into oligarchy or mob rule.

For all their worldliness the Founders were naïve to regard property as a shield of incorruptibility or the property-less as inherently corruptible. Their core insight, however, remains valid. A republic can be corrupted at the top and bottom, by leaders and led. The re-election of George W. Bush would signal that a kind of corruption had set in among the led. Our miserable failure as republican citizens would match his as President.

Peebs
11-04-03, 10:45 PM
Even Andy Rooney was down on Bush last Sunday on 60 Minutes (for those who watched it).

Bush screwed up.

ForestGlade34
11-04-03, 10:54 PM
Mind if I post this anti-Bush thing here along with yours?... I just found it on vegan village notice board....
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NO GM AMBUSH !!!

Bush is Coming!
Here's your chance to remind Blair not to give in to Bush and allow GM crop planting. Bare your bush to Bush
and spell out NO GM AMBUSH in London on 16th November. Details here: www.barewitness.org/bare4bush.html
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Don't worry the nude content(see pics) is all part of the protest and is not x-rated.

Tame
11-04-03, 11:27 PM
The re-election of George W. Bush would signal that a kind of corruption had set in among the led. Our miserable failure as republican citizens would match his as President.

The ignorant drivel aside (this ****nut blames 9-11 solely on Bush when the plans and inflitration by Al Queda began long before he was in office...riiiight), this comment burns my biscuits. So, if voters don't agree with this ****nut, then we are corrupt and failures? Riiiiiiiiiight.

'Tis a shame no one ever says something like this to my face. They would shortly find out that...my pimp hand is strong!

VealPrincess
11-04-03, 11:57 PM
um, aren't there already tons of genetically modified crops being planted, raised, harvested and than eaten in the U.S.?

or did i miss something up here in good ol' canada?

(sorry, this is sort of off topic)

mountainvegan
11-05-03, 12:01 AM
Hehe. I thought this article might p*ss you off Tame. :D

Although that is not why I posted it. I posted it because I agree that Bush has done a lousy job and deserves to be voted out next year. The article does have some specific hypercritical comments, but overall, it properly bring attention to some of Bush's major screw ups.

Tame
11-05-03, 02:26 AM
The only issue in that "article" that can be placed at the feet of Bush is the situation in Iraq, of which we still don't know the final outcome.

The groundwork for the power plant failures, 9-11, the economy, and the rets of the "points" in the "article" have roots that go well before 2001.

BTW, anyone look at the latest economic data? Economic growth in the past several quarters? Notice any trends?

Oh, and expect the employment numbers to improve nicely within the next 6 months. Bank on it.

mountainvegan
11-05-03, 01:53 PM
Bush's tax cut to fund the war (pass the buck to the furture) is a bit of an idiot move. That's what I like in a leader, someone who lowers revenues and raises expenses without an adequate surplus so that future administrations will have to figure out how to make up the difference. Totally irresponsible.

muppetcow
11-05-03, 02:12 PM
The groundwork for the power plant failures

I don't think the article is blaming Bush for power plant failures, but rather for removing environmental policy aimed at making power plants less pollutant. (Or did I mis-interpret the article? perfectly plausible). If I can find some info on the power plant pollution issue, I'll post links.

I agree with the article (not necessarily the tone in which it is presented which, IMO, is inflammatory to say the least) in that I think Bush has been a dismal president except for being critical of Bush for leaving the White House on 9/11. I think any head of state would have been wise to do the same thing and villifying Bush for that is ridiculous. (Egads! Did I just defend W? :eek: )

I think my uber-conservative dad said it best. When my grandma said "He's doing his best," my dad replied "Exactly, and that's the problem."

Allright, Tame--rip into me! :lol:

ETA: found a link about the power plant pollution issue http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A34334-2003Aug22&notFound=true

Tame
11-05-03, 02:41 PM
Alrighty...let the ripping begin.

If you actually read the whole article and compare the new rule to the old one, you can see the logic in changing the law.

First, it should be noted that emissions will not increase. The law only applies to pre-1970 facilities which are only subject to applying new control technology when making upgrades. What constituted enough of an upgrade to require installing new pollution controls was not clear in the original law. The new regulation sets a benchmark that applies across the board.

From the article:
"Under the new rule, older plants could avoid installing pollution controls when they replace equipment -- even if the upgrade increases pollution -- provided the cost does not exceed 20 percent of the cost of replacing a plant's essential production equipment, and the new parts are the "functional equivalent" of the worn-out equipment.


For example, if a coal-fired power plant replaces a boiler at a cost that is less than 20 percent of the combined replacement cost of the boiler, turbine, generator and other equipment, the company would not have to install devices to control the additional pollution. However, the regulation would not relieve plants of continuing to meet air pollution targets set in 1990 for reducing levels of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide and fine particles that pose public health problems. "

Keeping that statement in mind, go back and read the article from the beginning. No power plants will be polluting more than before, and if the facility upgrades past a certain level, they are still subject to installing new pollutant controls. The 1990 law, which has had a dramatic effect on emission reduction, has not been touched.

Keep in mind that there is a current need for additional power on several major grids. All this law does is draw set a clear requirement at which level the pollution upgrades must be made, and allows minor upgrades be made which will increase power production without raising pollution levels.

There is this belief among environmentalists that any change in the law which benefits the industry hurts the environment by default, and this is simply not true.

muppetcow
11-05-03, 03:25 PM
I wasn't saying that I was for or against the power plant regulations--I haven't researched enough to make an informed decision--but that I thought the article was referring to that rather than the power outages.

I was expecting you to rip into me for saying that W sucks as president and that I generally agree with the article. **sigh** Guess I'll have to do better than that to incur the wrath of Tame, huh?