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Kreeli
10-24-03, 04:11 PM
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031023/dcthv004_1.html

Obesity Statistics Seriously Flawed
Thursday October 23, 4:45 pm ET
Health Care Costs Inflated, 300,000 Deaths Based on Data That Is 'Limited, Fragmented and Often Ambiguous'


WASHINGTON, Oct. 23 /PRNewswire/ -- While obesity is a genuine national problem today, special interests and trial lawyers have promoted hysteria about the issue in order to advance their own political and financial interests. These efforts include frequent citation of inflated health care costs and obesity-related deaths, according to testimony today by The Center for Consumer Freedom at a public hearing of the Federal Drug Administration's (FDA) Obesity Working Group.
The three most commonly-cited statistics associated with the obesity epidemic are 1) that obesity causes 300,000 American deaths per year; 2) that 61 percent of Americans are overweight or obese; and 3) that the economic cost of American obesity is $117 billion a year. The Federal Register notice of today's FDA hearing cited two of these three numbers. All three are seriously flawed.

* 300,000 U.S. deaths are attributable to excess weight. The truth is
that "the data linking overweight and death ... are limited, fragmented
and often ambiguous." That's from an editorial published by the
respected New England Journal of Medicine in January 1998, questioning
the increasingly frantic rhetoric about obesity as a public health
problem.

* Obesity costs Americans $117 billion per year. The original source of
this claim was a study published in the March 1998 issue of the journal
Obesity Research, whose authors themselves admit: "We are still
uncertain about the actual amount of health utilization associated with
overweight and obesity," explaining that "height and weight are not
included in many of the primary data sources." Furthermore, the authors
defined obesity incorrectly, writing: "The current estimate of the cost
of obesity defines obesity as a BMI >/=29." Obesity is actually
defined as a BMI >/=30. Thus the Obesity Research study erroneously
included the economic cost of individuals with a BMI between 29 and 30.
That's more than ten million Americans.

* 61 percent of Americans are overweight or obese. The definition of
overweight used by the U.S. government was arbitrarily changed in 1998,
following political pressure brought by the World Health Organization.
The definition that we abandoned in 1998 had the virtue of
distinguishing between men and women -- something our current definition
does not do. And the 1998 redefinition re-classified 39 million
Americans as "overweight." They literally went to sleep one night at a
government-approved weight, and woke up "overweight."


Testimony from The Center for Consumer Freedom at today's hearing can be found at www.ConsumerFreedom.com.

The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition supported by restaurants, food companies, and consumers working together to promote personal responsibility and protect consumer choices.

MsRuthieB
10-24-03, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the information. Very interesting. I've often wondered who decided/decides what is overweight and what data is used to set that bar. Seems arbitrary to me.

Michael
10-24-03, 05:34 PM
"The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition supported by restaurants, food companies, and consumers working together to promote personal responsibility and protect consumer choices." They have a vested interest in the obesity "epidemic" (and the publicity it receives) disappearing along with the stigma that is often attached to obesity.

In fact they are really against animal welfare issues. Check out this page... http://www.consumerfreedom.com/activistcash/

They even trash talk Farm Sanctuary! :(

Kreeli
10-24-03, 05:49 PM
obesity is certainly a polarized issue and you would be hardpressed to find an unbiased source of information, but i do have to point out that the CFC was literally the messenger in this instance, not the source of the original information. they simply brought information to the table from other sources.

although i support a change to an animal-free diet in all people, i don't neccessarily support the fanatic means that many of the AR/Veg groups use to try and convince people to make the change.

Kreeli
10-24-03, 06:05 PM
also, i would like to point out, that Veg/AR groups are often the worst offenders when it comes to propogating myths and lies about fat and fat people.

Tame
10-24-03, 10:06 PM
Ah, I remember that day in 1998. I was staying in a Hilton in Fort Lauderdale. I went to bed at what was around my "ideal" weight, but I woke up obese. Must have been one hell of a dinner the night before!
(At the time, I was 6'2", about 195 lbs.)

Kreeli
10-24-03, 10:16 PM
tame, you're 6'2"???

...sigh...

:trick:

peace
10-24-03, 10:33 PM
This group was created with a grant from Philip Morris. Its president is a lobbyist for the tobacco, food, and alcohol industries.
They are opposed to salary increases for restaurant workers, indoor smoking regulations, efforts to get unhealthy foods out of school vending machines, increased blood alcohol limits for drivers, attempts to get nutrition information on menus, anti-biotech foods activities and especially, animal protection and the promotion of vegetarian eating.
This group has taken out ads attacking animal advocates and environmentalists, distributed newspaper op-eds trying to paint all animal advocates as terrorists, and even sued to try to prevent a regulation against gestation crates for female pigs.
Just recently, Tyson gave CCF a large donation to counter criticism of factory poultry farming.
Find more information here....http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/2001Q1/berman1.html

Tame
10-24-03, 11:10 PM
tame, you're 6'2"???

...sigh...

:trick:

I was. Since my discs started collapsing, I seriously think I have lost about 1/2".

:(

MsRuthieB
10-25-03, 03:00 AM
Wow. 1/2 inch is quite a bit. My b/f is 6 ft 2. Tall men a so huggable.

Frost
10-26-03, 01:25 PM
"also, i would like to point out, that Veg/AR groups are often the worst offenders when it comes to propogating myths and lies about fat and fat people."

Could you please list some examples...with references of course.

Michael
10-26-03, 01:38 PM
Hehe, I think that's common knowledge. PETA's probably the worst.

Frost
10-27-03, 04:11 PM
If its common knowldedge then wouldnt you please list some examples for me.

Michael
10-27-03, 04:28 PM
http://www.goveg.com/feat/obese.html
http://www.milksucks.com/fat.html (also see Chubby Charlie off to the right)

Just go to PETA and search on "obesity" you'll find plenty of sources.

MsRuthieB
10-27-03, 04:35 PM
Yep. I believe there's a thread currently active here on VB speaking of Peta stating that if you'll get skinny if you go vegetarian. Matter of fact here it is (http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=11334&page=1&pp=25&highlight=PETA). There's links within that thread too.

Kreeli
10-27-03, 04:40 PM
frost, it is virtually impossible to find veg' resource material that doesn't slag on fat people, which totally alienates all the fat veg*ns and sets up people who decide to go veg' for weight loss, and who don't lose signifigant amounts of weight, for failure and disillusionment. when the veg/ar community accepts that fat people can and are a part of the movement to change the world's use of animals, they will find a new fan in me.