I want to ask you for some help. I found this web site and it is full of animal abusers and haters. They are doing everything they can to hurt us when in comes to our agenda. These people must be stopped NOW. If you go to this link you will see what I am talking about:
http://www.theasba.com/MessageForums/index.php

Please write to the site owner's letting them know how displeased you are along with helping me remove them from the www permanently. Lets join together and bug them enough to rid them forever,
Thank you,
Holly

There are a lot more where that came from. It's upsetting to read stuff like that. But on the positive side, there are lots of people out there who are far more likely to come around to veg*nism, AR or animal welfare. These are the people to communicate with.

Believe me, there are plenty more.

Sure, they've got a right to free speech, and I think they should be entitled to it. Of course, that doesn't mean I disagree with them. There's plenty of anti-animal rights people on the internet, and they're all the types of people who say vegetarianism is Ok if you do it for health reasons, but for goodness sake, do not develop an independent thought and do it because you like animals! That's the main thing which annoys me. many of them just can't seem to tolerate vegetarianism, even if it is just a regular vegetarian who isn't a PETA-freak. And a lot of them are childish, using names like "PETArd" and "PETAphile" as derogatory terms to describe vegetarians (Including those who don't support PETA.)

It just seems that for every extreme movement, there's always another one to counter it. As Isaac Newton (or some other bloke) once said "Every force has an equal and opposite reaction") For every PETA, you have groups like the CCF or whatever.

That's true. The internet allows anyone with any kind of idea to set up a website, no matter how hateful or abusive the site may be.
But the reality is, the anti-animal people are as extreme as the "radicals" they claim to fight. I've encountered a few of them on message boards, and they have invariably been verbally abusive. They do not want to have normal discussions. They just want to flame and troll.
The good news is that these people do not represent the mainstream public. Most people do have at least some ethics about animal treatment, and do not abuse or kill animals and do not want to see them abused. Most people value their pets, and support laws against animal cruelty. While we are evolving slowly, I do believe more people are becoming sensitive about animals.

I must say, that I as a Hunter have every right to protect my food source, sport and a way of life. I am here in the land of oposite for me on many things, and I am learning more about this side of the table, adn I see and read posts every that are extremly offensive reguarding my helathy life style. I have come to a better understanding however of what it means to try to see life though the eyes of some one whom you will opose to your last breath.
I respect the decisions of you folks to live your life style, I disagree with the tactics that many goups associated with AR use.
I further believe that total lack of economic impact the AR movement has will ever be enough to over come H.F.T etc.... legal rights to live our lives the way we do. I comend you all for your beliefes in this matter, I just do not see a end to hunting etc... in the usa in my life time or that of my children...let alone farming and ranching.
I will say you are fighting your fight, and that speaks volumes about character.

Are you kidding me?

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I mean, How many people visit VB? How many lurk?
The numbers show it all.

american, doing what I do, I simply can not agree with you, but, seeing as we have been down that road before, lets leave it at that.

I must say, that I as a Hunter have every right to protect my food source, sport and a way of life.

Can some one explain this to me? Are hunters a "higher" from of life? Doesn't this apply to veg*ns?


"I must say, that I as a Vegan have every right to protect my food source, sport and a way of life"

I guess you'll see me standing in front of the health food store with a loaded assault rifle :D

There's no point. It only encourages them and frustrates us. Besides, they're free to say what they want.

I don't want them coming here and arguing with us so I'm not going to do that to them.

To the Paca Guy it is good that is a small global comunity here on veg board, many of the hunt site I visit like
http://www.tnugent.com/
have thousands of members, and more than i would care to count online at any given moment. many are discusing issues important to us, like the opening of dove seasons in every state, CCW, geting kids involved, cooking, healthy living the importance of the Constituions garuntee to keep and bare arms and so on, we even have heaps at these sites for folks.
I am placing in my ignor list, because you dont debate, nor know how, you seek only heated arguments that get folks no where.
I could be an ass and post this web site at the nug board, and say come on look what these folks are up to we need to stop them from fighting our right to HFT.

That would lead to tons of a-holes coming here and ruining this board, a-holes who would maliciously attack the server, and individuals....and I just do not support that kind of behavior/illegeal behavior that this/that kind of post stimulates.
So do you we now I take offense at this thread, as it encourages discontent not only here but eles where. this is why Moderator's should engage a rule against the posting of dissimilar vlaued websites and delete posts like this and or the web site address. It is an unnessary call to arms. BAD and just WRONG

this is why Moderator's should engage a rule against the posting of dissimilar vlaued websites and delete posts like this and or the web site address.

You do know that you just violated your own rule, right?

To American,

Sorry I don't know what drives you to kill.

But right to free speech or not, killing any other living thing for sport is the most evil and despicable act any creature (especially ones with individual thought) can ingage in. You are actually getting joy from the demise of another living creature. How is this right

And then the hole issue of it being called a sport. Last time I checked sport is generally two sides competing for a goal (some times different) each have almost equal opertunity to gain this goal. Now with regards to Hunting especially Fox Hunting, where is the balance. X amount of hounds and horse men against 1 Fox. How threating is a Fox!!! And then hunting animals with rifles and such, whats a deer going to do, pull out an AK??

I'm a veggy and will always be, I don't barite Omnivores to stop eating meat, but I will badger and argue with anyone who enjoys actually killing others to my grave.

um.....er......There are already several threads on hunting.

I hate hunting (http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=3923&highlight=hunting)


confusing about hunting (http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=3069&highlight=hunting)

Take your pick, but do not continue hunting discussions here.

Thank you all.

Considering this is a support forum, lets not turn this into a debate about hunting. That means, no pro-hunting statements. I don't think the originator of this thread wanted this in the compost heap or he/she would have started it there.

Considering this is a support forum, lets not turn this into a debate about hunting. That means, no pro-hunting statements. I don't think the originator of this thread wanted this in the compost heap or he/she would have started it there.

Well said....
Debate portends argument :(
Support extends support!!! :)

Well said 1vegan :D

Nice point Michael. :up:

To american, (from what I could understand.)
All I said was we had already gone over the subject and need not do it again. But who you put on your ignore list is your own choice, and that is all I have to say on the matter or to you.

Drengi, were on in the same on this matter. :yes: