Evolution or Creationism?

[Werewolf Girl]

I'm just wondering what the percentage of people either is on VB, and I thought it might start an interesting discussion too.

Also, if you use Facebook vote in this poll, it's almost a tie!

http://apps.facebook.com/livingsocial/micro/polls/111022/results?auth_token=24b241f1ec015a67f044170800652f0 a

[Skylark]

I can save us all a lot of trouble and tell you right now how this thread will go. :lol:

[Beancounter]

I am predicting that it will be in the range of 95% + for evolution.

[Werewolf Girl]

I am predicting that it will be in the range of 95% + for evolution.

That would have been my prediction too until I saw it was almost a tie on Facebook, now I'm not so sure... :dizzy:

[Skylark]

That would have been my prediction too until I saw it was almost a tie on Facebook, now I'm not so sure... :dizzy:

There's a much broader spectrum of people on Facebook than on VB.

[ReaganNC]

I did not vote because I do not think the two are mutually exclusive. As a Christian, I believe in creationism, but as a scientist, I have a firm grasp of evolution and believe it can and has brought about changes in the creation over time.

[Beancounter]

I did not vote because I do not think the two are mutually exclusive. As a Christian, I believe in creationism, but as a scientist, I have a firm grasp of evolution and believe it can and has brought about changes in the creation over time.

Forgive my ignorance here...

But don't creationist believe that "modern" humans were put on earth 6,000 years ago (that is no cro-mangnum, no homo nethanderthalus, no "lucy".) Evolution need not apply...

[Beancounter]

There's a much broader spectrum of people on Facebook than on VB.

so, just what are you trying to say.... :)

[Skylark]

so, just what are you trying to say.... :)

Even most of the Christians on VB wouldn't insist on a 7-day, 6,000-years-ago literal Creation as described by most Creationists. Facebook is an entirely different animal. One need not have an interest in anything other than talking to other people to be on there.

[LabileLotus]

Even most of the Christians on VB wouldn't insist on a 7-day, 6,000-years-ago literal Creation as described by most Creationists.
:yes:

[ReaganNC]

Forgive my ignorance here...

But don't creationist believe that "modern" humans were put on earth 6,000 years ago (that is no cro-mangnum, no homo nethanderthalus, no "lucy".) Evolution need not apply...


Even most of the Christians on VB wouldn't insist on a 7-day, 6,000-years-ago literal Creation as described by most Creationists. Facebook is an entirely different animal. One need not have an interest in anything other than talking to other people to be on there.

What Skylark said. I'm not a Christian who takes the literal interpretation of 6000 years. There are some who are very literal who believe only in creationism within the last 6000 years. Christians, like any other group, are pretty diverse.

[Vegmedic]

I did not vote because I do not think the two are mutually exclusive. As a Christian, I believe in creationism, but as a scientist, I have a firm grasp of evolution and believe it can and has brought about changes in the creation over time.

As you are a teacher who appears to support both I wonder what is your position on what should be taught in the science classrooms?

Evolution (y/n)?
Intelligent Design (y/n)?
Creationsim (y/n)?

[ReaganNC]

As you are a teacher who appears to support both I wonder what is your position on what should be taught in the science classrooms?

Evolution (y/n)?
Intelligent Design (y/n)?
Creationsim (y/n)?

I believe only evolution belongs in the classroom because it is the only one that can be put to any kind of scientific standards and tests. The other two rely strictly on faith which has no business being discussed in a public, science classroom, IMHO.

[Vegmedic]

Thanks RNC. Well put.

[cheekywhiskers]

I accept evolution as there is tons of evidence for it and none against (that stands up to scientific tests that is).

I'm currently reading my bible to try to understand where creationists are coming from. I understand how they get the timeline (Adam was x years old when Seth was born and lived another z years, etc), but there is just so much contradiction to beleive it as fact. The first chapter is the seven days with humans created on the sixth day, but the second chapter has Adam created before the plants and animals and Eve. Then with Cain there is a mention of others that might kill him, where did they come from? (Gn 4:14-15)

[veggiemeggie]

Evolution. This forum is going to be skewed towards evolution, probably.

Also, I personally believe that creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive concepts, but people will jump through all kinds of mental hoops to believe in discordant things.

[Kyo]

There is a wide range of beliefs in Christianity. I think that even the Catholic Church officially accepts evolution. Rejecting evolution is more of a Christian fundamentalist thing.

I voted for evolution because I believe in it. And I don't believe that there is a creator. I'm partial to the Buddhist idea that everything in the world is instantly born and destroyed every moment of time. You might say that instead of a single creation there is continual creation and destruction every moment of time. There are no gods making this happen but it's the nature of the world.

[Blobbenstein]

God is reality; evolution is part of reality.



eta: and then of course, there are the white mice.

[agee309]

I'm also split on this poll due to my religion. The way I justify my belief in evolution is a model of God-led evolution where God could forseen the way in which humans would need to adapt for survival and gave us the ability to adapt independently. I do not, however, believe that we evolved from a completely different species (ie. fish to monkeys to homo-sapiens).

[Blobbenstein]

wouldn't God just get bored making everything himself?

wouldn't he rather let things develop in their own, wild way.
Far more interesting, I would have thought.

[Sevenseas]

The world is so perfect and organized, like an intricate clockwork, that it's impossible that it would have been just causally determined by previous events. That would be my view if Will & Grace hadn't been created.

[Skylark]

The world is so perfect and organized, like an intricate clockwork, that it's impossible that it would have been just causally determined by previous events. That would be my view if Will & Grace hadn't been created.

But you still admit Will & Grace was created. ;) :lol:

[Sevenseas]

More precise would have been "spastically vomited in the darkest depths of an abyss".

[mlp]

Evolution. This forum is going to be skewed towards evolution, probably.

Also, I personally believe that creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive concepts, but people will jump through all kinds of mental hoops to believe in discordant things.

In the church in which I grew up, the explanation was that the universe was no less a miracle of God's creation by virtue of the fact that he took millions of years and used evolution as a tool. The six day story was a parable used to make the story understandable to the simpler understanding of ancient man.

[Andromache]

I accept evolution because it is a scientific fact. At this stage there is more than enough evidence to remove any reasonable doubt.